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3 hours ago
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
https://x.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1773383018284998746?s=20
Fedotov is PHI holy ****?!
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Site Discussion
Mar. 20 at 6:11 p.m.
Thread:
Suggestions Megathread
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>2024 Mock draft ETA?</div></div>
looks like never
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Site Discussion
Mar. 14 at 10:07 p.m.
Thread:
Suggestions Megathread
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR</b></div><div>when are we getting 2024 Mock Draft feature?
last year we got it in Febuary IIRC</div></div>
??
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 12 at 12:02 p.m.
Thread:
Post Deadline Time to Get Weird
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Rumors are now Sabres were talking Noah Cates not Laughton</div></div>
rumors where?
you maybe right, however on the Flyers side seen anyone reputable mention a thing about Cates. Torts also loves him.
Forum:
Mock-Draft
Mar. 12 at 11:56 a.m.
Thread:
2024 Mock Draft
Adam Jiricek to the Flyers would feed families
Good work on the mock.
Only gripe is IDK if I can see Greentree going that high, but that might be a personal evaluation of him clouding my vision
I'd also cry if PIT got Buium
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Site Discussion
Mar. 11 at 11:53 p.m.
Thread:
Suggestions Megathread
when are we getting 2024 Mock Draft feature?
last year we got it in Febuary IIRC
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NHL
Mar. 10 at 9:24 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_Habs_fan</b></div><div>Not really, Torts got ejected, Torts should’ve just walked off there and then instead of saying F you, I’m not leaving, that was basically a guarantee Torts was gonna get a big fine. With what he did, I guess a suspension makes sense, it also tells other coaches not to do that</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div>Not sure what you expect. You can't just tell the ref to effoff and refuse to serve a penalty.
You can throw a fit on the way out, damage is done at that point, but you still have to leave.</div></div>
He shouldn't have been ejected in the first place. The refs made two terrible calls within 10 seconds of each (attard tripping call & Hathaway 10 Min misconduct for a shove). Torts said the first one was a dive but he didn't argue it too much, the 2nd one upset him so he made sure they knew but he really hadn't done anything out of the normal of coaches after bad calls. Then they wrongfully ejected him, so he told them to eff-off and flipped out.
If refs do their job, instead of abruptly ejecting torts because he called out a call. Torts doesn't flip out.
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NHL
Mar. 10 at 6:50 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
nhl is a joke... torts suspended 2 games, 50K?!!?! fine
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NHL
Mar. 9 at 4:12 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>As said before if we went by your guidelines Flyers would not be TDL winners. They got a (probs late) 1st for walker at the cost of a 4m capdump whose got another year left. Thats not really selling high as they sacrificed to get a low 1st which is basically equivalent to a high 2nd anyways. Bought a 3.25m #7 Dman when they had so many many Dman already. And traded borderline for borderline player. That dont scream win
That like TOR, NYR and others screams middle of the ground. There's no need to always have roster turnover at the TDL nor go after the big flashy toy to win it all. Blues and VGK won cups with a single trade at the TDL (Barbashev and Zotto). Meanwhile last year BOS went all in and lost in 7 despite adding Orlov, Hathaway and Bertuzzi
I the end as mentioned earlier everyone entitled to an opinion even if when using the guidelines be incorrect</div></div>
I guess i'm just kinda confused on what you think my guidlines are? I'd expect a team with stars to go out and help their stars before there stars are 35 and cupless. Probably because I watched Hextall waste the primes of Giroux and Voracek's careers.
I'd expect a team without stars, and has overperformed all year (Flyers), too trade guys who aren't gonna be important in 3 years, having a career year, and are valued higher than they've ever been before.
1. Walkers aggregate value was likely around a mid 2nd in this deal. Before the year he was a throw in a trade likely neutral valued by the GM's. They took back Johanson for purpose of making Colorado willing to part with a first. (which is smart) 2nd>nothing
2. They then bought cheap players Gurianov and EJ, because the team is overperforming and deserves some sort of help for a playoff push especially with injuries on backend to Seeler/Drysdale/Risto. It wouldn't make sense if they splurged big assets on a Guentzel or a Hertl, they aren't ready for that. They don't have the star talent Carolina, Vegas, Leafs, Or Rags have.
Not to say who they acquired is great, however they spent a 4th + a guy who couldn't make the team out of camp for players that provide more value to them then what they sent out.
3. With the 1st acquired, and not committing a lot of cap space to player long term, they're now in a lot better position to add a young core player via the draft or trade -- someone who could make an impact during the Michkov era.
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NHL
Mar. 9 at 3:09 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Yea there be issues with this list.
Based on your preference PHI should also be in the loser category with Leafs and Rangers
But everyone titled to an opinion</div></div>
How? The Flyers are at a complete different stage of those teams?
We aren't a contender, We're a team that's overperforming because of a coach that preaches hard work and dedication.
Selling High on Walker got us a first round pick, and we avoided the diasaster of his next contract ask, after that we added low cost additions like a EJ and Gurianov to reward the tean for their play and not take ourselves out of the playoffs.
The Flyers have been very clear, that any success they have is just a bonus, the goal is still rebuild and put the best out there for Michkov. And by selling off Walker they're backing it up.
Toronto and New York have Legit Stars and Super Stars. They should be going balls to the wall every year in order to win a championship.
Not being agressive to get good players to help Matthews, Marner, Nylander/Fox, Shesterkin, Panarin is why they'll be bounced early. Cause other teams got better, they didn't, and the prime years of their star talents careers continue to be wasted.
Leafs and rags left a lot to be desired and wasted assets on mid players just for the sake of saying they "tried". Go big or go home, and they decided they want to go home, When it's time to go big.
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 9 at 9:52 a.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsFanForSomeReason</b></div><div>Yep. Very disappointing. Didn't have much hope that we could put together a roster that I think has an actual shot this year, so I understand not aiming high on rentals, but they should've taken a more "present and future" approach rather than wasting our limited assets on bottom of the lineup rentals.
Disagree on the Sharks though. Hertl for David Edstrom and like a 35-45 pick improvement, plus throwing another 3rd back their way AND retaining on Hertl... that was brutal for them, imo.</div></div>
The 35-45 pick improvement is a lot. Most 3rd round picks don't do anything after Juniors. You have a lot better chance of drafting an NHLer with any 1st rounder.
They had to retain, I can't see any team taking on Hertl for 8m for 6 years. He's a 2C on a contender, and that even pricy for a 2C, in a few year what is he? Is 34 year old Hertl still a legit 2C? Cause 8m is a lot to have on your 3rd line.
If there was a better deal available, San Jose would've taken it. They had to sell before his value plummets, and he's another Couture/vlasic -- expensive player, hard to move, little value --.
Do you see San Jose being able to contend any time soon with Hertl? Cause I don't whatsoever. Wilson left them in a spot where they had to rebuild it from ground up.
Hertl wasn't gonna advance their rebuild in anyway, The 1st and Edstrom do.
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 9 at 9:27 a.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
Trade Deadline Winners And Losers:
Winners:
Vegas - Traded for everyone lol,
Carolina - Got best player available without giving up premium assets, got a reclamtion project in Kuzy who might revive his career
Colorado - Solified their top 6 with Mitts, and added a solid defenseman in Walker, who plays their style and is probably a better fit than Byram for their playoff run for this year.
Philly - Stuck to the rebuild plan sold high on Walker and added another first. Gurianov was a sneaky add, fast and huge, could be a nice little project for Torts. EJ is a Vet, Flyers needed bodies on D with Seeler, Drysdale, Ristolainen injured. York being banged up and Walker traded. EJ is a body with a lot of experience should be a good fit for the room.
San Jose - They stuck to their rebuild, When Grier got there that team needed a tear down with the lack of prospects/picks, current depth, and age of the stars. And Grier has done that. This was the most amount of value he was gonna ever get for Hertl who wouldn't have played in a meaningful game with San Jose again anyway. He got 2 firsts, They have a good chance at Celebrini, a ton of cap space now. Also got good value on Duclair.
Losers:
Leafs - Didn't aim high enough, waste of a deadline. Another year wasted of Matthews and Marners career
Vancouver - Didn't do anything, Lindholm ehh. Lost out on Guentzel
Rags - Acuired mid players paid high prices
Calgary - Lost every trade 60-40
Dallas - Didn't do enough, still have Hakapaa and Suter on their top 6 d
Boston - Overpaid for Peeke who doesn't even play full time for CBJ, Ullmark deal fell through.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 8 at 6:42 p.m.
Thread:
(SJS/VGK) - Hertl, 2025 3rd (SJS), 2027 3rd (SJS) for Edstrom, 2025 1st (VGK)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>goodfella</b></div><div>They gave up two 3rds though and are retaining for 6 years. They said to themselves "Lets just move up 60 picks once and throw away a pick in the 3rd, but also retain for 6 years. We'd like to pay to see this guy play against us. Preferably a division rival."
We need cap to hit the floor now.
So what are we going to do? Go overpay people. Add more overpaid contracts which is the "problem" with Hertl's apparently. Except it wasn't.
Also, the Sharks have enough 3rd and 4th guys. We don't have a top center. Which is what we just lost.
It's a joke. The EK trade is a joke. The Meier one was. The Burns one was. He loses. He loses trades. Grier sucks.</div></div>
understand the frustration, but trust the process. This was a neccesary move.
San Jose had no future with those guys on the roster. Wilson left them ****ed for a while, gave out too much money and dashed and forgot to supplement the top talent with depth.
The key to winning in the NHL is having everything going at once, stars, middle lineup, goalies. Edstrom should be a peice for the middle. And your now in a better position to get stars.
It may take a while, but San Jose had the most unattractive opening in the league when Grier was hired. It should take a while
San Jose could be getting the 12th Overall pick from EK trade who could be a good player if chosen and developed right. Probably a top 3 pick with your own pick. I hope you guys get Celebrini. That's a great start.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 8 at 6:17 p.m.
Thread:
(SJS/VGK) - Hertl, 2025 3rd (SJS), 2027 3rd (SJS) for Edstrom, 2025 1st (VGK)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>goodfella</b></div><div>Edstrom is 3rd line garbage.</div></div>
Most 1st rounds picks become only 3rd liners. Not a bad thing. If Edstrom can become an everyday NHLer (like a Laughton) that's a good result for him and San Jose... I should note he's even improved in his DY+1.
You have to acknowledge, Hertl's value was never going to be much higher than this. They essentially got 2 firsts for someone of no value to their rebuild.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 8 at 5:19 p.m.
Thread:
(SJS/VGK) - Hertl, 2025 3rd (SJS), 2027 3rd (SJS) for Edstrom, 2025 1st (VGK)
Gonna be in minority here I think but San Jose did well.
Edstrom is a good prospect and has raised his stock since his DY, 1st is a good asset. Hertl had no worth to San Jose. They were so far ****ed by Doug WIlson, that Hertl had no chance of playoff games with San Jose for the duration of his contract the moment he signed it. Therefore he was no worth to San Jose. The only bad part of it is the retention slot being burned up. However this was the most he was ever gonna get for Hertl most likely.
Just another move that puts San Jose ahead in their rebuild.
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 8 at 4:19 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
I've seen fans trip about it but I'm gonna say it.
San Jose did really well in Hertl deal. Say what you want but I think Grier's done a nice job there. There is few teams I geniuinly think a tear down is neccesary and San Jose is one of them. They had no prospects and long expensive contracts on guys pushing 30 when Grier got there. He's slowly but surely rebuilding a base there, it's gonna take a while but considering all those contracts player were overpaid he's done fairly well imo.
He's came away with Edstrom, 1st, and likely a pick around 12th overall for guys who had no value to them anymore. They had no future of possibly competing with those guys on the roster. Also clearing about 17m in long term cap space.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 8 at 3:56 p.m.
Thread:
(PHI/NSH) - Allison for Gurianov
Sneaky deal. Allison wasn't gonna be anything in philly. Gurianov feels like the type of player Torts would like to fix. He's got intriguing skills size + speed.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 8 at 3:55 p.m.
Thread:
(BUF/PHI) - Johnson for 2024 4th (PHI)
Flyers need a body, Seeler, Drysdale both hurt. York came out of 2 games recently (then came back) prob battling something. And Walker got traded for a 1st. Fine deal. Good for Buffalo to get something for someone who was less than good for them.
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 7 at 7:57 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>If PHI ret 50% I could see some team eye him for their 4th line
But with how much Avs fans complained on him idk maybe not</div></div>
I hope not, I rather buy him out. I don't think anyone would be interested, but I don't think burning the last retention slot for 1.25 years is worth tops like a 6th rounder
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 6 at 5:13 p.m.
Thread:
(COL/PHI) - Johansen, 2025 1st (COL) for Walker, 2026 5th (PHI)
I like this deal for both teams. Very happy Philly finally sold.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 6 at 5:12 p.m.
Thread:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
Nice piece of buisness for the Av's here there 2 deals have them as my cup favorite now.
Really love Mitts.
I'll wait and see for Buffalo, Byrams very talented but sort of a risk.
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 6 at 4:36 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
Danny Briere is Him
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 5 at 8:47 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Be a pretty dumb move as they have 0 need for RW anymore
Once Stone comes back
Marchessault, Stone, Mantha, Kolesar be the RW
LW rn is
Barbashev, Dorofeyev, Cotter, Amadio, Howden, Carrier
They need a LW to be on the 2nd or top pair and thats Guentzel. Also can easily extend if they let Marchessault walk</div></div>
I'm sure acquisition price is a factor. And Idk if they want to pay Guentzel the money he likely wants even if they can afford it. They might justify the cost, if they felt extending him would be a good move.
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 5 at 8:37 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Funny how if u read people's comments with the Mantha trade they think VGK is done and wont get Guentzel
Do they not realize they got 4.4m in cap space. Pitts gonna ret so 3m lul</div></div>
Believe Lebrun said they're out on Guentzel, however they're pushing for Tarasenko
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 2 at 8:14 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>edeangel84</b></div><div>Future SJ Shark? They have nothing to lose.</div></div>
I can't anyone claiming tbh. Maybe Nashville because of Trotz connection and alledged they inquired in the Offseason but idk. Sad tbh.
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