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Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 3:10 p.m.

Thread: Rebuilt it

You can have Holl and Fabbri for free.

Otherwise we'll keep Fabbri and buyout Holl.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 3:07 p.m.

Thread: Raymond and Seider extensions

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SharkTank</b></div><div>

Would you still rather have Timmy Stutzle, Red Wings fans? 😉</div></div>

That's a good question. Would you rather have a PPG C or a PPG wing?

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 2:31 p.m.

Thread: Raymond and Seider extensions

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SharkTank</b></div><div>I have Seider at 8 years/8.7 mil AAV and Raymond at 8 years/7.5 mil AAV.</div></div>

We can only hope that Raymond signs for just 7.5M. :tearsofjoy

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 9 at 8:03 p.m.

Thread: Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>Rakell has like 4 more years though doesn't he</div></div>

Misread the Rakell contract. Yeah, Wings should pass.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 9 at 5:32 p.m.

Thread: Offseason

I don't hate that Wings trade. I don't necessarily like it but 1 year of Rakell v. 3 more of Holl? I could be down with that.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 5 at 11:03 a.m.

Thread: Todays agm 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KINGS67</b></div><div>You don’t pay attention much. Makes sense since you probably don’t even Watch Kings games

He’s been just fine in the 2nd half of the season</div></div>

It's not the player necessarily, it's the pay for performance.
PLD is $8.5M (until 2031!!) for 39 points.
Velano is $825k for 26 points.

Is PLD better? Sure. Not $7M better...

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 3 at 3:54 p.m.

Thread: Trading Zegras and Vatrano for more scoring depth

Wings wouldn't pay anyone to take Holl; they'd just buy him out.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29 at 3:10 p.m.

Thread: Cant be any worse right

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SharkTank</b></div><div>Kasper over Soda.

Tuomisto? 🙄

I agree with the Holl buyout.

I'd also buyout Petry because as long as he's on the roster Newsy will play him.

Red Wings need Matt Roy so bad.</div></div>

Would Tuomisto be any worse than Holl or Petry? :) He's having a pretty decent season in GR.
But I wouldn't buy out Petry. Wouldn't want to give Pittsburgh an extra half mil in cap space next year.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 21 at 7:05 p.m.

Thread: Offseason Series - WINGS

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FriendlyGhost</b></div><div>Not just a river in Egypt!</div></div>

Reading comprehension >>> play on words.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 21 at 11:29 a.m.

Thread: Offseason Series - WINGS

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuzzledActuary</b></div><div>Ghost - has been really good for most of his time hear, good signing
Chiarot - has been really good for most part of this year, good signing
Holl - hasn't played much and has filled in just fine, fine signing
Petry - has played fine and wasn't a signing

Plus, none of the prospects were ready and other UFAs were either too expensive or didnt want to come....so once again, wrong.</div></div>

Maatta is actually good.
Ghost gets cratered at ES. One of the worst in the league.
Chiarot was terrible last year and has improved to just not good this year.
Holl is a replacement level D

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 21 at 10:48 a.m.

Thread: Offseason Series - WINGS

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FriendlyGhost</b></div><div>You didn't what?</div></div>

Nope, still never said Petry was a FA signing.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 20 at 10:04 p.m.

Thread: Offseason Series - WINGS

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FriendlyGhost</b></div><div>Petry wasn't an Yzerman signing, he traded for him...</div></div>

Didn't say he was.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 20 at 5:38 p.m.

Thread: Offseason Series - WINGS

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SharkTank</b></div><div>True.

But none of them are as bad as Holl.

But would Detroit really be any worse this season with Holl playing each night over Petry?</div></div>

|shrug|
Petry's WAR is -.1 and Holl's is .6. So technically Holl has been better than Petry. But neither are good enough in the deployment Detroit has to use them in.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 20 at 5:35 p.m.

Thread: Offseason Series - WINGS

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuzzledActuary</b></div><div>Wrong</div></div>

Useful comment. Appreciate it.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 20 at 4:57 p.m.

Thread: Offseason Series - WINGS

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SharkTank</b></div><div>Either way Yzerman is going to be eating a warm sandwich with Holl.
</div></div>

You could say that about most of SY's FA defense signings. :)

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 20 at 4:48 p.m.

Thread: Offseason Series - WINGS

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SharkTank</b></div><div>Just buyout Holl.

Keep the 2nd.</div></div>

Yep, Holl will either be traded for "future considerations" to a team like Arizona that needs a contract or just bought out.

Also I think Raymond's next contract is going to start with an 8 and not a 7.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 18 at 6:36 p.m.

Thread: Need to find a goalie

No, Husso hasn't been great this year. GSAA of -6

Who's worse you might be wondering?
Gibson - GSAA of -12
Vasilevskiy - GSAA of -9
Oettinger - GSAA of -10

So I wouldn't expect yet another retread goalie for next season and ride out Husso/Lyon until Cossa is ready.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 15 at 2:56 p.m.

Thread: Another year of pain

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Octopus_Guy</b></div><div>Probably have to pay a price to trade Holl away. I think this roster is kind of realistic for next season & that scares me. It's running it back with a worse team in my opinion. I think Edvinsson will help but losing Ghost and Sprong is a big deal.</div></div>

Possibly correct on Holl, though Arizona is going to need both cap $$ to hit the floor and actual players as they have 0 D signed for next year (though 4 RFAs).
Ghost is having a great year and would definitely miss him though he's probably going to get good offers as an UFA. I hope he doesn't become another SY overpay on D.
I don't have a problem losing Sprong. Even with his goals I'm not a fan of his play.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 6 at 5:53 p.m.

Thread: Deadline

Petry's not going anywhere. Can I interest you in one Justin Holl instead?

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 20 at 10:33 a.m.

Thread: Deadline Push23

I think Detroit takes that deal whether or not they're in a playoff race.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 15 at 2:40 p.m.

Thread: Sportsnetca

Detroit keeps it's 1st rounders and injured goalie and waits another year for their current glut of LHD defensemen to clear out.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12 at 12:39 p.m.

Thread: New LD

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuzzledActuary</b></div><div>Wallinder or Berg and the 1 isn't enough.</div></div>

Fair enough. I wouldn't do it and I don't think Detroit needs or would do it.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 9 at 4:41 p.m.

Thread: New LD

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuzzledActuary</b></div><div>Agreed but you have to give to get, and Wallinder becomes expendable with Chych and Edvinsson on the roster.</div></div>

Sure, still is a lot for a D who has a ton of hard minutes on him already at 25. I mean, I watched him play here in AZ. Wallinder and either Berggren *or* the 1st I could see. Forget Fabbri and the 2nd.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 9 at 3:03 p.m.

Thread: New LD

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>ott declines, not trading chych in division without massive overpay</div></div>

Alex DeBrincat would like a word. :)

Honestly I'm torn; Berggren, Wallinder and a 1st? Seems like a lot.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 10 at 4:50 p.m.

Thread: I really dont want Zegras but here we are

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fail4Nail</b></div><div>Ha, I've seen a lot of Red Wings AGM's post potential Zegras trades. All of you are undervaluing Zegras. He's going to cost at least Kasper or Danielson as the main piece coming back, stop trying to lowball. Back to back 60 point seasons on a terrible Ducks team. Last season he had 65 points and the Ducks had the second worst PP in the NHL......Easily can be an 80 point player.</div></div>

How many centers does Anaheim need? Seems like they're thin in the goalie pipeline and RHD.

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