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Yesterday at 4:10 p.m.
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2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>Every team wants to win. Every team is backed by huge investors and owners with deep pockets. If you can't survive in a soft-cap league, then maybe you shouldn't have a team. There are no shortage of backers with deep pockets to take their place</div></div>
That's easy to say but teams need to be stable in order to maintain attendance and profitability.
For most teams to survive, they have to be competitive to draw in casual fans and entrenched to maintain hardcore fans.
If teams are moving around in lean years because of poor attendance, they are losing fans from both groups and people are less likely to invest in their merchandise as well.
Demand goes down forcing them to reduce prices across the board for tickets, merchandise, and advertising.
There are way too many factors to simply implement a soft cap and let the chips fall where they may.
It's in everyone's best interest to maintain existing teams, keep everyone competitive, and level the playing field.
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NHL
Mon. at 5:39 p.m.
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2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>That's why I pointed to the NBA and not the MLB. Two completely different systems</div></div>
Both systems allow for the big market teams to dominate while the smaller market teams struggle
While the systems may be different concept is still the same.
If either came to the NHL it would cause a lot of problems
The big market teams would thrive while the small market teams will struggle and not just with ticket sales.
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NHL
Mon. at 4:13 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>Or just get rid of the hard cap 🤷♂️</div></div>
That will cause the rich teams to become OP
The big 3 TOR, NYR, MTL would just outbid most of the teams for their players
Would also cause players to demand more money from teams to stay
Small market teams would have trouble with player retention and potentially collapse
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Armchair-GM
Mon. at 8:09 a.m.
Thread:
whats the take on KK
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Why would they consider moving him? xGF/60 north of 3, ELITE defensive metrics, and the worst PDO of any Cane this year. He's been unlucky, not bad. Canadian hockey fans want to call him bad because of his time in Montreal, but he's coming off a 40 point year and even in a down year this year, he still can hit 30. Don't touch that contract. There are ways to keep Kotkaniemi and re-sign Guentzel, and almost all of them involve doing the smart thing. Moving Jordan Staal. Kotkaniemi with some offensively gifted linemates will be a 50 point guy, there are the signs of it. Watch him and its evident. He'll set up Brendan Lemieux whose all alone and Lemieux will hit the netting above the glass, or a cross-crease pass to a defenseman sneaking in that ends up going back into the slot or something dumb. Don't touch it.</div></div>
See what I mean about Canes fans not being able to admit a mistake?
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NHL Signings
Sun. at 1:12 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Zach Hyman (7 Years / $5,500,000 AAV)
Hyman might just be the luckiest man in the league, getting to play besides Matthews and McDavid for most of his career and inflate his point totals to make him seem so much better then he is
Forum:
Mock-Draft
Mar. 21 at 11:45 a.m.
Thread:
realistic 2024 mock
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Jokes are funny, so don't think this qualifies.</div></div>
couldnt be more beside the point
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NHL
Mar. 21 at 1:57 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>https://twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety/status/1770857070431969628
Not gonna lie this feels a bit excessive
I would have just thrown him our of last night or gave him an extra game if necessary
But at the same time the swing was pretty bad. Still we have seen DOPS let worse things go and I know its Wilson but still</div></div>
Wilson (a repeat offender) LITERALLY clubbed Gregor in the face with a stick, from behind, completely unprovoked... That is the kind of incident that warrants an in-person hearing. I dont care if clipping Gregor wasn't the expected outcome, the action of swinging the stick was intentional and flat out dangerous. If Mo got 5 for what he did to Greig, then this should 100% gets 5 games minimum.
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Mock-Draft
Mar. 21 at 9:23 a.m.
Thread:
realistic 2024 mock
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>Chicago is not taking a LHD, they have Alex Vlasic who plays on the first line and is a monster. Korchinski is on the 2nd line and that may never change the way Vlasic is playing as a rookie</div></div>
i swear half the people on this site are robots who cant detect jokes.
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NHL
Mar. 21 at 8:06 a.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>They do its called suspensions or a game misconduct</div></div>
Super inconsistent though
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NHL
Mar. 20 at 5:34 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_Habs_fan</b></div><div>Athletes getting CTE is one of the reasons ( but definitely not the only one), why I would not care if fighting and big hits left the game</div></div>
Its time for us to confront the uncomfortable truth about the impact of those hits
Edit: I mean we’re 100% late on this but the point still stands
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NHL
Mar. 20 at 5:27 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
Chris Simon is another example of why we need to stop complaining about the lack of physicality today compared to the 90s or something
I get big hits can make for exciting television but I feel that we’ve forgotten that the health and wellbeing of the athletes always come before our entertainment
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NHL Signings
Mar. 19 at 9:51 a.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Zach Hyman (7 Years / $5,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wilson_W_Wilson_Jr</b></div><div>Why would Leaf fans not want Hyman at this # for 7 years?
Toronto just recently signed Nylander to $11.5 for 8 years and he'll be turning 36 years old in the final year of his deal.
Hasn't Toronto had Muzzin on the LTIR for the last 3 years, making over $5.5 million a season? This year Muzzin is also getting a scouting contract on top of his LTIR contract.
Even when Hyman was in Toronto, he was more than worth this number. He played first or second line regularly, and if you can get a guy at this #, that can play on your first or second line, that's a deal.
He is born in Toronto and he wanted to stay in Toronto.
This is an all heart type of player, with an endless motor, who just keeps going.
People want to hate on Holland, but he has won, multiple times.
He has assembled a team with solid depth, with guys like Kane, Nugent-Hopkins, Hyman, Perry, and Bouchard all on very good deals, that he signed.
This is how you win.</div></div>
Winning? Signing Cody Ceci to a 3.25 million dollar contract? Signing Darnell Nurse (Not Sarah Nurse) to a <strong>9.25</strong> million dollar contract? Signing Connor Brown to, essentially, a 4 million dollar contract? What about signing RNH to a 5.5 million dollar contract for <strong>1</strong> goal in the playoffs? What about the Lucic deal? What about the Evander Kane contract? Or the Kulak trade/contract?
The way you build is the Yzerman/Sakic way of doing things, not sign everyone at age 29 to 5.5s and hope they preform at age 33
And all those *great* contracts just to have the same number of Round 3 wins as the Toronto Maple Leafs since 2007
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NHL Trades
Mar. 16 at 11:50 a.m.
Thread:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>worldwidesensei</b></div><div>It is interesting the disparities around the world. </div></div>
And the old Russian approach was to use "sticks in the middle" thereby flipping everyone to their offhand side.
Everything can work in a vaccuum when there is a an opportunity to exploit advantages/disadvantages of other teams' systems. Then the competition adapt/adjusts and the advantage is lost until the next one.
There are no absolutes; at least beyond temporary advantages.
Rules of thumb are more for the general mix, not to be applied to the elite performers.
Canadian players do seem to be playing pre-dominantly as lefties (dominant right hand on the knob end of stick) and therefore it is clear that up until the higher level tiers of hockey it doesn't matter so much about handedness because a players talent compared to his competition is the bigger factor. At some point the talent gap narrows and those small advantages take on heightened importance.
The majority of American players, to this point, have not had that type of coaching from such an early age (outside of the elite academies and hockey families); or the American coaches prefer the L/R balance that they try to achieve it at an early age.
Europeans seem to be more lefty dominant but tend to prefer to come from their offhand a lot; so this must be skills that are focused on in their development; perhaps a legacy of the Russian style from the 60s thru 90s; which had such an impact on world hockey especially in places like Finland and Czechia/Slovakia.
Dahlin, Heiskanen, Shea Theodore, etc CAN play exceptionally high level on their off hand. That doesn't apply to every defenseman; and it also doesn't apply to every defensive system/assignment. Which is why the "non-injury" mix of offhanded defenseman in the NHL is 10-11 players out of 192 in the starting 6 after the trade deadline; which is 5%. Even Dallas has been trying to find an elite enough RHD to pair with Heiskanen because they feel that he is better on the left side. But 90% Heiskanen is still better than 100% of anyone else they have on the right side so he remains; and now that Harley has arrived as their best #2 (top pair) D it will probably be that way for a while; just like Dahlin in Buffalo with Byram's arrival. Bo proved that he was not that great on HIS right side; which brings us full-circle to the original point in this thread. Buffalo did NOT put him on his offhand and they have Dahlin who is a rare 5%er that prefers it; and they have Samuelsson who seems adequate at it too for their 2nd pair with Owen Power so perhaps they are going to be a rare team with a fully capable top 4 of lefties; the "unicorn team" for this argument. I'm still reserving judgement on Samuelsson being a top 4 playoff-caliber defenseman on his offhand; versus a really good 3rd pair guy on his forehand.
That still does not mean it is normal in the NHL.
For "shutdown" types it matters much less because they are less likely to be trying to keep the puck in the offensive zone and work across the point; and when they do they need to be on their dominant hand to maximize their reaction times. For elite players like Dahlin, Heiskanen, Theodore their talent can offset that "law of nature/physics" disadvantage. This would apply to guys like Nate Schmidt, Dmitry Kulikov, TJ Brodie, Alex Goligoski, Matthias Samuellson, and sometimes Brayden McNabb (since the addition of Hanifin). Guys like Travis Sanheim are kind of a mixed bag so far and we'll have to see how it goes; he does have enough puck skills/skating to try it out but he isn't in that "elite" level of company in that regard; one would think Philly will re-align pairs in the future and look for a talent balance on the RH side in their top 4 (Drysdale developing is a big factor in that outlook).
I do think that there is plenty of evidence to support that the majority of average to really good NHL defenseman perform better on their natural handed side. Rather than looking at Dahlin; this point is better applied to Jacob Chychrun/Thomas Chabot; Sam Girard/Bo Byram; Weegar in Florida with Ekblad (did OK there but has been dominant on the RH side in Calgary); and Canuck pairing with Quinn Hughes prior to Hronek (Soucy, Cole, etc).
There are many times during games I've seen that you can tell the play was impacted or not able to setup properly because a player was in the right position but playing the puck on their offhand. Elite players can position themselves accordingly in advance so that it doesn't have as much of a drop off; but the majority of NHL players cannot do it that quickly or think ahead of the game at that speed to anticipate it. The NHL game is just so ridiculously fast paced that even a near-elite level talent can struggle in that regard.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 16 at 2:45 a.m.
Thread:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>people grab a stick like they grab a show shovel.
And it doesn't matter if you are right or left handed in how you grab it.
Some people feel they can use the stick better with their dominate hand on the bottom, others on the top.
Why you think your "handed" has anything to do with your stick hand tells me you never played.
I know plenty of people who held a stick "backwards" as you would have it.
Only 10% of the planet is left handed. The people holding left in the NHL are not from such a small group but the rights are from the 90% group. There would be a huge disparity in talent if that was true.
They are right handed people holding the stick left, and left handed people who hold the stick right.
It's about comfort and what "feels" natural to you. Has absolutely F all to do with what your handed is.
I don't know why you would even argue this. Anyone who ever played even pewee hockey knows this.</div></div>
You must have been a real pleasure to play with .
Since you're guessing my life, let's see....
I'm guessing you told many teammates, "THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO PLAY THE GAME, I'M RIGHT, YOU'RE WRONG. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO BENEFITS TO THE WAY YOU PLAY"
Must have been a treat to have as a teammate. For someone who played team sports at the collegiate level, you didn't learn much both on the ice or off of it on how to be a team player...and other basic social skills. Like...accepting other ways, and understanding that there is more than one way to skin a cat. And, never assume things.
But, here we are.
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NHL
Mar. 13 at 4:37 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CantStopWontStop</b></div><div>How would you predict the progression would go, if they did ban it?
Perhaps a season starts where a fighting major = a game misconduct?
I think that rule would have to be on pause for the playoffs for a few years. Can’t have the refs ejecting players because on slow Mo video replay the act counted as “throwing a punch”. Too much grey area for a rapid transition I think.</div></div>
A fight equals game misconduct and a 5 game suspension for first offense. After 3 fights you’re done for the season. Easy as that. A jab to a guy in a scrum at the front of the net is not a fight.
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NHL
Mar. 13 at 12:01 a.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Saskleaf</b></div><div>“Goalie interference” that didn’t seem like goalie interference. Didn’t looked like he touched Jarry but it was still called back.</div></div>
They called it back because Joseph high sticked Jarry. Got the stick blade in the mask.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 12 at 2:54 p.m.
Thread:
NHLDOPS Sucks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PerraultToBroadwaySoon</b></div><div>he's 6-8 and siegenthaler is much shorter than him wtf is rempe supposed to do???</div></div>
He needs to keep his arms down and tucked into his body like the way Trouba hits. He can't have his elbows up, especially considering how tall he is. He deserves a game or two so he will learn a lesson. Being tough and physical is great, but elbows to someone's head crosses the line, intentional or not.
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NHL
Mar. 11 at 2:56 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsForLife</b></div><div>I agree that it would not be good if this kind of thing happens more often, but I think the solution would be holding the refs accountable. Maybe post-game interviews like everyone else (although that could have negative influences as well). If the refs are handing out 10 minute misconducts for shoving, there’s going to be more guys in each box than on the bench.</div></div>
I agree there should be some way to hold refs accountable, don’t mind the idea of the refs getting interviewed, but have the coaches openly refuse to comply with the refs is a disaster for the NHL and needs to be avoided at all costs. Bad refs are better than no refs
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NHL Trades
Mar. 11 at 2:00 p.m.
Thread:
(MTL/NJD) - Légaré for Durandeau
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>No sense in having a "trade deadline" if teams can trade after the deadline :shakehead</div></div>
There is no trade deadline. There's a deadline to submit reserve lists for playoff eligibility.
That's a mouthful though, so we call it a trade deadline.
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NHL
Mar. 11 at 7:44 a.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_Habs_fan</b></div><div>The refs might’ve deserved it but you can’t tell the refs “screw you, I’m not respecting your decision to eject me”, once the refs eject you, there’s nothing for you to do except walk off and hope the NHL talks to the refs. The refs might’ve had it coming but Torts definitely had it coming, the NHL does not want coaches to start doing what Torts did</div></div>
Exactly, I’m not really aware of why Torts got kicked out and it wouldn’t surprise me if he probably shouldn’t have been, but you have to respect the refs. As much as we complain about the refs being crappy, you can’t play the game without them. If more coaches start doing this it would be a disaster for the NHL
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NHL
Mar. 10 at 10:27 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR</b></div><div>He shouldn't have been ejected in the first place. The refs made two terrible calls within 10 seconds of each (attard tripping call & Hathaway 10 Min misconduct for a shove). Torts said the first one was a dive but he didn't argue it too much, the 2nd one upset him so he made sure they knew but he really hadn't done anything out of the normal of coaches after bad calls. Then they wrongfully ejected him, so he told them to eff-off and flipped out.
If refs do their job, instead of abruptly ejecting torts because he called out a call. Torts doesn't flip out.</div></div>
He may well have had a legitimate reason to flip out.
The ref should be held accountable after the fact if it wasn't justified (that's a separate issue the NHL already struggles with).
In the moment however, like it or not, once a call is finalized you have to take it and allow the game to continue.
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NHL
Mar. 10 at 8:26 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR</b></div><div>nhl is a joke... torts suspended 2 games, 50K?!!?! fine</div></div>
Not sure what you expect. You can't just tell the ref to effoff and refuse to serve a penalty.
You can throw a fit on the way out, damage is done at that point, but you still have to leave.
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NHL
Mar. 9 at 12:25 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>Hes not entirely right, but those are definitely guys that Dubas really likes. I do find it funny that he conveniently left off guys like Acciari, Schenn, ROR, and Foligno who are all polar opposites of those guys lmao</div></div>
There’s a sizeable portion of Leafs fans who have a bizarre hate of the guy. I sincerely do not understand it.
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NHL
Mar. 8 at 8:30 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CantStopWontStop</b></div><div>I really like Edmonton’s moves. I think they already check the blocks for cocaine hockey and toughness, they needed stability. They got stability. Their underbelly is not as soft. I feel the last thing the rest of the league needs is a balanced roster lead by McDavid.
I kinda like Nashville’s approach. Tidy business.
And Calgary getting nhlers (near nhlers) back for rentals 3 times in one deadline is kinda cool.
Carolina giving kuznetsov a try is cool.
Florida getting the best deal in tarasenko is a big boost. Right place at the right time.
Colorado treated this deadline like the offseason and snagged two fairly big pieces they’ll maybe keep for awhile.
I think Pittsburg did well, but I’ve beat that one to death and will stop. I think history will reflect very positively short, medium, and long term.
Biggest loser: my team the blues who didn’t have anything you all wanted :( o well. Can’t fail at making a trade prediction if there’s no trades to predict.
Runner up: Detroit. Same reason as blues except they should have bought imo. You aren’t gonna get Patrick Kane under 3 mil another year. He’s proven he’s worth double that at least or the fact that no matter how good, the years are passing for him. It was worth a stab at a rental I think while you have that power up. Not like the stockpile is low. Didn’t need to go extreme, but I’m surprised they couldn’t find anything worthwhile.</div></div>
Cocaine hockey?
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NHL
Mar. 8 at 3:36 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>I mean he'll only be 37 and he's still a PPG player. There's almost zero chance it becomes as bad as Vlasic's contract.</div></div>
The fact you said there’s almost a zero percent chance makes you look like you’re just hating to hate.
I’m literally cheering for Hertl to win 2+ cups.
But Hertls having his 3rd? knee surgery. And he’s also not a PPG player. I love him and he’s a 1C in my eyes but 37 for a guy who’s already had 3 knee surgery’s isn’t a zero % chance (and there was no obvious play this year that made you think Hertls knee was shot again).
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