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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 13 at 10:34 a.m.
Thread: 24-25 With Jake
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>edeangel84</b></div><div>All of those trades get turned down? A 4th for Ned and a 5th for Ruhwedel are easy trades. There’s nothing risky about those trades for either buyer. The Eller trade would be ideal for a playoff team even if it isn’t the wings. Smith probably gets dealt this summer or maybe at the deadline and with the retention I don’t see how he is t worth that rather medium price.

Tanev isn’t getting big money at his age. If we offer 4 years that’s going to beat what almost anyone else offers for term. Older players like term and don’t like moving around. They have families and likely want to end their playing days in one spot. Our retirement home is an ideal ending spot.</div></div>

He is a nice steady stay at home Right Handed defenseman with good size and can skate. Would you trade that quickly?
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 4, 2023 at 12:11 p.m.
Thread: Dont Flame Out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>Hill will cost $3.4-4mil/yr+. You could probably re-sign Nedeljkovic for $1.8-2.3mil/yr though



If you want the next Alexander Georgiev in Dan Vladar the Price is a 2nd RD Pick (OR TWO 3rds + a 5th minimum) or Equivalent (Low-Cost) Player/Prospect(s)

Vladar is signed for $2.2mil/yr, whereas Georgiev is 55% more at $3.4mil/yr, so there's additional value there as well

OTT, ARI, PIT &amp; LAK will be in demand of Vladar's services as well, so we should get that value for him in return</div></div>

Detroit at this time when you figure promotions have about 28 million in cap space with 17 players under contract. Cap hit for this is not an important factor for the wings in the short term. They either will pay for hill or something of the like/ pay the price for a major upgrade/ follow the ned-husso route of a mid round pick for a goalie.

Another team might pay up for him with the need for the lower cap hit, but not Detroit. Pit and Ott dont have their 2nd, so i guess if want close to this value its AZ or LA
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 14, 2022 at 6:51 p.m.
Thread: Detroit Double Dip
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shakabakes</b></div><div>What would be an example?

What Player/Prospect from the Rangers (or any other team) would be reasonable for you to be paired with a 1st Rounder for Bertuzzi?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Spaceman</b></div><div>I highly doubt Detroit would decline this. Obtaining a 1st, a 2nd and a B+ prospect like Kravstov for Bertuzzi and Suter would be a very good return.</div></div>

Have you seen the price to move cap this year thus far, I dont believe it will get cheaper. Bert is worth at the deadline a 1st + (what the plus is up for debate as his production this year will influence it) asking for retention on it adds more(it cost a Van a second to move the same amount of cap for instance). Suter's value is about a mid round pick at this point, maybe even less given his contract. So the deal isn't the low ball offer some might say, but it doesn't help the wings that much beyond the 1st rounder. You need to find the right piece that would make the wings consider it.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2022 at 5:54 p.m.
Thread: Pens After trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Maybe a little surprise that Pettersson is so high in this ranking. But he deserves to be there in our eyes. He was really, really good defensively this year. It's unbelievable for us that Sullivan didn't use him at PK much more. Underrated defensive defenseman for us. <a href="https://t.co/VCdPEMZZUt" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">pic.twitter.com/VCdPEMZZUt</a></p>— Andy &amp; Rono (@ARHockeyStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/ARHockeyStats/status/1541806647085043712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">June 28, 2022</a></blockquote>

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Personally I would have preferred Petterson over Chariot but that wasn't the choice Stevie Y made. But with that choice made they are committed to it, so one matter how good Petterson is he is no longer a fit in Detroit unless something changes.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2022 at 5:46 p.m.
Thread: Pens After trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div>Pens didn’t a LHD or RHD until they did..lol.

And Detroit rebuild seems to be just about over. Their signings this offseason proved that. I wouldn’t trust Maatta with 2nd pairing minutes anymore. But ok.

And Chiarot struggled with 1st pairing minutes and a 1st pairing role in Florida.

Larkin, Raymond and Seider seem like pieces to build around. And Hronek, Copp, and Bertuzzi are nice complimentary pieces(unless Bertuzzi gets dealt). With acouple more nice secondary pieces.

And waves of those prospects are gonna be coming through in a year or two.

You feel competitive this season with Maatta at 2nd pairing LHD??</div></div>


The Wings are not going to trade their only legit RD prospect for a LD upgrade now. Not with their depth of LD prospects and need to allow flexibility to tryout some of them in the NHL to see how they do.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 19, 2022 at 2:55 p.m.
Thread: Addressing RD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>C_M_O_R</b></div><div>I’ve also recently heard Petry tied to Detroit. It doesn’t make sense for Detroit without a package and retention. Also, Hronek was in the rumor mill within the past year. It’s an attempt at putting plausible moving pieces together. Guri was one of the worst possible players in Bones’s coaching system. He’s a solid player that needs help on his small game.</div></div>

I just don't understand the motive for Detroit to make this deal. You only get older on D, you can argue which player is better until you blue in the face cause is isn't a gap worth the 2nd round pick. And Gurianov doesn't move the needle at all for Detroit just adding to the glut of winger the Red Wings have. So in total this deal cost the Wings a haul, doesn't address any of their needs (top 6 C, Top 4 LD) and adds to areas of the team already deep in.

As for the general debate about Petry it seems like the wings would acquire him if the price was low enough but I can't see the Habs moving him for the cost the Wings would want to pay. He just doesn't improve the team enough to warrant any major assets traded.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2022 at 9:09 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 30, 2022 at 8:15 p.m.
Thread: Price LTIR knee is recurring issue
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OlegP</b></div><div>What would make sense to you? Its a trade which is give and take. You only dont like it cause its not your idea. You simply take all the negative like a 34 year old comment despite Petry being a top4 RD which always goes for a bounty. No team doesnt need a top4 RD especially an anemic defensive team. That is such a lazy narrative. Zzzzz</div></div>

Or Petry is a nice piece for a team that doesn't have a top 4 right handed offensive defenseman. He replaces Hornek on Detroit, but he cost more, is older by a decade and most importantly adds little production in comparison to. No point in the Wings giving up future value for something they already have regardless of how anyone feels about said value.