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Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 3, 2020 at 11:06 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>My man, I'm seriously trying to help you so that you can learn. Right now you're just saying JR is going to screw everyone over because he's JR and everyone should help PIT. The minimum Qualifying offer PIT can offer is $3,750,000 because that was his previous contract. Murray's not going to accept that. Why would he? He can always accept that later after arbitration. There's nothing stopping him from signing a smaller deal. But again what's stopping him from filing for arbitration? He's already giving PIT the hometown discount. That was his last contract. Now it's his turn to get paid.

The 2nd part is this is the single worst goalie market in the history of the NHL. Just because someone gets X amount of money doesn't mean they're worth it and it doesn't mean they have the cap space avialable. You can't just say this is the offer sheet value so that's what they're worth. Do you think Seabs is worth a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd? No. I can understand that.

Think about the timing now. UFAs open up October 9th. Lost of teams will start to figure out their situations. Probably not 100% of them, but alot of them. So the already worst goalie market in history is going to get even worse by the time JR even knows what his options are for Murray. Do you honestly think you'll get "fair value" when there's only one team looking?</div></div>

This is a very accurate picture of this situation. Murry has zero incentive to give the Pens anything, he is arb eligible and can use that to take a short term contract to take him to UFA. He knows he is looking at a contract in the 4 to 6 million dollar range for one/two years, he isnt going to be giving the pens any kind of leverage over that. That is why I am not a fan of the Red Wings trading for him, he isnt signing longer term coming off his worse season and the flat cap, he is better off taking a short deal to UFA and taking on the open market with the hopeful rebound in revenue.

As for JJ to the wings I dont get why they would pay any sort of "market" rate for him, they can target other teams in cap hell before giving up a high pick. They have already come out and said they are not trading picks this year and are hopeful to add more. Even for a prospect like POJ they would take the the deal like JJ/POJ without the pick given up. They simply are not in the market for giving up long term assets even if they are getting other long term assets. For the Wings there is too many teams looking to shed cap that can giving them more without them giving up anything. Unless they believe that POJ is a top pairing D, then maybe they do it but I dont think anyone other then Pen fans think that, most see him a solid 2nd pairing.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 2, 2020 at 12:10 p.m.
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Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsSep. 16, 2020 at 6:12 a.m.
Thread: Phase 1
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 8, 2020 at 1:38 a.m.
Thread: Goaltending
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 30, 2020 at 6:01 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 30, 2020 at 4:00 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ML16</b></div><div>To answer a few queries :

- The Byron trade’s aim is to offload his 3,4M (for the next 3 years) ; Blais’ salary (and physicality) is more manageable for bottom-6 duties. However I can see how Steen’s salary relief would be short-lived for the Blues, maybe the 4th round pick is thus not compensation enough, even though Byron is far from a simple throw-in, he’s a good veteran with impeccable work ethic and lethal speed; the Habs are too small on the wings and need to remediate this however.

- I concur with the one who said that the Jets missed Armia last season, especially since they lost Tanev (and Trouba) as well. Perreault’s cap dump provides the Jets some flexibility going ahead, while the Vesalainen/Armia+4th help each team’s weakness.

As for the trade centered around Domi and Mantha, I can see that emotions are running high! I concede that Mantha has an overall better value than Domi for now, but the difference is not worth a 1st round pick (nor Caufield) in my humble opinion. I would however be open to add one of MTL’s second round pick this year to the original deal, as well as change Lindgren for a D prospect in his early 20s (Fleury/Brook/Juulsen, ie.) since DET’s D is not looking good... Beyond that, considering MTL owns Domi’s rights for two more years, I would call upon Bob Gainey to take a stroll with Domi in Montreal’s Old Port district to remind him that there is « no I in team » and cross my fingers that it elevates his game like Kovalev back in the day!</div></div>

I can not see Det trading Mantha unless it is a massive overpay or they decide to completely rebuild. As such Domi being good but short term does nothing for the wings. Its that simple.

If they deal Mantha it will be for futures and the less risk the better. high picks/ top prospects, that will be what Detroit will be after not players like Domi or Mete. And no they will not take it just to trade them on, it places more risk of the deal in Detroit's hand and that will not be acceptable.
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