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Forum: Mock-DraftOct. 27, 2020 at 3:23 p.m.

Thread: better 2012 redraft

Why did you drop Morgan Rielly down so far compared to other players like Gostisbehere, Skjei, and Trouba?

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 24, 2020 at 3:38 p.m.

Thread: Vatrano 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ForsbergForVezina</b></div><div>If that's what it costs, I'd say yes. Boychuk's contract hurts us this year and it's going to hurt us next year when Beau, Pelech and Sorokin are up. Gonna get quite a bit of relief by moving his whole deal. If Wood plays well, we can look to trade him next offseason or at the deadline if we need money</div></div>

I think that is a lot to give up to me that contract out. I know that the Isles are contending for the Cup now but they still need some prospects to plug into the line-up. That's what let Chicago and Pittsburgh to contend for so long.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 24, 2020 at 10:42 a.m.

Thread: Vatrano 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ForsbergForVezina</b></div><div>Well, we're not trading for Wood per se, we'd be trading to get rid of Boychuk. In fairness, I don't know how highly the Devils would value Wood, so maybe it's unfair to classify him as a throw-in on the other side of a cap dump, but the way I see it, we'd take him to offset some of the financial burden NJ takes on in taking Boychuk's contract.</div></div>

In this scenario, are you saying that the Isles are trading both Bellows and Wilde?

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 22, 2020 at 3:33 p.m.

Thread: Vatrano 2

I think that that is a really big overpayment for a guy like Wood. I would think that Boychuck+Wilde would be enough to get the deal done but I understand where you are coming from in this scenario.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 22, 2020 at 3:25 p.m.

Thread: Isles 2020-21 - Outside the Box Ideas

I don't understand how this helps the Isles get better. Sure Laine is a great improvement offensively but moving both Leddy, Pulock, and Boychuck out of the line-up for Barrie and Lindholm doesn't seem like a great move.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 22, 2020 at 3:18 p.m.

Thread: Based on Arthur Staple article today

I can't see the Isles moving Bellows in a cap dump trade.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 20, 2020 at 10:45 a.m.

Thread: Just push certain guys out of the lineup

I honestly like these trade proposals. But, Idk if Namestnikov would slot in a center.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 11:09 a.m.

Thread: Creating Overpay guesses for Dillon

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>Depends on moveables.
List a few guys who have potential on being loved for Labanc, I have ideas but I’d like your idea</div></div>

A 2nd + Bellows

A 1st+ Koivula

A 1st + Bellows + Komorav + 3rd

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 11:04 a.m.

Thread: Creating Overpay guesses for Dillon

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>Forgot about that trade honestly,

But as mentioned above in another reply I’d have them low in reality of teams left bidding for Dillon</div></div>

What do you think it would take for the Isles to get Labanc?

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 11:03 a.m.

Thread: Why not

The Isles don't need to trade for Dillion, but I could see them trading for Labanc.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 11:00 a.m.

Thread: Creating Overpay guesses for Dillon

I don't think the Isles would trade for him since they already traded for Greene.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 10:54 a.m.

Thread: NYI 20-21 w some trades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>niko</b></div><div>For sure he would, the new system is not his style but on a more 'offense heavy' team he could put up some solid numbers</div></div>

I just hope that if they were to move him the Isles get a fair deal for him.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 10:50 a.m.

Thread: NYI 20-21 w some trades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Warrior24</b></div><div>Moving Leddy and Hickey is ideal, then they have the cap room that is needed.

It is time to move on from Leddy as well, not a great fit in the system and if he is not scoring he is not that valuable to the team.</div></div>

I agree, I love Leddy but he has not been the same since Trotz has implemented his system. I think that if he played on a team like the Oilers he would put points back up.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.

Thread: Trade coming Today

OTT is not making that trade. But as an Isles fan, I'd take that in a heartbeat.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 10:44 a.m.

Thread: Trades with Jets Avs Isles

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchDezzy</b></div><div>Him and JGP would be nice. Expensive, but it’s two solid players.</div></div>

In these situations, you have to give to get. I think this trade would be huge for the Isles, especially if they can get JPG to re-sign.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 10:42 a.m.

Thread: NYI 20-21 w some trades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Warrior24</b></div><div>Leddy's salary is needed for the Barzal, Pulock extensions.

If Greene is re-signed the LD next year could be:

Pelech
Toews
Greene

Hickey- If not moved
Aho</div></div>

I can see them moving Hickey to free up some more cap space.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 10:35 a.m.

Thread: Trades with Jets Avs Isles

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Ennis has been a huge surprise this year. Playing like a solid 3rd liner and getting on the scoresheet super often</div></div>

He's a been a solid player for OTT and that's why the Isles should be picking him up as well.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 10:34 a.m.

Thread: Trades with Jets Avs Isles

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchDezzy</b></div><div>Hypothetically, they get JGP and Ennis.

Beau Barzal Eberle
Lee Nelson Bailey
Ennis JGP Brassard
Martin Komorav ?</div></div>

You could slot Johnston in there for now, but if the line up is healthy I would have the fourth line be:

Martin-Cizikas-Clutter

With Komorav as the 13th forward

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 10:28 a.m.

Thread: NYI 20-21 w some trades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>niko</b></div><div>Maybe to a team like Vegas who also needs D but I could see them being more willing to give up a first</div></div>

I think that if they were to move Leddy it would be for an offensive piece going the other way. Leddy is a valuable player and could be a good centerpiece for a trade top six player.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 10:26 a.m.

Thread: Trades with Jets Avs Isles

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchDezzy</b></div><div>I’d say go after JGP and Ennis. I think it’ll cost a first and a prospect but the isles are more than one player way.</div></div>

I agree with you there. The bottom six needs a serious shake-up and if they do that the Isles could be scary.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 10:22 a.m.

Thread: Trades with Jets Avs Isles

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchDezzy</b></div><div>Ok...you can have Komorav, but we keep Clutter</div></div>

Would you rather have Duclair or JGP? I like JPG over Duclair since the Isles center depth is depleted without Cizikas.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 10:15 a.m.

Thread: NYI 20-21 w some trades

You don't think that Leddy could get a 1st?

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 18, 2018 at 11:57 a.m.

Thread: Active Draft Pick Team

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Herms17</b></div><div>I remember a story that was done by HNIC about this team. they had all the tools to be a very very good team. They showed how the team would look like if they didnt trade these players away and it was staggering how good they would have been done.
But the NYI have been like this. dominate in the 80s then lost in the woods till JT came, but now....I have no idea where they are going. A few nice pieces and the Lou/Trotts factor helps.</div></div>

I know that it is very early on, but I feel like they will trend up. I respect Snow for what he did, he did a lot better than Millbury ever did for the Isles, but he just couldn't pull the trigger when it was needed. I think it had a lot to do with the Vanek trade. Losing JT is a huge set back for the franchise, but if Barzal is groomed the right way I honestly can see him better than JT. Hopefully Lou can bring this team to a competitive level in a few years.

Forum: Mock-DraftSep. 13, 2018 at 12:19 p.m.

Thread: stacked draft

I don't think that Erica Staal should have dropped that much. If you look at his stats, he is at the top of the class when it comes to points.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 13, 2018 at 11:56 a.m.

Thread: Active Draft Pick Team

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Herms17</b></div><div>by all accounts the NYI should ahve been a power house in the mid/late/early 2000s.
looks at their picks from 1991 onward.
Zigmund Palffy
Darius Kasparaitis
Todd Bertuzzi
Bryan McCabe
Tommy Salo - G
Wade Redden
J.P. Dumont
Zdeno Chara
Roberto Luongo
Eric Brewer
Tim Connolly
Raffi Torres
Frans Nielsen

obviously the 1999 draft killed them. having the 5, 8, 10, and 28 picks should be good but....
actaully the entire 1999 draft sucked, other then the sedins</div></div>

This just proves how a bad front office, and owner who was more concerned about the land around the arena can be detrimental to a team.

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