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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31 at 11:17 a.m.
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>Zegras is also far more valuable than Dach/Newhook were. Dach had a career high of 26 points, and Newhook had a career high of 33 points on a loaded Colorado team. Meanwhile Zegras has a multiple 60+ point seasons on terrible Anaheim teams. Obviously points aren’t everything but he’s still more valuable than Dach/Newhook easily

For comparisons sake, Zegras has a slightly higher PPG than Caufield in their careers, Zegras can play center, and both are bad defensively. Zegras’ value would be closer to what you’d ask for in a Caufield trade</div></div>

Business in a Capitalistic Society is Supply vs Demand with the exception of someone using Leverage to their advantage ,them's the rules of business 10/10 , 100/100 and a 1000/1000. I talk with ANA fans and have this debate often , a few of which i speak with above where we literally touch back on conversations we had about everything you just said and more. Zegras is great , i want him at the right price. Barron is a great player and ANA wants him at the right price. (Harris less so but would take with a top 15 pick this year basically). Same as they want to sell him at the right price even if that means sitting on him during a decline after a new contract(We did that with Petry too and it worked out so its logical"

As for other Draft Day Deals they were situational as is the Zegras trade now.
Circumstances beyond their immediate control given the context of their said situations.
Same reason CHI got a ridiculous return for Hagel from TBL based on Situational needs and leverage.

Teams get less too sometimes for the same reason like LAK who had a Surplus of Valuable D for too long. They ended up selling low on Durzi, Walker and Grans
MTL has done the same potentially if we dont move Savard and Kovacevic out in their final years , its the cost of doing business sometimes.

All that said there is NO WAY we get Newhook that cheap unless Colton Ross was there to help upgrade and bridge the gap cause they NEEDED Newhook to become Kadri's replacement basically as his ELC expired . He wasnt ready Colton was closer and COL seeing their window is getting tighter with this core made a change.

Dach was trade like Danault for nothing cause of injury issues in CHI
CHI hedged their bets and lost again in my books. That said Danault rise was consistent and relatively injury free so Dach could still bust.
Regardless Dach was acquired because KK left and MB final move as GM was to replace him with Dvorak paying more then CAR did for KK or MTL did for Dach
Situation was only possible because of NYI rough finish to the season followed by a need for Defense after Romanov made a name for himself in the playoffs as a Huge Hitter after laying out Pietrangelo clean.


Zegras again would be Situational and lets say ANA reunites Vatrano with his center Reinhart ANA now has the room ,and then some
The right draft pick this year (Top 3 would set them up big) along with a big return for Zegras and adding Gauthier , Their rebuilds over as they got depth on all fronts


1st this year has value to the point i'd almost rather keep the WPG pick and trade the CGY one
Barron gives them a player who should be in the NHL log jammed into a AHL role like Jordan Spence was in LAK for over a year based on him having Waiver Exempt Status more or less but i digress.

Farrell i'd rather keep and offer up Kidney, Kappnen or Beck as all 3 are playing for 1 job that Dach is more likely to lock down
Farrell is a speedy playmaker with great vision and on a team accumulating Goal Scorer but has no elite Playmakers, developing Farrell is important for us right now.
On paper ANA would get more Value then COL or CHI did from us if you take 1st in 2025 , Barron and Beck that 's two 1st round picks with Barron being a former and Beck the 1st pick in the 2nd round who has chemistry playing with McTavish at Junior and Team Canada levels for Zegras.

Before Zegras's wedge with his team this year after their contract talks didnt go smoothly , that was where me and a few ANA fans were at with Zegras Value.
The only way that increased was with ANA RS 50% for 2 remaining year at which point they'd get a 2nd in 2026 and an upgrade from the CGY pick to the WPG one this year. Which for the record is more then i'd likely get for Caufield who like Gallagher has a value worth more then cash or any trade can replace
(and hughes would never sign him a blank check like MB did Gally as a big F you on his way out to ownership, Hence no GM job or real power since but i digress)
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 30 at 2:16 p.m.
Thread: Zegras
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 30 at 11:22 a.m.