Apr 25, 2019
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div><a href="/users/Austerity" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Austerity</a> I've followed Joki since he was drafted by the Hawks. Even his year in Portland in the WHL. The Joki for Nylander trade was Stan's single biggest mistake in his trading career. Arguable bigger than extending Seabs. Only time will tell. Joki's a stud. The only D prospect I saw in my lifetime that Coach Q actually trusted. AND he trusted him so much that Joki was tossed on the ice against McDavid when they played EDM. I don't see Joki getting traded.</div></div>
Yeah, that makes sense to me. His poise looks like his greatest strength from when I've watched him.
I think that the Leafs are kind dead in the water in looking for a certified top 4 RHD. In my opinion, Dumba costs too much and is too high of variance to go for. He's not even close to being guaranteed to be effective enough to justify the potential price tag.
I made a meme Armchair GM last Friday that was just on the cusp of being obvious, and it grabbed Martinez (for Nylander, of course) - what would the cost realistically be for him, and should the Leafs even bother trying to trade?
I'm starting to think they should just try a Lefty on the right side, even if they're less effective there, and run Sandin on 3LD for:
It's not a super tough D line, but it's fast and skilled. It just worries me on zone entries and clearing the front of the net... so the defensive part, lol. Maybe pick up Hainsey or DeMelo from Ottawa and run 7D?
Maybe a deal sending Johnsson to the Senators for Ennis and DeMelo would be a good idea (and possibly offloading Ceci)? I think it's possible Ennis would come back to Toronto and perform well, especially given Babcock being gone.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MG1986</b></div><div>I don't think the Leafs and Hawks match up very well on a deal. Connor Murphy's value seems to get blown well out of proportion considering what he brings to the table, and the Leafs are deep enough at wing that someone like Saad, or even Shaw would probably not be a great fit, even though both of those player, and especially the latter, bring a grit element the Leafs currently do not have. If the Leafs make a meaningful move (a trade where they acquire a non-rental) I think they will be trading offense for defense. So, unless the Blackhawks are prepared to make a hockey trade like Johnsson for Murphy, which I think is more than a fair deal both ways, I don't see this working out. As a side note, if the Hawks retained some money, I do think the Leafs would be extremely interested in rental Lehner.</div></div>
I like your take on the situation, but I think the current market for Defence is a seller's market: teams with Defence will want a premium, and Murphy is 6'4" EvErY TiMe He StEpS oN ThE IcE.
He's also got good underlying numbers. Obviously, the Leafs would be interested in rental Lehner - he solves any and all defence problems a team can have, and then you can run rested Robin and Freddy... perhaps run 11F and 7D for rested D as well, and cycle the hell out of the Leafs forwards.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dach</b></div><div>Shaw is one of the most loved blackhawks by far. He’s not getting moved
Although I would really like kapanen or johnsson</div></div>
Yeah, Shawsy is one of the most beloved Hawks for good reason. Re-signing Lehner/Crow, Strome, and Kubalik has to be more important though. Toews and Kane need guys they can play with, and you have Saad, Kubalik, Caggiula, Debrincat, Strome, and Dach for that. Shaw comes in a little bit too expensive, especially given the uncertainty around Seabrook's contract, and spending so much on Keith/Maatta/de Haan.
And then the other question is whether Gustafsson gets re-signed.