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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 16, 2022 at 1:27 p.m.
Thread:
Going For It
I get what your saying, but IMO:
Jeannot > Kerfoot
Hathaway > Engvall
Schenn > Holl
Sandin is a redundancy on this team and I've always liked Fabbro's game (plus it helps the left side right side problem)
Roberston hurts to lose but thats the cost of doing business at the deadline, and Keefe doesn't seem to want to play him anyways
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 19, 2020 at 3:07 p.m.
Thread:
Pietrangelo
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Chief_Kief</b></div><div>Why would the Islanders do that. Lmao</div></div>
The more intricate parts of the trade (picks + prospects) could be added to appeal to both sides, Im sure the leafs could add something to make it worthwhile. Although I think Dermott's ceiling is way higher than Mayfield's so that should be accounted for.
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Armchair-GM
May 7, 2020 at 2:19 a.m.
Thread:
Flat Cap 2020-21
Just clued in that I screwed up and meant for that to be Kesler's contract instead of Backes. Fixed.
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Armchair-GM
May 7, 2020 at 2:08 a.m.
Thread:
Flat Cap 2020-21
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jah1722</b></div><div>He’ll also be ineligible for LTIR because he’s heathy.</div></div>
Tell that to Stephane Robidas and Joffrey Lupul
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Armchair-GM
May 7, 2020 at 1:45 a.m.
Thread:
Flat Cap 2020-21
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLSage</b></div><div>Backes is damaged goods so Leafs say no no.</div></div>
That's the point. He goes straight to LTIR.
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NHL Signings
Feb. 5, 2019 at 8:44 p.m.
Thread:
Toronto Maple Leafs signed Auston Matthews (5 Years / $11,640,250 AAV)
I'm desperate hear what HawksFan28 thinks about whats going on in Leaf land. That guy spent the whole summer lighting up every chat board about how the leafs were gonna lose one of the big 4 plus Marleau, Kadri and Gardiner, while arguing about how much Nylander, AM34 and Marner are gonna demand. So far hes been wrong about literally everything he said hahahaha.
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NHL Signings
Dec. 1, 2018 at 6:03 p.m.
Thread:
Toronto Maple Leafs signed John Tavares (7 Years / $11,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HawksFan28</b></div><div> The notion that Nylander will sign a long-term deal for anything less than 7.5 is insanity....
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Hey man look how wrong you were
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NHL Trades
Sep. 13, 2018 at 5:58 p.m.
Thread:
(SJS / OTT) - Karlsson, Perron for Tierney, DeMelo, Norris, Balcers & picks
This literally looks like an armchair-GM trade. What an absolute mess
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 11, 2018 at 4:36 p.m.
Thread:
Bridge Nylander, Acquire Parayko
My thoughts exactly STLBlues17
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Detroit Red Wings
Aug. 9, 2018 at 1:04 p.m.
Thread:
Niklas Kronwall
Not a wings fan so I was just wondering the status of Nik Kronwall. How was his play in his own end last season, and does he still have any game left? noticed his deal is expiring and could be an interesting deadline deal if he can still get the job done.
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NHL Signings
Jul. 10, 2018 at 11:50 a.m.
Thread:
Toronto Maple Leafs signed John Tavares (7 Years / $11,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HawksFan28</b></div><div>Nylander is probably going to be traded for a cost controlled defenseman...... Funny how he's not signed yet.
I mean the notion that Toronto fans believe the leafs can somehow defy the salary cap is pretty amazing - especially when it's simple math..........But yea I forgot, those young kids don't care about getting paid market value.....
And it's funny, you keep on referring to contracts that were signed a while ago...... There is a reason why Crosby only makes 8.7 million - right because he signed his contract 5 years ago when 8.7 was tops in the league...
You're joking yourself if you think this is all going to workout without any cap issues at all....
Nylander will probably be traded -- and you can bet if some GM's want to get nasty they give Nylander an offer sheet and really force Toronto's hand, the same can be done next summer with Matthews and Marner if theyr'e not signed to extensions........ And to be honest with you, If I'm Lou - you can bet your ass I will offer-sheet anyone of them considering they lost Tavares for nothing....</div></div>
Look at the current RFAs who are still unsigned:
Mark Stone
Ryan Murray
Ryan Spooner
Jacob Trouba
Cody Ceci
Elias Lindholm
Kevin Hayes
Matt Dumba
Brock Nelson
Connor Hellebuyck
Tom Wilson
Jason Zucker
William Karlsson
Brady Skjei
Brandon Montour
Dylan Larkin
Jordan Schmaltz
Noah Hanifin
Mark Jankowski
Miles Wood
Jimmy Vesey
Sam Reinhart
Nick Ritchie
Jake Virtanen
Darnell Nurse
Ryan Hartman
Josh Morrissey
Anthony Mantha
Ryan Pulock
Shea Theodore
William Nylander
Buckle up everyone! the rest of the summer is gonna be super exciting when all of these guys get traded since they haven't been re-signed yet!
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NHL Signings
Jul. 10, 2018 at 11:38 a.m.
Thread:
Toronto Maple Leafs signed John Tavares (7 Years / $11,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HawksFan28</b></div><div>Nylander is probably going to be traded for a cost controlled defenseman...... Funny how he's not signed yet.
I mean the notion that Toronto fans believe the leafs can somehow defy the salary cap is pretty amazing - especially when it's simple math..........But yea I forgot, those young kids don't care about getting paid market value.....
And it's funny, you keep on referring to contracts that were signed a while ago...... There is a reason why Crosby only makes 8.7 million - right because he signed his contract 5 years ago when 8.7 was tops in the league...
You're joking yourself if you think this is all going to workout without any cap issues at all....
Nylander will probably be traded -- and you can bet if some GM's want to get nasty they give Nylander an offer sheet and really force Toronto's hand, the same can be done next summer with Matthews and Marner if theyr'e not signed to extensions........ And to be honest with you, If I'm Lou - you can bet your ass I will offer-sheet anyone of them considering they lost Tavares for nothing....</div></div>
You're only lying to yourself if you think i compared Nylander's contract to contracts that were signed a while ago. I only referred to two contracts, Pastrnak (SIGNING DATE: September 14, 2017) and Ehlers (SIGNING DATE: October 4, 2017) only one year ago so how does this compare to bringing up Crosby's contract? Did you also notice how these players were signed in the fall and not immediately after July 1st, funny how they weren't traded. Also I'm not suggesting that the leafs rip these players off and somehow defy the cap like you seem to think. You originally set the parameters for "market value" (remember age, production, potential and comparable contracts?) All i did was use those metrics to show that Nylander's market value was not as high as some people like to point out, especially not at this point in his career where he has no contract leverage as he is just finishing his ELC, has no arbitration rights and is an RFA whose only play is to sit out until he gets what he wants, which in the end will only hurt his value especially if he sits the full year. Btw the Islanders don't have the picks necessary to offersheet Nylander unless they re-acquire their own second and third rounders. And plus, even if they did offer sheet any of these players you realize they would have to sign it for it to mean anything right? Why would any of these kids leave what has the potential to be a perennial Stanley Cup contender to play for a team who currently looks like they would lose to the Marlies? Would they really do that for a few extra million bucks, none of these 3 players are even 22 years old yet, they have over a decade to make more money than they could ever know what to do with.
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jul. 2, 2018 at 12:59 a.m.
Thread:
Toronto Maple Leafs signed John Tavares (7 Years / $11,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HawksFan28</b></div><div>Wrong.....
The cap went up - that means salaries go up too, the only comparable to Matthews is McDavid, and no doubt Matthews will get McDavid money if not more. 12.5
Marner is going to want Draisaitl money and he will get it 8.5
Nylander is going to want 7.5 at least..
Look, JVR just got 7, are you saying Nylander at his age isn't worth more than that?
Toronto is going to be in cap hell with 40 million tied up in 4 players..
And the notion that these kids will just take a "discount" isn't going to happen - this is the first huge contract these kids are going to have to get paid and they're going to want as much as possible, because who knows, they could get injured 2 years down the road and they're no longer the player they once were - but at least they will be set for life... So you better believe they're going to get paid...
I mean at the very least Toronto is going to have to dump Kadri and Marleau..
The notion these guys are going to take lowball offers is just insanity when you look around the league and there are guys that aren't as good as them making more .....
Age, potential, production and comparisons is how you determine these salaries - not what you believe they are "subjectively" worth..</div></div>
If Dubas wants to play hardball with Nylander all he has to do is look no further than Nik Ehlers' deal in Winnipeg, who is set to make $6M per for the next 7 years starting in 2018-2019. So if the Leafs were to lock up Nylander for $6M per for 7 years, both players would make 7.5% of the $79.5M salary cap in 2018-2019. What makes these two players comparable is nearly everything. So using your metrics of age, potential and production for comparison you will see that Nylander and his agent are not in a position to demand $7.5M.
Age:
Both are 22 years old and were drafted in the first round of the 2014 draft (8th and 9th overall) and both signed their ELCs at age 18.
Production:
In two full seasons Ehlers scored 54 goals, 70 assists and 124 points (25 on the PP) in 164 games for 0.76 points per game, playing 16:30 minutes a night on average. In the same two seasons Nylander scored 42 goals, 80 assists and 122 points (38 on the PP) in 163 games for 0.75 points per game, playing 16:30 minutes a night on average. Both players have played with elite line-mates at both 5v5 and on the powerplay.
Potential:
Both players have the potential to be top line scoring wingers (which they already are). So judging by their past performance it is easy to project that both players will consistently score within the 60-70 point range over the course of a full season.
Thus, since many of the contracts in the league are decided by comparable player contracts, a precedent has already been set that a winger of Nylander's caliber, at his age, is objectively worth $6M per year. What statistics can his agent bring to the table that would merit his client being paid more? Maybe David Pastrnaks contract? lets see.
Pastrnak is also 22 years old and signed his ELC at 18.
In the same two full seasons, he has scored 69 goals, 81 assists, and 150 points (50 on the PP) in 157 games for 0.96 points per game. Making it likely that he gets 70-80 points a year in a full season.
He makes $6.6M per season which started in 2017-2018 meaning he made 8.8% of the $75M salary cap, which for Nylander would only come out to $6.9M per year. However, based on production and potential it does not appear that he deserves as much as Pastrnak.
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