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Armchair-GM
Jul. 7, 2018 at 10:13 p.m.
Thread:
Captain Princess
I don't understand taking on Bobby Ryan and keeping Alzner, but getting rid of DeLaRose. Not consistent with a youth movement.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 7, 2018 at 12:05 a.m.
Thread:
Trade suggested by Canes fan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Chigurrhh</b></div><div>Trades generally have to make sense for both teams (unless your name is Peter Chiarelli).
Pens would have zero reason to downgrade their defense by trading Maatta to Montreal for such a meager return. Pittsburgh's top four is signed for the next few seasons. Why would they get rid of that stability for a bottom six winger and bottom pairing defensemen? Doesn't make sense.</div></div>
Paul Byron is tied for 31st forward in the league for non-PP goals the past two seasons. That makes him easily a top 6 forward on a playoff team (96 spots). How many could he score playing with Malkin and/or Crosby?
Byron can break a game open for your team. Assuming he signs an extension, he will thrive in Pittsburgh. Maatta is solid, but not a game breaker. If Pittsburgh wants to win another Cup while Crosby and Malkin are still top players, Byron is definitely going to help. For Montreal, it is about getting the younger player.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 6, 2018 at 1:48 p.m.
Thread:
Pick up cap dump from TB
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeastModeUnknown</b></div><div>But I would not offer Foote in this deal. You overvalue the MTL players as most Montreal fans do</div></div>
You overvalue Foote. He is a potential good player but like any 19 year old it is just potential. $10M savings this year and $4M next year is real.
It's ok to turn down an offer. TB will still need to make cap room and there will be a price to pay with someone somewhere.
If Foote is dear to your heart, I valued Foote as the mid-round 1st that he was. Take out Foote and substitute the 2020 first if you like, which will be a late pick, so remove Vejdemo and insert a lower level prospect instead.
Another option is remove Foote and Callahan, and Hudon and Vejdemo.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 6, 2018 at 10:42 a.m.
Thread:
Pick up cap dump from TB
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeastModeUnknown</b></div><div>All in you are right but you left out 1 important detail. Foote doesn’t just get handed over. You gotta pay up for him.</div></div>
$14M is paying plenty, over two years, plus Vejdemo, a fairly good prospect himself.
Hudon for Callahan alone is a steal, so try to see all angles.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 6, 2018 at 7:25 a.m.
Thread:
Pick up cap dump from TB
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeastModeUnknown</b></div><div>You won’t get a 1st a 2nd and Foote for Complete garbage.</div></div>
True, but HELLO, it wasn't a 1st and 2nd and Foote. It was a 3RD and 2nd and Foote, huge difference!
Also, it is not "complete garbage" being sent to Tampa. Hudon already outproduces Callahan, Reilly will roughly compensate for Strahlman, Schlemko for Coburn, and Vejdemo is a B+ prospect who has played well against men in Europe.
Let's face it, the three roster players TB is sending out are their most overpaid, least productive players. What they are getting back is not worse, maybe better if Hudon continues to progress. Reilly has tools and could thrive learning from Hedman and McDonagh. Meanwhile the cap differential is almost $10M and rids TB of TWO years of Callahan.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 5, 2018 at 8:44 a.m.
Thread:
Get one young top 6 center and a LD to kick start the rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Goldendelicious</b></div><div>Patches and Juulsen for Maatta is too much. Habs need more coming back.
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I try to be fair in making trades. Several people have told me here and elsewhere that I have been too generous to Pittsburgh. I will sub Schlemko for Juulsen, thanks.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 5, 2018 at 8:42 a.m.
Thread:
Get one young top 6 center and a LD to kick start the rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Goldendelicious</b></div><div>Also why on earth would the Habs bring on Cam Talbot in the EDM trade? Lindgren is far more cost controlled and 6 years younger. Why would the Habs want to do that to pay a back-up 4.1m when they have 10m tied up in their starter? Even if he is in the final contract year, it makes no sense unless you could flip him for further assets. In that case, you're likely better hanging onto Lindgren as Talbot has not been stable enough.</div></div>
The idea is to give Edmonton the benefit of the cost difference between Talbot and Niemi, and the NHL readiness difference between Lindgren and Skinner. Edmonton sheds the excess salary being paid to RNH, while Scherbak and Lernout bring the benefit of cost controlled status for 4-5 years. All these benefits were offset against the 3rd rd pick, but I've removed the pick now to make the trade even more plausible.
Habs are going to need a backup for Price in 2019-20 no matter what, as Niemi also had only one year on his contract. Truth is these guys, the Montoyas, Talbots, Budajs and Niemis of the world are pretty interchangeable. One year a guy does great, another year not so great. Their inconsistency is why they are not true #1 starters. Edmonton just has the most cap invested in one.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 5, 2018 at 5:09 a.m.
Thread:
Get one young top 6 center and a LD to kick start the rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MelonVK</b></div><div>Put yourself in Edmonton's shoes. What do you do with those pieces? Why would Montreals spare parts have more value in Edmonton? Why would you give up actual useful players for them? Also nothing to replace either RNH or Talbot with. That's an awful trade with the pens aswell. Patches is probably a top 10 winger in this league making 4.5 mil, Määttä isn't even worth his contract, I wouldn't trade Juulsen alone for him if I was MTL. Why would Dallas pay a first for Paul Byron, a forward you can hardly fit in your own lineup, while they are better at forward? To get rid of Spezza so they can sign.. Oh wait there are no free agents left this year and his contract expires after this season.
You can't, for one second, have put yourself in the shoes of the other team in any of the trades. Except possibly the Pittsburgh one, but again - why would you ever.. I can't handle **** like this</div></div>
Thank you so much for the kind words!
I'm not going to argue with you or make melodramatic statements. I'll simply give you the thoughts behind my post.
Maatta is a talented young player that could benefit form playing with Shea Weber. Juulsen is more expendable to Montreal being on the right side.
Believe it or not, Paul Byron is tied for 32nd spot among all forwards in goal scoring when excluding power play goals the past two seasons. He has 40 and only 31 forwards have more non-PP goals in a 31 team league. That makes him a guy who can easily play on the top two lines of a playoff team (48 top line forwards on 16 playoff teams). His renowned speed breaks games from time to time. Montreal had no problem fitting him in the lineup, he never sat out once. It's just that he is so versatile that his role would change depending on the club's needs, but whatever was asked of him, he did super-well. GMs know this. A Byron re-signed for 2 years with production like his, at under $3M, is a valuable contract. And Spezza has negative trade value. Getting rid of his contract allows Dallas to move on Karlsson or do other things with their space.
Edmonton is getting more than spare parts. Lernout has made steady progress and can be a reliable bottom pairing guy very soon. Scherbak is a first-round pick, still on ELC, with offensive talent and his potential is well known to GMs. Talbot is way more expensive than Niemi, while Lindgren is more NHL ready than Skinner, so when the year is over, Edmonton has a guy who can play in the league, while the Habs take on the bigger salaries in this deal BY FAR.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 4, 2018 at 5:29 p.m.
Thread:
Bottom 5 team?
I would not move Jeff Petry, and certianly not in a package with Byron as I feel we could get more in two separate deals with different teams.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 3, 2018 at 12:32 p.m.
Thread:
A solid plan to load up on picks and truly rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BrandonMcD11</b></div><div>clear up cap and trade alzner and patches (5 time 30 goal scorer) for spezza (TERRIBLE contract) and kronwall? im confused as to what youre trying to accomplish here</div></div>
Patches and Alzner to SJ or another team that is all in for this year.
Other assets to Dallas and Detroit to take their one-year monster contracts.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 3, 2018 at 12:30 p.m.
Thread:
A solid plan to load up on picks and truly rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wojme</b></div><div>Sabres give up a second to get more cap? No thanks.</div></div>
Not just cap but save $10M
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2018 at 10:29 a.m.
Thread:
Buffalo asking price for ROR
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>MTL doesnt have a prospect Buffalo wants</div></div>
Alternatives to Scherbak: There is Juulsen, Hudon and maybe Lehkonen if we downgrade the 2nd rounder.
I'm actually pretty high on Nikita but if Buffalo isn't I have no issue keeping him and offering another player that works.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 25, 2018 at 1:24 p.m.
Thread:
CBJ FANS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Willian_Cardoso</b></div><div>Well, that's impossible to answer by myself, cause I'm not a Columbus member or player. But when I remember how hard for Kane was to lose him, I'm sure it's not a character problem. Probably Panarin is giving some signs that he'll want to test FA and the Jackets don't want to lose him for nothing.</div></div>
That's what I thought.
So when you consider the value of Gallagher versus Panarin, there is risk to Montreal of losing three years of Gallagher for one year of Panarin.
Also, Gallagher makes a lot less money than Panarin, even now. For $2.25M you can sign a pretty good player, so it is really 3 years of Gallagher at $3.75M (underpaying by at least $1M) plus another $2.25M player - for one year of Panarin and two years of $6M cap space.
To be honest, due to the possibility of Panarin bolting after one year, I'm not sure I would do a one-for-one Gallagher for Panarin if I'm the Montreal GM. I would have to know I can re-sign him first.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 25, 2018 at 11:39 a.m.
Thread:
CBJ FANS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Willian_Cardoso</b></div><div>What Columbus pay not means that was a fair and good trade from Chicago perspective. In fact, now we (and specially Kane) know that's a huge win by the Jackets. Ask for all Chicago fans what they think about it and I'm sure 10 of 10 of them are really pissed with their GM for make that bad move.
And if you think there's a character problem in Panarin, ask for Kane what he thought about that move. I remember pretty well when he told to the media that he didn't like to lose his best line mate. And it's pretty obvious why. Kane numbers playing alongside him were pretty amazing. He surpasses 100 points mark and he was even more dangerous that he's now, cause Panarin split some of their rivals attention with Kane, cause both are very talented players.
So, I'm still think Gallagher is not even close of Panarin's level yet. And probably won't be anytime.
PS: Panarin broke Nash points record in his first entire season playing for Columbus. He's by far the most dangerous Jackets player.</div></div>
Not a problem,, so why is Columbus reportedly considering dealing him? Because if they are not, then people should stop making offers.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 25, 2018 at 11:20 a.m.
Thread:
I Had MB Job
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SJCI</b></div><div>Honestly, that's a terrible deal for ROR. Shaw is a borderline 3rd liner with a high cap, Sabres don't need Lindgren, and a 2nd and 4th is laughable. I've seen so many offers with Lindgren and Shaw/Scherbak/Lehkonen that I'm guessing this is the new Halak + Ryder + 2nd...
Montreal could have gotten ROR with the #3 pick, but now with that and Galchenyuk gone, there really isn't anything the Habs can offer (that they'd trade) that makes it worth it. To get ROR, you'd have to give up 1 if not 2 pieces you really wouldn't want to trade</div></div>
How about next years 1st rounder plus either Lehkonen and Lernout, or Scherbak and Juulsen, while taking Moulson for Schlemko?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 25, 2018 at 10:19 a.m.
Thread:
A ROR deal proposed by a Sabre fan and shoring up the D
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>That Sabres fan should be glad he isn't our gm. Hard no</div></div>
Is choice of Lehkonen or Hudon a sufficient upgrade over Scherbak?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 25, 2018 at 10:18 a.m.
Thread:
A ROR deal proposed by a Sabre fan and shoring up the D
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>That Sabres fan should be glad he isn't our gm. Hard no</div></div>
Does picking up Moulson do anything for Buffalo?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 25, 2018 at 10:17 a.m.
Thread:
A ROR deal proposed by a Sabre fan and shoring up the D
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shifttee</b></div><div>Clear no from buffalo,
Also curious why David Perron only gets 3.75m he just had the best season of his career, and now he is gonna sign for the same salary? (sounds logical)</div></div>
A ton of assists during the regular season but slowed down in the playoffs and was a healthy scratch once. He is not consistent and never has been which is why he does not command an elite salary. Also, he is likely to slow down as he is now over 30.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 25, 2018 at 1:28 a.m.
Thread:
CBJ FANS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Architect</b></div><div>Brandon Saad. Not sure what else</div></div>
I would take Gallagher over Saad.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 25, 2018 at 12:42 a.m.
Thread:
CBJ FANS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Willian_Cardoso</b></div><div>I'm not a Jackets fan, but no way Gallagher has the same trade value of Panarin. Panarin is more talented player with more offensive production than Gallagher.
And don't tell me that's a fair trade just because Panarin is on his last year contract. Even in this situation, that's not enough for him.</div></div>
Well, maybe there is something about Panarin that makes him worth less than other 80 point players. What did Columbus pay to get him?
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2018 at 11:56 p.m.
Thread:
Habs s1 Gm game
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockey1033</b></div><div>It’s a gm game buddy</div></div>
OK, but the way I see it, if a team like Minnesota is in win-now mode, Bergevin coming and offering umpteen draft picks is not going to induce them to sell off Ryan Suter and Eric Staal. If you want to make a simple ffer for Coyle go for it, but Suter is not available for futures, I'm pretty sure.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2018 at 11:40 p.m.
Thread:
Montreal Canadiens my moves.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sens4life</b></div><div>A load of crapp doesn't get you the best defenseman in the world</div></div>
I normally scoff at trades of quantity for quality, but the Karlsson case is special. If Ottawa feels they will not re-sign him, then 3 years of Petry might be worth 1 year of Karlsson. Will someone else offer more than Petry? Maybe, but Lindgren is a little more, to start. The deal is not as nuts as it looks. With tweaks it could work.
Especially if you consider that Schlemko, while definitely low-value, is worth more than Ryan, who has NEGATIVE value.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2018 at 11:39 p.m.
Thread:
I hope he has a plan....
What is this obsession so many have with dumping Pacioretty for anything that moves?
If it's an intentional tank move, then at least I understand, but most of the moves I see fall into two extremes:
1. trades that yield a young star in return, cost controlled for many years, from a team that is not a contender that might want to take a risk to win now.
2. trades that just give him away
There is almost nothing I ever see in the middle, a trade with a logical partner for a player that the other team may be motivated to move.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2018 at 7:10 p.m.
Thread:
Just to inform everyone...Tavares IS coming to Ottawa!
You have Brady Tkachuk on the first line. He scored 8 goals last year in a weak college conference. What are you thinking?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2018 at 7:07 p.m.
Thread:
Habs 2018
I can't see Pittsburgh giving up Derrick Brassard whom they paid dearly for, for a second rounder and Daniel Carr. Carr is not yet an NHL regular at 26 years old. And Brassard only carries a $3M cap hit for them for a 21-goal, 46-point center.
Brassard is a good player and that is why you want him, but Pittsburgh thinks he's good too and they can afford him.
Also, why would a guy who can't make the NHL plus a 4th rounder get us an established NHL defender? If you think TVR is good, why does Carolina not agree?
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