Mar 20, 2019
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>Every fan base overvalues their own players. The Leafs are the most popular team in Canada and possible in Hockey period and a byproduct of that is they get a tonne of hate. Like how the Yankees are hated so much. And what happens (and you clearly are falling into the same mentality) is that fans of other teams get sick of hearing about the Leafs and now they have a negative emotional reaction to anything with the team. When that happens you undervalue. The reality is that the true value of the players is in the middle of what most fans on here say.
I am a Leaf fan, and definitely have a bias, but I am aware of it so I try to temper it as best I can. I am first and foremost a hockey fan, I watch it, I play it and I love it. Have my whole life. So when I look at a player, its generally with a large base of understanding of the game and I like to think I know where its going as well.
With all that said, I have watched Adam Larsson a lot over the years and I have never seen much. He isn't a top end shut down guy like many say he is. There is no proof of that, in fact last year when him and Nurse were the Oilers top pair, they were destroyed defensively. He's never been more than a #4 and at 27, he isn't going to all of a sudden develop a 2 way game. He's a supplementary defender that needs guys who can move the puck for him. That isn't exactly a valuable piece. Why people think so much of him is because a) he was a 1st rounder b) he was traded for hall and c) there are a tonne of people that think a guy who hits a lot is somehow really valuable.
Larsson is not worth much, never should have been and never will be. He's Radko Gudas, or a better Roman Polak.</div></div>
The different between yankees and even patriots vs the leafs is the they both win alot. WHich is why people hate them so much. The leafs havent won anything and havent even made it past the first round in like a decade?
Yet somehow most network guys have leaf players alot higher in rankings then they should be because it increase rankings and players get more hype because of leaf media is crazy. Marner is not top 5 winger. Mathews is not 6th best center Johnny T isnt 5th best center. But some NHL network thinks they are?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>Barrie has 7 of his 15 points in the past 12 games. I am sorry what were you saying about his point totals dropping after Keefe was hired?
Larsson isn't worth much, he has a perceived value of worth more a top 6 winger because he was once traded for Hall. Now Edmonton fans are desperate to recoup some of that lost value, unfortunately the reality is, Larsson just isn't that good and never has been and at 27 never will be. He is exactly what he is, a stay at home defenceman with average at best underlying numbers and a player who was completely destroyed last year when he was asked to play top line minutes against top players. With the emergence of Bear, why wouldn't edmonton try to use what value he has to upgrade the massive blackhole they have on the depth. Larsson is a non factor for Edmonton, they've actually been a worse team since he came back, I don't blame him for that but its a reality. Kapanen still has his best hockey ahead of him and in TO, he'll never be more than a 3rd liner and likely just a 20+, 40+ point player. Which on a 3rd line is fantastic. I feel paring him with a fast play making centre and more minutes he's probably going to be a 30+ goal scorer and 60+ point guy several times. Larsson, will be exactly what he is. So trading a better Roman Polak isn't going ever get you a high potential player in return.</div></div>
Barrie has 3 points in the last 9 games.