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Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 20 at 2:33 a.m.
Thread:
Out of the box
Don't see why Los Angeles or Seattle would do those deals.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 20 at 2:22 a.m.
Thread:
California Dreaming
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>Certainly dreaming
We aren’t giving up anywhere near that for a Marner rental</div></div>
Let's be honest, if Marner went to Anaheim, he wouldn't be a rental. Trading for him without a contract negotiated ahead of time makes zero sense.
So it would be assumed that Marner gets extended her.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 20 at 2:05 a.m.
Thread:
California Dreaming
Certainly dreaming
We aren’t giving up anywhere near that for a Marner rental
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 19 at 4:08 p.m.
Thread:
Holtz to Habs
Nygard climbing up the charts
Would not take a long time before he's playing
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 19 at 4:12 p.m.
Thread:
Holtz to Habs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smitty426</b></div><div>Nygard climbing up the charts
Would not take a long time before he's playing</div></div>
If we move back to 13-16 maybe. At 10, would still be holding for Dickinson, Catton, Buium, etc
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Armchair-GM
May 19 at 2:52 p.m.
Thread:
Holtz to Habs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>MTL says sure
RS isnt ideal but if the return is Holtz i think Hughes listens for sure.
I'd rather keep our assets and avoid making moves until this time next years after many UFA's leave.
Acquiring people before the Roster was formed was what lead to the Anderson predicament we're in now
That said Its not like Holtz is in a position to need any major contract for at least a few years so the timeline we RS will not be paying him as much and are likely to give him term around or after RS ends
Really i dont see a downside outside timing of it.</div></div>
The Dvorak piece was the biggest question mark for me. I don’t know if they have incentive to remove him from roster or not, but it fit, so I included him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 19 at 2:50 p.m.
Thread:
Holtz to Habs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NARC311</b></div><div>They moved both those guys while they were old and had only a year or two left on their contract.
Barbashev does not fit that bill. There would be a bidding war for him if he was made available.</div></div>
No, Barbashev doesn’t really fit that bill, but I am trying to be optimistic. I read somewhere that Howden and McNabb are likely the two that get moved for cheap…and I bet NJD would have interest in both guys. That is the more likely route.
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Armchair-GM
May 19 at 2:39 p.m.
Thread:
Holtz to Habs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Meant to be cap move…like how they dumped Pacioretty in 2022 or Smith in 2023. All things being equal, his is worth more.</div></div>
They moved both those guys while they were old and had only a year or two left on their contract.
Barbashev does not fit that bill. There would be a bidding war for him if he was made available.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 19 at 2:36 p.m.
Thread:
Holtz to Habs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NARC311</b></div><div>Not close for Barbashev</div></div>
Meant to be cap move…like how they dumped Pacioretty in 2022 or Smith in 2023. All things being equal, his is worth more.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 19 at 2:31 p.m.
Thread:
Holtz to Habs
Not close for Barbashev
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 16 at 8:47 a.m.
Thread:
cupping
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>Where?
Marner got a pretty good return i think
There's Robertson for a 2nd that seems about right
MTL wants none of your 4th liners or banged up RD
TBH they might get claimed on waivers after the season starts.
But the first few months no ones touching any of them
Jarnkroks a good Bottom 6 Vet but thats really it consistently.
Kampf is someone every team has 2-3 of and atleast 1 of them they're afraid to lose on waivers.
They are good for Trade to help make Cap work though for a bigger trade</div></div>
Trading for goalies is dumb, because they have almost no trade value. I'd rather sign a FA to tandem with Woll and sacrifice .005 Sv% and 0.05 in GAA than trade our best asset for Saros at 5M. You shouldn't spend more than ~6M on goalies in most cases
And why trade Robertson? He's a great scoring winger who's an RFA and cheap. Keep him
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 16 at 1:27 a.m.
Thread:
cupping
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JamieG613</b></div><div>Just ship all our good players out for nothing! Great idea!</div></div>
who are the "good players" you're referring to here?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 15 at 9:18 p.m.
Thread:
Surprise last year of misery
Trading established nhl players for prospects is a never a good idea. Huge pass. Plus Iginla and Lindstrom definitly dont play next season so the forward core is gonna suck.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 15 at 9:12 p.m.
Thread:
Surprise last year of misery
Hawks will keep dach. Nothing of interest in that offer
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 15 at 7:16 p.m.
Thread:
cupping
PIT counters with picking him up off waivers..... maybe
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 14 at 11:04 a.m.
Thread:
If another round 2 exit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div></div>
KK wanted Term , MB said no and made a take it or leave it offer.
Carolina's New Owner after CAR trades were shut down said Offer Sheet Kotkanemi 1 year deal which MB reportedly wouldnt offer as kk would be arbitration eligible then.
KK was pissed about being replaced by Suzuki and being stuck behind Danault 100%
That doesnt mean he leaves like he did if Marc just offered him the 1 year to get to arbitration or the term he asked for.
No where did i read KK was asking for a Trade, he wasnt
He was just noticeable annoyed with our Coach first and foremost
We were out matched , no way we could win with Evan in over KK it was a lateral move at best.
Given we fired the same coach cause of his issues with Caufield among others , i wouldnt slant it all on KK
He wasnt a Problem child with a bad attitude like Ryan Poehling or Michael McCarron
He was a kid who just played all 3 years of his ELC Pro after Debuting at what 18 or 19?
He left too early and had he not gone via Offer sheets and stayed he coulda been traded later.
In making this move he was 30 some games removed from being able to work with MSL without Danault in his path.
I get the instinct is to blame KK but the fans loved him and his goofy ass interviews.
They only turned sour when he left after a ECF run where we lost so much already to injuries both short term and career ending as well as to UFA status.
I get why fans are mad at KK but really Marc Bergavin was that bad and on his 1 real build since 2012 as he coasted on Gaineys players until 2017
Thats when he started to lay his foundation with a restaff of virtually all Development and Draft departments.
Thats when success began to be seen.
Issue is losing your #3 OA pick after a ECF where you benched him for a semi concussed 7th round pick Center is a hard blunder to explain away cause your right that moment replacing him with Evans in the SCF games was likely the thing that made him thing "Offer sheets is an option now" as most draft picks feel a certain amount of loyalty especially during their ELC's
MB made some bad moves and worse signings so he had to go.
He may be able to find the youth but he cant develop them worth a crap as they only began to flourish once Coach Nicholas was Hired.
Who hired Coach Nicholas again ?
I truly believe if MB was fired the previous year or during it that KK would still be in MTL thriving under MSL
That said im glad he didnt as it would have cost us Slafkovsky in the end who i much prefer</div></div>
Management and KK are to blame. KK acted like a child at a time where he was about to get handed 2C duties, Bergevin screwed his development and the fans got sour when it was apparent KK wanted out and Bergevin was happy to oblige.
I don't think KK was ever going to thrive, the team reached when the drafted him and it looks like they were right to move on.
I don't think blame lays on one party or the other, it's a two way street but in the end it was a waste of a high draft pick and that will always irritate fans
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 14 at 7:12 a.m.
Thread:
If another round 2 exit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>TBH Utah's New Owners have a different idea on how to build so Armstrong will be dealing a lot of assets he built up.
Utah isnt looking for a 4-5 year rebuild they want to use the assets they have piled up like VGK did post expansion draft
For that reason would Kuz make more sense with Necas in that package?
I'd argue KK fits CHI build timeline and gives them a reliable 3rd line Center for Faceoffs with potential to move up.
KK has a positive and sarcastic attitude that went over quite well in MTL and now in CAR. I dont blame him for quitting on Bergavin after he big timed him like he did Lehkonen, Radulov, Markov, ext
Our GM basically went "take it or leave it , what are you gonna do " on a low ball offer cause KK wasnt Arbitration eligible
So KK signed an offer sheet and left , i woulda too
So Attitude shouldnt be an issue for CHI there .
ARZ i think they want more to make an impact statement straight out the gate and a package with Necas and Kuz i think does that.
Kuz attitude will be driving one of the most losing franchises in history to help them turn the page in their 3rd City now after WPG and ARZ failed causing relocations.
He'll have 1 year to prove he's this teams William Karlsson or Marchessault but worse case scenario he's a rather cheap rental given the package. So win win
Cap shouldnt be an issue i dont think
Before the sale of the Team and the interview with the Owners i wouldnt think Kuz to a team like ARZ or even Utah would make sense.
But if they're only half as aggressive as VGK was then this would be far from their last move
Honestly i kinda see them targeting Ullmark to make a splash</div></div>
Yes, I know Utah ownership wants to change the direction of that team, but I'd like to consider a few things, such as
- possibility of players not being happy to move from Arizona to Utah, therefore potentially requesting trades to get a fresh start (granted Utah is also a fresh start so sucks for them who wanted to stay in desert lmao)
- ability to gain players to build around that are either already signed long term from the get-go or RFAs lined up for long-term extension (Necas, Kotkaniemi in this example)
- ability to use the stacked amount of futures they already have to better the team overall
I think Utah team will look a lot different from the Arizona team, with also some of the core players likely to change scenery...maybe. It's all what ifs at this point.
In my honest opinion, no competitive team should touch Kuznetsov, but there's no doubt in my mind some GM will be dumb enough to do so at "correct" price. This makes it a valid reason for Hawks to try that gamble...but I do agree that it makes sense for them to target KK as well. I do think tho that KK has more trade value than Kuzy, so direct swapping doesn't work.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 14 at 6:33 a.m.
Thread:
If another round 2 exit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>TBH Utah's New Owners have a different idea on how to build so Armstrong will be dealing a lot of assets he built up.
Utah isnt looking for a 4-5 year rebuild they want to use the assets they have piled up like VGK did post expansion draft
For that reason would Kuz make more sense with Necas in that package?
I'd argue KK fits CHI build timeline and gives them a reliable 3rd line Center for Faceoffs with potential to move up.
<em>KK has a positive and sarcastic attitude that went over quite well in MTL and now in CAR. I dont blame him for quitting on Bergavin after he big timed him like he did Lehkonen, Radulov, Markov, ext
Our GM basically went "take it or leave it , what are you gonna do " on a low ball offer cause KK wasnt Arbitration eligible
So KK signed an offer sheet and left , i woulda too
</em>
Just wanted to comment on this KK blurb, that's not what happened. He turned cry baby when he got healthy scratched in the Stanley cup finals for Staal and asked to be moved out that off season. Bergevin said he wasn't trading him, offered him a fair 3 million bridge deal, Carolina offered to trade for him but werent willing to meet what I'm going to guess was a high price by Bergevin so Carolina and KK decided to force Bergevins hand.
KK was positive but he also thought he deserved more than he did. I get why he would think that since MTL rushed his development and got him thinking he was going to be important. In the end though he wanted out because he thought MTL should have played him more, not because Bergevin low balled him</div></div>
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 6 at 8:27 a.m.
Thread:
Caps
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>Cool
How much for Ovi then ?
Or are you resigned to be the most hated Franchise in the world for wasting his final years?
He's trying to do great things and if WSH isnt , its not fair to hold him there for a Tank after all</div></div>
He doesn't want to be traded. He came out and said that after the playoff loss. Personally if he wanted to go to a different team for his final years (if the package were in the Caps favor) I would do it for him. But he literally just said he wants to finish his NHL career with the Capitals and then play a season in Russia for the Dynamo.
Additionally, keeping our firsts and seconds is not tanking. Selling the guys over 25 and getting futures is tanking so you are not correct with saying the capitals are tanking by being smart with their future options for when Ovi does indeed retire.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 5 at 12:08 a.m.
Thread:
Next season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigBadBurke</b></div><div>LAK are not retaining on dubois for 7yrs, and if they do retain, its not going to be just 650k and that return.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>MTL isnt taking on that Problem Child to more 1 year of Dvo at 4.5m
To take PLD's contract i'd want more then LAK will give
Let them live with a buyout one his NMC kicks in and handcuffs LAK</div></div>
Your right :squintytongue
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 4 at 9:56 p.m.
Thread:
PLD not happy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>Pass
Andersons Buyout is super cheap after next year
He's just as inconsistent as PLD just at a lower level for his ceiling and floor.
But both were developed in CBJ at the same time and both have big holes in their games
If we were talking Gally i might feel different but Andersons Buyout is ideal for us when we need it.
Anderson may be struggling but he's a positive in the locker room and backs the Captain 100%
PLD cant say that</div></div>
I'm utterly pessimistic on our chances of trading DuBois.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 4 at 9:29 p.m.
Thread:
PLD not happy
I don't think that any Los Angeles fan believes that right now, DuBois is worth more than the unproductive cap dump and the Calgary-to-be-the-Florida first.
The article suggests that the best course of action for Los Angeles is to trade DuBois. Nothing in that article suggests that DuBois himself is unhappy; in fact, DuBois himself, in an interview this week, has said that he's unhappy with himself, not with Los Angeles. There's a significant difference.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 4 at 9:13 p.m.
Thread:
PLD not happy
Huge over pay for the Canadians. Dubois wasn't happy in Columbus, Dubois wasn't happy in Winnipeg, Dubois isn't happy in LA. Next it'll be Dubois isn't happy in Montreal.
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Armchair-GM
May 4 at 5:46 p.m.
Thread:
Habs management dream scenario
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>You realize that the Dach & Newhook contracts will be over and Beck out of his ELC by the time Iginla or Sennecke sniff the NHL.</div></div>
think youre missing the OP's point... he's saying that habs nab tij in top-10 and beckett with WPG's top-24 pick, which in all likelihood is probable
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 3 at 5:47 p.m.
Thread:
Need your thoughts - MTL NYI TBL CAR BOS NSH OTT Fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>Based on What Factual Statement or Logic?
Kaliyev and Savard share Agents and Kent has dealt with him on Ylonen and Stephens deals.
He fits and is from that 2019 Draft Hughes has targeted since arriving
Personally i like Kaliyev and what he brings.
I mean its easy to write him off but lets remember Racist Coach Claude Julien inherited a team with 9 Russian and in 16 months had 0
He took Radulov off the top line putting Gallagher up top and demoted Chucky to 3rd line LW right out the gate replacing them with Canadians
Its not unheard of and if you look at LAK Roster since Jim Hiller was promoted from Assistant to a Coach the LAK leaned harder into North American Players Big Time
Kaliyev isnt some crap player no one likes
He's a 22 year old 4th year Pro who put up 14-15 goals a year before Hiller
Clearly Hiller for him is the issue here even though Hiller brings out the best in others he screws Kaliyev
Easy solution? Trade LAK a North American Player like Harris or someone else in a trade deal either 1 for 1 or in a bundle.</div></div>
FWIW, Kaliyev is American in all but birth. Born in Uzbekistan but moved to Long Island when he was a toddler and grew up in NY.
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