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Birtle34
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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Thu. at 4:13 p.m.
Thread:
Major Shake Up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>I’m a jets fan, so I understand, but ny or la stories like that probably don’t come near the radar.</div></div>
i disagree. take LA, i think if PLD all of a sudden sold his place in LA, it would be a story and you would see speculation that he intends to leave LA/request another trade. This is just sports journalists, they love making mountains out of molehills. Similar to where you see stories of young guys moving from their apartment near the arena to buying their own place is a sign they are sticking around.
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 3:53 p.m.
Thread:
Major Shake Up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>If you could clear the 8.7 and have an exciting ufa add to offset the negative of losing the value, might be interesting, but ya tough to speculate on what swings the deal and what comes back In cap. Gaudreau came to town, but will be interesting if he’s an anomaly or a trend. Always seem to pull for the underdog teams in sports until there good, then there off the radar lol. Big patriots fan for first championship, then moved on lol</div></div>
like i said i think the only way Laine is moved this offseason is if he comes back and demands a trade.
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 3:44 p.m.
Thread:
Major Shake Up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>I was more on the trying to get laine out of town, but ya awfully tough on the value, and how bad or good that could turn on the ice. New gm might get a free pass, but probably doesn’t include the 27million of skinner on the return.</div></div>
oh yeah Laine is the tougher one cause we dont know when/if he will be back. If he does come back does he want to stay here or go somewhere else? just a lot of unknowns. His value is at its absolute lowest right now, so i think our new gm would realize there isnt much benefit to us to trade him at this low value. We are better off hoping he can regain some value or become a productive member of our lineup.
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 3:37 p.m.
Thread:
Major Shake Up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Not even a sneak it past the new gm with some shiny prospects and picks. Leave the contract dump till later in the conversation lol</div></div>
a new gm coming in and trading Jenner would be the dumbest move he could make. The fans would instantly hate them, you would see people demanding they be fired before the season even gets started.
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 3:33 p.m.
Thread:
Major Shake Up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Jenner/laine for both packages, gives you a 2 year trial over 6 years of kadri, would be interesting what Columbus says?</div></div>
Jackets easily say no. Jenner is not available and trading Laine at his lowest value makes no sense unless he comes out with a trade demand.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 15 at 12:24 p.m.
Thread:
A real hockey trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>I’m a jets fan, there’s quite a drop off and hole if ehlers moved, not a lot of speed to replace him. Monahan and Toffoli could be lost also, and Connor a year away from potentially walking, so definitely a need to add to competition in top 6. Not vital to make this move work, but a need none the less.</div></div>
I mean yeah, Fetts is slow. Lambert, Barlow, and McGroarty are all either ready or 1-2 years away. The hope is that if KFC is gonna walk, the Jets get a good return for him.
I feel like this trade needs to be a Goldilocks scenario for both teams. I know the Jets would have to re-sign and not re-sign a very specific set of guys for it to work.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 14 at 11:16 p.m.
Thread:
3 way with Utah
My assumption is if Keller is traded, it will be for a collection of players as opposed to picks. Utah is going to be a massive wild card. They could conceivably trade picks for a lot of pending free agents as well
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 13 at 6:16 p.m.
Thread:
No Longer Homeless and Broke
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Watch them go splashing to the deep part of the pool and go get a guentzel or reinhart, along with a shiny dman or too, ufas pilgrimage to Utah to find some gold.</div></div>
Lots of talent on that team.
A few good trades and/or signings could make them a contender.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 1 at 4:32 p.m.
Thread:
Nothing will change
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Not saying it would be easy, probably take a cap dump of skinner to possibly the ducks and ride out that 27 million, along with some cap for cap, with cozens 42 million going the other way, just to find draisaitle 100 million. IMO he’s what is needed to, tending starting to come together, blueline needs some experience, but the talent is there, just need that elite 1c,</div></div>
Thompson is the one guy who isn’t an issue at his position. Guy has played hurt all year, still has strong underlying numbers.
The Sabres aren’t anywhere near in a position to pay that much for anyone. They nickel and dimed all their best guys to avoid giving out bonus heavy deals. Even if Adams was the best gm ever and could get rid of skinners deal, ownership isn’t paying draisaitl period
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 28 at 6:16 a.m.
Thread:
Huge trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Ah fair enough, I’m trying to stay out of that troll category for my jets. Just so want that cup to reference for the next 20 years after, then possibly do it again, maybe one don’t want to get greedy lol.</div></div>
I'm not a troll. I'm sick of losing and blame ownership. I've made hundreds of real AGMs.
We havent made the playoffs since 2010-11
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 27 at 10:15 p.m.
Thread:
Huge trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Ducks have a cup, one cup by my jets and I would accept and not complain about hockey purgatory/hell for life. Trade remotely competitive for one cup. Not sure our fan base even thinks it’s possible</div></div>
Nothing against the Ducks at all
This poster is supposedly a Sabres fan who does nothing but Troll the team he’s a “fan” of
Total loser
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 27 at 9:26 p.m.
Thread:
Huge trade
Arizona counters by sending you future considerations for Terry Pegula and Land Development, no salary retained
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 27 at 9:25 p.m.
Thread:
Huge trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Messing up bills too? Seems like a mass exodus there too</div></div>
The bills are fine
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 16 at 5:39 p.m.
Thread:
deam roster
I'd keep Connor over Laine at this point.
Perfetti at 1C? The Perfetti at 2C experiment failed this year and he is struggling to get into the lineup.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 8 at 11:34 p.m.
Thread:
Woooo
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>
...
Lots of interesting players got selected after Perfetti, wonder what us Jets fans are going to be thinking about his selection at 10th overall in a couple years.. 🤔</div></div>
At least it will never be as bad as the first round of the 2015 draft that haunts some Bruins fans. Its a low hurdle to clear, but I'll take it. ;)
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 8 at 11:29 p.m.
Thread:
Woooo
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Canoehead</b></div><div>The only upside is that the Jets were able to be a bit more aggressive with the cap as Perfetti's cold streak probably means he will miss alot of bonus targets. This two month cold streak of 2 points in 20 games is brutal (he started with 29 points in 40 games).</div></div>
Holy **** what a drop off in production 😳
In lots of the TSN broadcasts of late Dan Robertson has dropping little tidbits about many of these guys going cold over quite a long stretch of games, not sure if he'd mentioned Perfetti though.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 8 at 11:21 p.m.
Thread:
Woooo
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>A little heavier petan, possibly biased but never been a big fan of his skills. Skilled offensive players better have a cannon if they aren’t fast, at absolute best a poor man’s nugent Hopkins, but that is probably reaching.</div></div>
I've heard he's kind of a pudgy little dude, he probably needs an intense summer of training and bulking up, needs to work on his speed too.
To Perfetti's credit he does try to drive past dmen to the net sometimes and goes to the corners/net front but he just gets tossed around more often then not.
The Petan comparison is a good one, neither guy lacks for hockey IQ, both are excellent passers, playmaker types but both are small, slow, sluggish skaters. Both were centers in junior but are converted to wingers at the NHL level, if the Jets wanted them to be centers they certainly didn't do a good job developing either in the AHL for that role. Both are too small and slow to be effective centers in the NHL.
Agree that skilled players better have a cannon shot or something that separates them from the rest like being super fast. I'm trying to think of a smaller, skilled winger who's more of a playmaker then goal scorer, Zuccarello maybe? A guy like Zuccarello is quicker, stronger and has more jam then Perfetti seems to.
Lots of interesting players got selected after Perfetti, wonder what us Jets fans are going to be thinking about his selection at 10th overall in a couple years.. 🤔
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 8 at 11:09 p.m.
Thread:
Woooo
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>For sure, not writing him off by any means, just a little disappointed with the 10 oa pick and lack of production.</div></div>
The only upside is that the Jets were able to be a bit more aggressive with the cap as Perfetti's cold streak probably means he will miss alot of bonus targets. This two month cold streak of 2 points in 20 games is brutal (he started with 29 points in 40 games).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 8 at 10:38 p.m.
Thread:
Woooo
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Agreed, think his saving grace at the moment is price and team control, could see him getting passed on depth chart, with some of the kids coming.</div></div>
As of right now after the Toffoli acquisition and when everyone is healthy, Perfetti is a healthy scratch imo.
He was doing nothing on the 2nd line, wouldn't fit in the Lowry line and isn't suitable for a 4th line role, a Barron Namestnikov-Iaffalo line will likely be more productive and effective then any of them would be with Perfetti on the line.
I'm sure he'll be a good player but I don't see a long term fit for him in Winnipeg, would be trying to package him up for a upgrade on the blueline.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 8 at 10:31 p.m.
Thread:
Woooo
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Probably half a year of humbling for mcgroarty and moose training, I wonder what Toffoli price is going forward, underrated goal scorer that has been missing since laine left. Will be interesting also what moose are ready to come up and help.</div></div>
I agree that some time in the AHL would serve McGroarty well like Copp and Connor.
Even if Michigan goes to the NCAA finals, McGroarty would have the chance to play an NHL game to burn the first year of his ELC. I could see the Jets using that promise to get him to turn pro (similar to Copp who played one game at the end of the 14-15 season). Then they can have him join the Moose for the AHL playoffs if they make it and/or tag along with the Jets when the Moose season is over.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 28 at 10:35 a.m.
Thread:
Last push before relocation
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Simple math on this also, ownership investment from rink/condos/cut from shark club, and whatever else they have downtown, simply doesn’t overly work without the 40 dates a year jets. But let’s say they put the team on the market to be moved, league isn’t going to allow Quebec City period, only option is probably North Toronto new rink, but between Ottawa, and Toronto, that wouldn’t be allowed either. So for the sale route, min price would be a billion, move it to a location with a newish rink, probably another 1/2 billion. 1/2 billion into the club, sitting there with a 2 billion ish investment and what cities evaluation going to ensure at least a 2 plus billion evaluation? Along with the fact that all the other owners much prefer splitting 3/4 of a billion expansion fee over any relocations. Owners better not cry wolf too many times, but this one may work, as long as they make some changes along with the corporate crowd, got to toughen up that ticket, instead of such a soft ticket, never should have killed the secondary market, and some of the other markets that could prop up the demand on tickets when it is lagging. From a die hard jets fan</div></div>
You said everything that needs to be said. I’m just worried about Houston. They have a multimillionaire owner of their NBA team who is on record as meeting with the league and wanting a team. They could go to two more expansion teams between Houston and Salt Lake or they could move Arizona to one and the Jets to the other.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 27 at 9:28 p.m.
Thread:
Last push before relocation
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Possibly so much riffraff downtown security has to deal with, that they don’t seem to have much sense of humor, or tolerance for anything at all. Tough to question, but just seems to need more of a welcoming atmosphere and not such a get every last dollar possible. Got to get a little more creative with give aways and thankful for the fans. A little too taken for granted, but a work in progress that can be fixed.</div></div>
I remember one game in the early years, that they gave out bags of tim horton's ground coffee as you left the building. :D
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 27 at 9:07 p.m.
Thread:
Last push before relocation
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Always get a weird vibe in Winnipeg barn, seen games in Calgary/edmonton/vegas/arizona/Chicago/minneapolis and Winnipeg is the only barn that makes it feel like they are doing you a favour to let you in. Some of the other rinks seem a little more entertained to see you. Possibly all in my head, but now that I have read some of the fan complaints, it kind of dons on me, the differences.</div></div>
The vibe is like you are going through an airport built in the 40s. Very utilitarian... get in the building, get a coffee, find your seat, watch.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 27 at 8:03 p.m.
Thread:
This is probably close to what the Sens would want for Tkachuk
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Ya good young rd definitely a need in Winnipeg also.</div></div>
Pretty much everywhere . I’d trade Tkachuk for Nemec straight up
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 27 at 7:49 p.m.
Thread:
This is probably close to what the Sens would want for Tkachuk
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Perfetti, prospect, mtl 2nd, conditional first, with some cap, damn the jets could use a little spice up front with some term. Expensive swing that could blow up in there face, but also could be the difference. I wonder if his grandparents could convince him to be happy to be in Winnipeg.</div></div>
Perfetti is good but needs a strong piece as the 2nd piece one for sure and you don’t have a good young RD
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