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Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 12:57 pm
Thread: Bortuzzo
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>come on now. I've seen players in almost every game of hockey cross check someone already on the ground. Including blue jacket players.
You got guys who run players head first into the boards who get get a handful of games. Some don't even get suspended. How many games did Wilson get for knocking Wennberg out the playoffs head first into the boards. 0. Hell he ain't been the same player since. I don't think anyone is going to argue that either.
So it is what it is. I'm not saying the league shouldn't take tough measures against things. But they got way more vicious stuff to look at than a cross check to a guy who's trying to get up.</div></div>

Are you serious? and I totally agree Wilson got more then a handful of passes with his head shots in the playoffs, going back to the Pittsburgh series before. Every game he was taking cheap shots in against someone, and not called.
Arvidsson is out 4-6 weeks. The suspension should fit the injury caused to the other team. I'm not saying 1 for 1 games, but at least if you put someone out for 4-6 weeks, you should at least miss more than 3 games.
Todd Bertuzzi put Steve Moore out of the game with a cross check to the back (albeit he also fell full weight on top of him). But if you are going to review supplemental discipline, make it not only punitive (punishable for the current infraction), but put others on notice to try and deter others down the road.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 12:46 pm
Thread: If they rebuilt last summer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Barbs</b></div><div>Jarmo will forever have my respect for going all in at last years deadline when he was placed in that situation with two star pending UFAs with a good team poised to go deep. The cupboard may be bare but he took his shot when he had the absolute best opportunity to do so and as a fan that's all you can ask for in the salary cap era.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>Absolutely, and if he had sold cheap, instead, in a low, low market, this year would be just about the same, but with a better backup goalie keeping him from landing a top five pick to build around.</div></div>

I'm not sure I really agree with the decisions that were made.
WHAT IF....Davidson convinced him on to do it, or at the very least offered his utmost support to Jarmo, or even just subtly influenced him in any way to do it, knowing full well he was going to bolt to a division rival NYR, and ultimately leaving the cupboard bare for us. One less team Davidson has to worry about in the immediate future.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 24 at 8:22
Thread: Bortuzzo
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>I don’t mind the first cross check - and if arviddson was standing up, I wouldn’t care because he would probably end up retaliating and it would be fair game. Cross checking when someone is down in a vulnerable position is a coward move.

I’m still a big fan of fighting and violence in the game, but bortuzzo crossed a line.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>of course he did, that's the point. He wanted to draw someone to retaliate so he isn't sitting in the box alone. But no one came sticking up for his teammate and took the bait. Don't take the bait, take the hit. Strategy as old as hockey.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MikeyThePensFan</b></div><div>He also did that to Malkin last season. Geno said "I will meet him in the cup finals."</div></div>

The sad part is, the refs only called 2 min penalty because the Preds were already on a 2 min power play at the time of this incident. He should have received 2 for cross check and a match penalty.
Plain and simple. Officials are too lax in calling games in the new NHL. Just a theory, but I suspect they are being trained by the NHL to keep games as close as possible for the benefit of the teams. The closer the teams are to the playoff bar at seasons end, the more meaningful games there are, the higher the attendance, the more TV revenue is made. There are more OT and shootout games now than ever before. It’s the officials causing this.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep 30 at 9:55
Thread: Pens should have just bought him out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CrossFireX33</b></div><div>Still a cap hit that most teams don't need (and there's no guaruntee that Seatle will take him. Also teams need actual defensemen not players who are horrible at defense, unless pittsburgh really makes it worth their while, I see no reason a team would take the cap hit.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>you aren't selling 4 years, you are selling 2. And it doesn't even have to be 3+, he can be sent down to AHL for 2 million.
2x2 if there is no need for him.
You act like it's an arm and a leg.
You have listened to too many internet trolls.
There are reasons there are multiple teams willing to trade for him. 1st teams have need for defense and it's always in demand. Second is the salary isn't all that bad for the risk.
They swallow 2 years, one way or another. He goes to Seattle, Seattle buys him out at 1 mil a year for 4 years and gets a pick to keep off the other teams players.
It's not rocket science. People make this more than it is.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hockeyfanatic05</b></div><div>lmao what are you talking about teams interested in trading for him? There has been zero serious interest</div></div>

The facts speak for themself. Columbus has gotten fairly adept at scouting, drafting, and talent management over the last few years, and they gave up on Jack Johnson for a reason. They could see his decline in the last 2 years of his CBJ contract, and Columbus also has a glut of NHL capable defensemen now (in my opinion, CBJ should and probably will be trading 1 or 2 this upcoming season). But back to JJ,
I really like the guy, and he did have some difficult personal problems in the recent past, but Pittsburgh never should have signed him. Even Adam McQuaid was still out there at the time and was/is unsigned. He would have been a better option. But paying someone to take Jack Johnson off your hands would be too expensive, especially for a Pittsburgh team that really needs draft picks since their core group of players are reaching the peak of their playing career (aging rapidly).
Carrying a $1M+ buyout charge for 8 years is nothing in today's NHL (relative to paying someone to take him), especially for a team like Pittsburgh that has the attendance and the money to absorb it.
Even teams that are desperate for quality D men haven't acted yet, because they know that JJ is more of a liability than an asset on the ice.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep 27 at 10:08
Thread: LINEUP BY MIDYEAR
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JarmoK</b></div><div>Lol this is moronic. No way you’re a real CBJ fan</div></div>

LOL. Real fan. Here from day one. Moved to Columbus Dec. 1997. From DC area. First hockey game was in 1975 in Landover MD, watching a new expansion Washington Capitals team crap all over themselves their first year in existence.
There is too much youth, too inexperienced goaltending, and too much pressure on the veterans. Torts has already stressed they will be collapsing into a defense first mode to protect the goaltenders. This will hamstring both the vets and the rookies, and goals for will very low this year.
Until the young guns start scoring. And they realize they have to open play back up.
Look at Minnesota, this is their model of play, since day one. Very defensive oriented, not very fun to watch, and only moderately successful in making the playoffs.
But hey, I will continue to watch and support, because it’s what I’ve done for the last 2 decades.