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Armchair-GM
12 hours ago
Thread:
Summer fun
If they are trading batherson they need a good futures return imo, so like young NHL players under team control, or quality picks and prospects. Jensen and Milano are good now pieces, but I think trading batherson means they decide to re-tool long-term around Pinto-Stuzle-sanderson-greig so not sure we should be valuing win-now pieces in a trade for him
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Armchair-GM
13 hours ago
Thread:
A Karlsson Trade
this is a tough one. Obviously the norris contract comes with some pretty significant risk given his shoulder issues, but if he can ever shake those off this is a ton to give up for EK imo
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Armchair-GM
13 hours ago
Thread:
i am predicting the comments now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tchuckycheese</b></div><div>why do you want smith?</div></div>
i guess it doesnt have to be him in specific. any veteran mid 6/third liner would do the trick
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Armchair-GM
Sat. at 9:33 p.m.
Thread:
i am predicting the comments now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Byrr</b></div><div>It probably happens as a trade rather than an offer sheet. Vegas is actually rather comfortable cap wise this offseason with around 14 mil and a roster of 18. Even if they spend a little over half of that on Hanifin, its just a lot of room left.</div></div>
quick google check has them at 9 million in cap, assuming they are also going to re-sign marchessault there’s not a lot of wiggle room. A second round pick is probably a pretty good value for him i’d imagine anyway
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Armchair-GM
Sat. at 9:09 p.m.
Thread:
i am predicting the comments now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Byrr</b></div><div>2,750,000 is just a really easy offer sheet for any team to match in the offseason.</div></div>
i would push it over 3.5 million easy. i wasn’t sure how easily they would match with him being their #4 RD
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 3:59 p.m.
Thread:
he has to go blud
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fox_Czar_Cup</b></div><div>Ya, VGK are not shedding a beast bottom D plus another one, on the cheap for a rental D that's not even better. Especially if they re-sign Hanifin, they'd rather not pay Chychrun's new retirement contract</div></div>
I mean I like hague and korczack but chychrun is definitely better with a track record of being better
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 2:27 p.m.
Thread:
he has to go blud
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>ya, OTT is not trading chych for spare parts</div></div>
spare parts is an extremely loose definition
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 2:26 p.m.
Thread:
he has to go blud
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OwnGoal</b></div><div>If they trade with Vegas I would circle Keegan Kolesars name. That guy is a hitting machine soemthing the Sens lack outside of Tkachuck really.</div></div>
i could see that
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 2:09 p.m.
Thread:
he has to go blud
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SadSensFan14</b></div><div>Exactly.</div></div>
what more would you think is required if they did eat 50% of chychrun then in this case? To me I cant imagine thats much more than like a third round pick
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 2:05 p.m.
Thread:
he has to go blud
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SadSensFan14</b></div><div>I think it's pretty obvious. There's a salary cap, so then when a player costs less than what they're actually worth, then their value is inflated.</div></div>
Yeah like i get the theory behind why it would work that way, i guess to me player retention (on rentals at least) is more about navigating the salary cap for both sides of a trade and less about the value on ice relative to their cap hit
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 1:38 p.m.
Thread:
Get G his cup NEXT season
sorry if im misunderstanding this, the sens are trading macklin celebrini and chychrun for linus ullmark?
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 12:46 p.m.
Thread:
he has to go blud
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SadSensFan14</b></div><div>If we're retaining 50%, then Sens decline.</div></div>
ive never understood the notion that retention makes a players trave value cost more
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 2:51 p.m.
Thread:
Summer of Briere
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>A bottom 6 of Greig, Joseph , Cates, Ostapchuk , Martinook and another vet is how u start winning and build an identity</div></div>
totally agree, and if the package was Cates and a 2nd or something I would still be alright with it. I just think this package gives enough now+future options to make it more worthwhile for us. Laugton is not a huge picece but is someone who can play in the b6 and is that real pro we are looking for, and if it doesnt work out we would have the chance to flip him later on for a different look
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 2:44 p.m.
Thread:
Summer of Briere
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Sens need to trade for Cates I don’t really care what. He’s the perfect bottom 6 guy for us along with Ostapchuk , Greig, Joseph and maybe 2 more vets</div></div>
cates would be a really nice add, but Idk if the opportunity cost of getting a 1st and a roster defenseman is enough for me to do cates + a 2nd. To me, Zamula is a really useful player to have because he fits what I think a modern depth d-man looks like, but he also makes brannstrom expendable for a trade to hunt for a different bottom 6 player to fill that cates-style role. Adding laugton for forsberg would be the cherry on top imo
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 2:35 p.m.
Thread:
expendable assets only
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>chabot and chych are pretty much = in all aspects except chabot misses dozens of games a year do to injury, every year, also chych is younger, i think chabot would have slightly more value because he is signed for 4 more years.</div></div>
Right but this is also one of JCs healthiest years and one of Chabots least. JC historically misses about 15-20+ games a season himself, its not like hes in a league of his own regarding health compared to chabot.
Chabot being signed for 4 years would be an enticing point for other teams if he was not signed to an 8m aav with an even higher actual salary. That salary cuts the amount of buyers/interested parties by a pretty significant margin. The sens can keep his 8m on the books because we have other team-friendly deals to offset that, other teams dont have that kind of salary structure available to them so the cheaper/shorter term Chychrun is more attainable for pretty much everyone which will drive him to get a more substantial return on the trade market. He and Chabot are both best suited to play behind sanderson at 2LD, but JCs deal makes him far far easier to move/acquire for other teams
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 2:23 p.m.
Thread:
expendable assets only
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>its 50/50, i think chabot is gone over chych do to him missing 30+ games every year.</div></div>
but chabot and chychrun are similarly impactful on the ice, so why give chabot away for like 1/4 or a half of what you could get in a chychrun trade, who would also want a deal around the same price as chabot?
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 2:22 p.m.
Thread:
Summer of Briere
pretty reasonable for the sens imo
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Thu. at 2:20 p.m.
Thread:
expendable assets only
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>this deadline was a buyers deadline, players went below market value. if OTT trade Chych it will be in offseason thus not aa a deadline rental.</div></div>
I would agree on the state at the TDL, but I am not convinced the 50 regular season games JC would play before the TDL would carry that much more value, nor am I sure about if the league is really going to go back to a sellers market. I think JC is pretty clearly the odd man out in Ottawa and to me that means other teams know he is going to be moved opposed to extended, and I cant imagine other teams are going to overpay knowing that. The extra pre TDL games are worth like an extra future 2nd/3rd round pick IMO. Hes not a "deadline rental" per se, but he would still be a rental of sorts and teams know that. Coupled with his less than extraordinary results on ice this year and I think were looking at a return centered around something like this.
I could be short a pick with some value, but the overall pieces I cant imagine would be that far off
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 1:56 p.m.
Thread:
Sharks looking good down the middle with Macklin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>Buying out a player while 21 million under the cap is ludacris
Just don't sign myers or brown. That's not blocking anyone</div></div>
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 1:50 p.m.
Thread:
expendable assets only
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>a late 1st, and 2 C prospects dont get PHI Chych</div></div>
I think youre still overvaluing him. Hanafin is a better player and got an incredibly similar return value wise. It could go higher sure, but I dont think this is outside of the range of outcomes at all
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 12:42 p.m.
Thread:
Norris out 2024 25 assumption post
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Celtics21</b></div><div>If you give Ullmark an extension that makes him wave his NMC, I would assume the cost would be Shane Pinto or Jacob Cychrun (with Lysell also going to Ottawa)</div></div>
Chychrun is a maybe due to the contracts being in similar sitations but pinto is absolutely not an option
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Thu. at 12:05 p.m.
Thread:
expendable assets only
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>johum7</b></div><div>he's a 6D on a playoff team ideally, he just blocks a ton of shots and hits a fair amount so many flyers fans have idolized him (when he was a bottom 5 dman in the nhl 2 years ago)
there is also the thing that this is a rebuilding team and that the development of players is more important than building a deep team for next year</div></div>
agree 100% on the second statement, I would potentially argue that this chychrun deal could do both those things for the flyers though. To me, its a really good buy low opportunity on a guy who has had better years in the past and the team hes being traded from probably sees him as expendable
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 10:38 a.m.
Thread:
expendable assets only
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>johum7</b></div><div>york-sanheim/seeler-drysdale/zamula-attard/ginning-andrae, is what i think the ideal scenario is for next year
the trade certainly is a net positive for the flyers in terms of value but chychrun is similar to sanheim and york in that he is a fringe 2D/good 3D. no need to add him when sanheim is signed long-term and york & chychrun are both due extensions. if york wanted out? then yea move him for chychrun, but i wouldn't want all 3 of them on the roster when the other 6 should be getting minutes as well</div></div>
im not a flyers fan so I cant really attest to it, but would seeler not be more ideally suited for a third-pair role on a playoff team? Like he has performed incredibly well in his deployments this year to the point where I totally get why he could play second pair, but would it not be more beneficial to upgrade from zamula to chychrun then just slide the depth down with regards to building a competitive roster? And as much as i think york has a lot of potential as a top 4 defender, i thought getting insulation for that top pair LD role might allow him to really blossom
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 10:19 a.m.
Thread:
expendable assets only
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OwnGoal</b></div><div>Most expensive 3rd line in the NHL maybe? Do you think if Norris didn’t get injured they would have traded him?</div></div>
I dont think they would have traded him, but now I dont think they could even if they wanted to
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 10:17 a.m.
Thread:
expendable assets only
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fergy22</b></div><div>3 years ago with LA , Grans was almost untouchable. I was surprised when Blake traded him. Seems to be slow to adapt to the pro game, his stock has taken a bit of a step backwards……but he is a RHD so that holds good value.</div></div>
He has regressed year over year since he started in the AHL. His future looks like an eyes closed dart throw at this point so thought I would include him as a maybe-but-not-likely future third pair piece for the sens to get the deal over the finish line
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