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Forum: NHLAug. 9 at 11:17 p.m. Forum: NHLAug. 8 at 11:56 a.m. Forum: NHLAug. 8 at 9:36 a.m. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188</b></div><div>Reports are that Kadri's asking price has not gone down. What is his asking price, you may be wondering? Well, according to those reports, the first digit of the asking price is a <strong>"9."</strong>
<strong>$9 MILLION AAV FOR A SOON-TO-BE-32-YEAR-OLD</strong> who has scored more than 61 points in a season ONCE?!
I don't know if I've ever seen a player overvalue himself more. Any team that gives that much to Kadri is INSANE. (Looking at you Lamoriello)</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangle</b></div><div>at what term? i know $9m is too much but if it's a one year contract it's not that bad.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188</b></div><div>Have to disagree with you there-even if it's a one year contract it's still awful, Kadri's not worth $9 million regardless of the term, but agreed that it's not as bad.
But that seems moot anyways, as the reports indicated he's looking for a long-term deal (because even if he did sign a one year deal and repeated last year's performance, he still probably won't get more next offseason, as at that point he'd be 33)</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Only 1 team can give him that without clearing cap or needing to sacrifice a spot only issue is why would they ruin their rebuild to do that
Honestly 7mill x 1 year (Hall or Klingberg style) and then try again next year for a bigger deal</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangle</b></div><div>if he can put up near ppg it's not a bad contract. in the end what you're paying for is him to leave at the end of the year.
not sure there is a long term deal out there for him.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_Habs_fan</b></div><div>9mil’s a lot but I’d easily give Kadri 8, you know he’s going to get term most likely too, that’s simply what happens with good players, they get more term than they should because GM’s value prime years at a good AAV a lot more than the tail end of the contract</div></div>
I've wondered if Carolina was a spot that Kadri was targeting but then the Pacioretty and Burns deals happened to suck up all of their available cap space.
Now there are only cap minimum or tanking teams that can afford him; with only Anaheim or Detroit having any kind of pulse but no real playoff aspirations this year. It doesn't matter if its $7 million or $9 million at this point.
People cannot underestimate the lack of money in the market right now.
It is so lazy to say: teams just need to move a contract out to make room for Kadri.
Who? Where are they moving? Who can take on a $5 million contract without draining their future assets too much (if they even have it).
Carolina can still move out Gardiner and Bear to create $6 million in space (via trade if they are lucky) but with Necas RFA that would still only leave them with just under $5 million available.
Winnipeg is a place that I see as a darkhorse for Kadri if they move out either Scheifele or Dubois in the off season. Of course the more talent that leaves there makes them less viable as a playoff contender. But who can take on either Scheifele or Dubois? Is Winnipeg a "contender" that would even entice Kadri if they had the space?
Colorado can only reasonably create $5.5 million if they move Compher; I don't see how they move Girard unless there is a solid defensemen coming back since they have no depth at the NHL level or ready for the NHL and Sakic/MacFarland know they need depth there for a playoff run (consider EJ and Byram's injury history).
Washington has many IR/LTIR issues and a little bit of cap space; so they could be a possibility for Kadri depending upon the long-term health of Backstrom, Hagelin, and Wilson. They also have a big need for a #2 Center.
I don't see how NY Islanders can be serious with Kadri unless they somehow got Dobson and Romanov to take really cheap deals and even then they still need to find a home for a $4-5 million contract.
Calgary has nowhere near the cap space unless they used their 2nd buyout window on Sean Monahan (would be announced today) and were able to get Milan Lucic to waive his NTC to go somewhere in a cap dump (also possible for Monahan if they don't exercise the buyout). Needless to say Calgary would have to move out both contracts; which will costs assets to do so.
Minnesota could make room if they were able to move Matt Dumba's contract now. If they were willing to do that to acquire a top 6 center they might as well just trade with Vancouver for JT Miller who is younger and cheaper since next year they have major RFA contracts coming due and still have the big buyouts on their books.
Boston barely has $2 million in cap space (possibly less if Zacha's RFA deal looks like Wood/Appleton) and that is before Bergeron/Krejci possibly return. Even if they don't the Bruins need to move out big contracts (buying out Foligno only creates $1.9 million). You cannot use "LTIR" money forever if those guys return during the season; otherwise someone has to go. Craig Smith and Mike Reilly are the only moveable contracts (as in no NTC/NMC) at $3 million each that you might find markets for but that's a big gamble to find out in December/January and Boston has few "sweetener" type assets.
Ottawa could be an option if he believes in their rebuild and they can move out Zaitsev. Who knows what will happen with Batherson/Formenton, or when anything will get resolved there; so it's not clear if they "need" more offensive help or not. They certainly need defensive help, especially on the right side so their cap space could be better used elsewhere. Calling them a contender is also a bit of a stretch at this point as well; but they do have a brighter future than other teams over the next few years.
With all of the dominoes that need to happen for Kadri to both "Cash in" and play for a legit Cup contender; I don't see it happening; so I think he takes a short term; high AAV deal with Detroit (close to his home) and they possibly move him at the deadline. That's the "easy solution". They can retain if they need to in order to maximize the return
Forum: NHLAug. 7 at 6:57 p.m. Forum: NHLAug. 7 at 6:54 p.m. Forum: NHLAug. 3 at 9:35 p.m. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CSStrowbridge</b></div><div>Probably could have gotten $10 million, elsewhere, so call it a win.</div></div>
Keep in mind, $9.5M in Florida is roughly $5,619,180 after tax (before escrow/agent fees/...).
The only other places where a $10M salary is worth more than $5,619,180 after tax are Dallas, Nashville, Seattle, Tampa, or Vegas.
In order to get the same take home in Calgary, he'd need a salary of $10,755,631. That's 13.21% higher.