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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 10 at 5:44 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 21 at 1:13 p.m.
Thread: 24-24 Look
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Celtics21</b></div><div>The moment we acquired Peeke, I think it made Bahl less of an option. There are lots of deals with NJ possible if both sides believe that is what they want.

I think the cleanest deal is the 2025 first for Ullmark. Maybe Holtz depending on what NJ views as their cap preference to keep.</div></div>

Agreed - I don't think a Peeke/Bahl combo would play to either of their strengths. Much rather target Holtz or Casey in an Ullmark deal.

<a href="/users/jastone" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@jastone</a> Freddy and Geekie's next deals are probably in the $4-5.5M AAV territory and cap is expected to continue to go up. I agree with the notion of being somewhat frugal, but I think we can afford to add another $4-5M vet on either LHD or to the middle 6
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 20 at 12:06 p.m.
Thread: Bs Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Celtics21</b></div><div>I think Grz will get the first pairing. Curious to see if it is Wotherspoon or Lohrei on the third line. Probably matchup dependent.

Peeke has looked good (surprised he got scratched as much with the size/talent level he’s displaying), but I can see some Wotherspoon/Shattenkirk options as well.

I want no part of those black aces playing. Just think they’d benefit from seeing what it takes to prepare</div></div>

Peeke has looked very good to his start with the Bruins - Shattenkirk with a 3 point game last night. I could also see that being a match-up dependent situation.

With Lauko's recent downward trend in play and JVR banged up, I am surprised the Bs haven't given either Lysell or Merk some looks next to Geekie and Freddy.
Forum: Fauteuil - DGMar. 19 at 1:58 p.m.
Thread: Next Year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>Can't see why Heinen would be taking a paycut. he's been awesome. 2x2.5 makes sense.



this is returning on the cheap. it makes a lot of sense. you can't just have 6 NHL d men rostered and expect success.</div></div>

Agree on Heinen

Still disagree on Grz... I don't think many teams are lining up to sign an undersized 30+ defenseman whose play has fallen off quite a bit in the last year. According to the Athletic's advanced analytics player cards, Grz's value is $1.2M AAV... if he wiling to accept a $2M AAV contract for the next two years I think the Bruins would be willing to bring him back and see if he can beat out Lohrei/Wotherspoon and regain some of his previous form. I just think there are better options out there than paying $3.5M for Grz.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 19 at 1:33 p.m.
Thread: Bruins fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Celtics21</b></div><div>I doubt Beecher has that type of offensive ceiling, which is fine. You need a fourth line center, but he’s not nearly aggressive enough offensively to remotely put him in the same category as McLeod as a talent.

I’m not sure where Lysell lands. To me, he’s a more skilled version of Victor Arvidssen. Top 6 talent is obvious watching him as long as he continues to let his teammates create for him and plays within a team structure. Excited to see what he can do</div></div>

There is also a four year gap in terms of their development... looking at their stats and metrics from this season:

Beecher
41 Games 6 goals 2 Assists 8 Points -5
1.12 Pts per 60
54.6% Faceoff
31% Defensive Zone Start
33% Corsi

McLeod
45 Games 10 goals 9 assists 19 points +6
1.67 Pts per 60
65% Faceoff
23% Defensive Zone Start
49% Corsi

Beecher is off to a pretty good start - especially when you compare to McLeod's start to his career (20 points in his first 85 games with a -16, about 52% FO win, and no goals in his first 30+ games). McLeod's best season was 26 points in 80 games last year, so I think you are overrating McLeod's offensive abilities. Statistically speaking, Beecher's first 40 games are better by pretty much every metric than McLeod's first 40 games. Beecher should be capable of matching this production by his 3rd or 4th pro season - I view him long-term as good 3C/excellent 4C who can be dominant on the forecheck and put up 30-40 points depending on the talent he is playing with. He is a poor man's Charlie Coyle, but better at FOs.

Lysell has a bright future - a little surprised he has not gotten a call up yet based on his play the last three months. Obvious top 6 talent who should make the team out of camp next year... a more skilled Arvidssen is a good comp IMO. Arvidssen had back to back 60 point seasons in Nashville - Lysell should be able to hit the 60 point mark consistently if he can reach his potential and stay healthy.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 19 at 10:36 a.m.
Thread: Bruins fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Celtics21</b></div><div>Ultimately, I wouldn’t be surprised if Boston has more NHL players with 200 game potential on their list than given credit for, but they don’t have many star caliber prospects comparatively though I take the top 3 of Poitras, Lysell, and Lohrei over a lot of the more highly regard trios.

Hoping they sign Collin Graf. They can likely sell a great opportunity for him</div></div>

I agree with you here: I believe all three are better than they are given credit for and will all have long NHL careers. IMO Lysell has the highest potential of them all... kid can be a gamebreaker, Poitras probably has the lowest floor... he is already showing the ability to play in the NHL at 19 with excellent vision and hockey IQ he just needs to put on some size, and Lohrei has developed a lot this year is showing flashes of being a dynamic offensive D.

I disagree with your take of Beecher though IMO he should have already locked up the 4C job. He is excellent on faceoffs and has great defensive awareness. He has shown offensive potential but has not produced consistently in that phase of the game yet. He is already a good 4C and is still only 22 in his second full pro season. IMO his ceiling is as a 3C and a similar player to Michael McLeod.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 16 at 1:13 p.m.
Thread: Ullmark trade and signing Lindholm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dugg133</b></div><div>I think there's a better chance then people think that Ottawa isn't on his NTC. Only team we know for certain that was on it is LA, and that was supposedly for "geographic reason", to me that says he wants to stay on the east coast.

And Geekie is fine, he's a good bottom 6 guy to have. If I need to move him to create cap I won't shed a tear though.</div></div>

Not sure it was confirmed LA was the team that attempted to make a move for him and was on the NTC list. I feel that could change in the offseason though. Young family... maybe didn't want to move across the country at the deadline. Maybe it gets revisited in the offseason when he has more time to get settled - LA isn't a bad place to be and its a promising team.