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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 2 at 1:25 p.m.
Thread: Based on calgary valuations
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Understandable on the Montembault side, was more so looking at value and cap fit. Mercer may get up to 6x8 on a long term deal, I think anything above that NJD looks to bridge at 3 years sub 4 mill

I don't know if Gavrikov would have more value than that. Full NMC, 1 year rental at 6 mill, LAK needing to clear cap space. I can't see a team offering much more for 1 year of him.</div></div>

Almost all projections of Mercer's contract don't really fit that get. It may something like 6x6 or around 4 for 2 to 3 years, but if he's as good as I've heard then its unlikely he'd get less. Even without factoring in the rising cap.

And this is the post flat-cap era, there will be a lot more interest on a top-4 D with Gavrikov's playstyle on an expiring deal. He'd have to ask out and only want to play in New Jersey for that return.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 1 at 6:10 p.m.
Thread: 3 way deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_92</b></div><div>How bout paying a winger almost $8M to be even more offensive oriented? - sounds like Caufield.

Dubois at his best is a 200ft power forward. He was exactly that when Columbus shut down Toronto in the bubble playoffs and Dubois went head to head with Matthews and was better. The issue with Dubois isn’t skill or his contract ($8.5M for a second line centre actually isn’t bad value), the issue his his consistency because of his attitude. Which would almost certainly be better playing for Montreal but it’s been made quite clear that he wants to play there.

Dach is also only 3 years younger. At the same age:
Dubois - 0.64ppg in 280 games
Dach - 0.46ppg in 212 games
That’s an average of 15 points more per season so yeah, Dubois is better and was better at the same age.</div></div>

First of all, Caufield isn't offensively oriented, he's been a plus defensive player for like 90 games now. Dubois also hasn't played a 200 ft game since he stopped playing for Torts.

As for Dach vs. Dubois, Dubois is not twice as good as Dach and I'm not going to bet on him being good into his 30s (because players with attitude issues almost always fall off early and he's not worth what he's being paid now). The whole point is that you can assume that Dach has zero value and the trade still doesn't make sense for Montreal.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 1 at 5:49 p.m.
Thread: 3 way deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_92</b></div><div>Dubois is still more valuable than Dach alone. Even in Dubois’ worst season (this year) still produces more than Dach has in his career - Dach is all potential at this point and he continues to not live up to it.

Also dissing on a guy signed to a long term deal that’s having really the 1st bad season of his career but is still 25 is pretty bold. Considering most Montreal fans wanted to trade for him last summer.</div></div>

Ok, then have your your favourite team take Montreal's place in this proposal.

And Montreal fans wanted Dubois at a lower cap hit and a lesser cost than Dach. Actually, its been reported that that's the case with management too.

And its not even the worst season of his career, he was worse in 2020-2021.

The issue with Dach isn't ability, its health. But even if he can't stay healthy, he's younger, has less than half the AAV and doesn't have trade protection.

And its irrelevant what you think of relative value of players, paying over 8 mil a season to a center that's mostly offense oriented and needs to be on the PP to be effective is never a good idea.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 25 at 11:31 a.m.
Thread: Necas to Montreal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Necas is above average defensively, what? Cushy matchups he gets by playing with the second powerplay unit, the top line, all while tasked with zone entries? Necas is hands down the better player here and he'd be even better where he doesn't have a leash on him. That is not questionable. Rod's system kills offensive talent, that is known.

Not get rid of the line, make it better. Staal's sucked, give KK the spot. He's been better defensively, offensively and in transition this year than Staal. Fast has not done anything. He works hard, but you can get that way cheaper, look at Stefan Noesen. No need to have them next year</div></div>

You make it sound like being tasked with zone entries is hard to find. And Necas gets an extreme Ozone usage push and rarely plays other teams top players at 5v5, especially relative to who he plays with. That's so far from having a leash on. He's as textbook a sheltered point producing forward as there is in the NHL.

Necas is a really good player, but it seems like you're selectively making opinions on him, other Canes and other players in the NHL on a very limited look of stats and not at all watching them play.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 25 at 11:08 a.m.
Thread: Necas to Montreal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Necas is a 70+ point producer that's 6'2, the fastest skater in the NHL, and is prime to explode in a system that doesn't require him to play Selke level defense... Staal and Fast have both been awful this year and Drury I can go either way, I think he'd be a fine 4C, but Lily would fill the gap on the backend.</div></div>

If Necas ever actually played Selke level defence (or even above average defence like Caufield has this season), then I'd buy that argument more. As is, Necas is probably benefiting far more getting cushy matchups with strong teammates and there's no reason to expect he'd even be this good on another team.

And if you want Carolina to get rid of their insanely tough minutes table setting line, then I guess that's up to you, but I imagine Carolina's front office is smarter than that.