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Forum: Armchair-GM14 hours ago

Thread: Fitzy end-of-season media availability

Woodcroft would cook in this role ngl

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 22 at 11:19 a.m.

Thread: Anaheim 24-25

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NJDevils1317</b></div><div>Honestly, I think the Devils may just run with Allen and a relatively cheap 1B next year rather than spend cap room and assets like this on a goalie with so much term and cost.</div></div>

Nah, Fitz is going to have to do <strong>SOMETHING</strong>. I agree that Allen has calm down the crease, but if <strong>ANYTHING</strong> happens (and its jersey, of course G crap happens-Its the Broduer curse). The prices that were out there will come back down to earth. Marky and Ullmark will be options without moving Holtz/Mercer. Saros is another question. I think he liked Marky because of the extra year to allow younger Gs to develop. For instance Marky/Allen combo all through the year with Daws/Schmid in Utica. At TDL see what Allen's interest is and *** he's playing. Ride out the season and one of the Utica Gs comes in the following season or Allen is our rock! But Fitz will be skewered if there is not some kind of add

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 24 at 5:59 p.m.

Thread: McLeod out Indefinitely

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Monahan doesn’t do any of the things McLeod does</div></div>

<img class="for_img" src="https://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/94/2017/06/Archer-Phrasing.jpg" alt="Archer-Phrasing.jpg">

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 14 at 7:55 p.m.

Thread: Bringing him home in the summer

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Nemec 1RD
Marino 2RD
UFA 3RD</div></div>

Sure but why not also have Dougie? If we're gonna offload an RD it would be Marino

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 5 at 2:11 p.m.

Thread: What would be the market for selling Dougie

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>crimsonchin23</b></div><div>Hamilton wasn't even good at defense when he was on the canes who had one of the best defensive systems in the league. One of the many reasons they didn't re-sign him</div></div>

And yet trouba has given up more shots, goals, and expected goals than Hamilton 5v5 over the past 2 years.

Has he tried playing better?

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 5 at 2:06 p.m.

Thread: What would be the market for selling Dougie

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>crimsonchin23</b></div><div>Trouba is +9, Hamilton is -8. Trouba has double the points excluding PP, which is is not on, and he actually plays defense unlike Hamilton. Plus he isn't a locker room cancer who has never lasted longer than three years on a team. Plus he is an actual leader. Hamilton wishes he was Trouba.</div></div>

Glad to hear you think Igor Shesterkin and Quick are equivalent in play to vitek vanacek

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 5 at 1:57 p.m.

Thread: What would be the market for selling Dougie

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>crimsonchin23</b></div><div>Considering Trouba is actually a good player he'd probably net a decent package in return but there'd be no reason for the Rangers to trade such a valuable piece so it's not even a relevant thought experiment</div></div>

Dougie: elite 1st pair dman
Trouba: mediocre 2nd pair dman

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 5 at 1:59 p.m.

Thread: What would be the market for selling Dougie

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>crimsonchin23</b></div><div>Why are you on a hockey-related website if you don't watch hockey?</div></div>

Trouba has been getting outchanced by the opposing team when he’s on the ice for 6 years and counting now.

Has he considered playing better?

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 28, 2023 at 10:51 p.m.

Thread: Nemec makes the team

The way he is playing, it’s hard to say no.

Brendan Smith, call your agent.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 28, 2023 at 11:05 p.m.

Thread: Nemec makes the team

I'd be amazed if Nemec wasn't on the opening night roster.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 24, 2023 at 9:14 a.m.

Thread: If jets trade Hellebuyck

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>8th that’s ridiculous, there’s only 3 on that list I may choose over him.</div></div>

He's tied for 4th or #5

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 24, 2023 at 7:06 a.m.

Thread: If jets trade Hellebuyck

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tintin</b></div><div>I probably shouldn't have implied there are multiple perfect comparables. You're right that goalies of this caliber are rarely traded.

The best recent one I can really think of is that of Kuemper back in 2021. Pending UFA, easily a top 10 goalie at the time. 1st + 3rd + B level prospect.
Then there's Ryan Miller from the 2014 TDL. Pending UFA playing at the height of his powers going from Buffalo to the Blues. 1st + 3rd + Halak (lesser starter mainly for salary purposes) + B level prospect.

Going by these two comps, a futures laden Hellebuyck to the Devils deal should probably look something like 1st + 3rd + Vanecek + Graeme Clarke (or Nolan Foote)...

At this point in time I'd probably rank Hellebuyck as the 8th best goalie in the NHL behind:
1. Saros
2. Shesterkin
3. Sorokin
4. Vasilievsky
5.Gustavsson
6. Oettinger
7. Ullmark</div></div>

8th that’s ridiculous, there’s only 3 on that list I may choose over him.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 24, 2023 at 8:04 a.m.

Thread: If jets trade Hellebuyck

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NJDevils1317</b></div><div>You have to consider things like age and value of contract (long term an 8year deal for a 31yr old goalie is BAAAAAAD idea).

Hellebuyck has a lot of miles and has played more good hockey than what he has left.</div></div>

So you’re taking goalies that have had 10 minute healthy flashes of being good over him, theres a list there that is rather mediocre at ranking goalies. Age/contract whatever you want to add it, still a terrible list.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 14, 2023 at 3:39 p.m.

Thread: lines

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pretzelcoatl</b></div><div>Fourth line will be N Foote instead of Lazar there. Third pair will be Hughes-Miller or Bahl-Miller. Nemec won't make the team unless he is insanely good.</div></div>

he's insanley good rn esepcailly after full ahl year and summer

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 27, 2023 at 11:10 a.m.

Thread: Hughes trio

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CalvinKlein</b></div><div>Adding Quinn would be a nice marketing gimmick, but he's just not a good fit for NJ right now. He's a great player, but stylistically he's the wrong player for the Devils.</div></div>

A top 10 dman in the league is never a bad fit especially with what he can do in transition, but it yeah it would be a marketing gimmick and not worth the price when they already have young guys that have such massive potential.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 19, 2023 at 6:47 p.m.

Thread: Cup Team

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AlTintin1122</b></div><div>People also give too much credit to save percentage when it comes to goalies. That isn’t as important as they think</div></div>

And too much looking at tiny playoff samples. If one buys that Vanecek will stink based on 2023 playoffs….then one must also believe Schmid will be elite.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2023 at 3:02 p.m.

Thread: done eh

in the last 3 years, Gibson has only saved more goals above expected than Vanacek (per evolving hockey's model) in 1 season ( two years ago). they had identical dFS% two years ago. Vanacek's numbers were miles better this season.

Gibson costs 2.25M more for the next 2 years and then 5.4M more for the following 2, all while being 2 years older.

I personally doubt the Devils would do this at this price point and with that level of retention unless their models paint a significantly rosier picture of Gibson than public models have for the last 5 years (the devils are a huge analytics team)

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 1, 2023 at 4:42 p.m.

Thread: Coming into focus

Not saying this to knock but just for future reference there is a 0% chance Mercer is involved in a trade for Hellebuyck.

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 1, 2023 at 4:31 p.m.

Thread: Colorado Avalanche signed Miles Wood (6 Years / $2,500,000 AAV)

Ummm, what?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2023 at 7:59 p.m.

Thread: Coyotes Actually Trying

I think if NJ could do a 4 year deal with Sharangovich, I'd be ok with trading Boqvist for that return.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 23, 2023 at 8:07 p.m.

Thread: Some good news for Calgary

Devils fans have seen our share of sell-offs.

Gaudreau/Tkachuk departures always remind me of Parise/Kovalchuk in 2012/2013.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 17, 2023 at 9:55 a.m.

Thread: Stanley cup Champs

NJ should scream yes and block Colorado’s number so they can’t back out

Forum: NHL SigningsJun. 15, 2023 at 1:31 p.m.

Thread: New Jersey Devils signed Jesper Bratt (8 Years / $7,875,000 AAV)

Under 8 Mill locked in, massive W.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 26, 2023 at 6:06 p.m.

Thread: Goalie Trade Comps

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't want to pay a fair price, I understand, everyone here wants something for nothing. So you use lower valued players as the comp.

As I said, the Jets aren't looking to trade him from what they say, so you need to give them a reason to. You're not doing that with this offer. I'm sure the Jets are fine waiting.</div></div>

I am not posting this for me.
Or about any singular goalie.

Use comps. They will make you look smart.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 26, 2023 at 5:52 p.m.

Thread: Goalie Trade Comps

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SKWPG</b></div><div>Would love to put money on this one, but will have to suffice with... Let's look back after the Helly trade is done and see that I'm correct, as usual.</div></div>

Every year. Every selling teams fans say the same things.

<em>Our guy is different….This year is different….There are more buyers….I will be proven right! </em>

It’s like a broken record. Around-and-around it goes.

And every year…the comps win.

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