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Forum: Armchair-GM5 hours ago
Thread: Fuel for the fire
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>Fair points!

I will counter by reminding you that even in a good development organization, players picked 17-48 are just as likely to never play a full season than they are to become elite players. In general they become role players.

Now are the Habs a Good development organization? I thought we had turned a corner, but when you look at the state of the Rocket right now, I would say we are at best a "work in progress".

If we don't look outside our organization for talent, we have a long and painful road ahead of us and no guarantee of ever succeeding.</div></div>

Not sure what you mean about the state of the Rocket since I don't follow them at all lol. Like I said though, looking outside of the organization is fine but if giving up first round picks, I would prefer we do it only for players under 23 who still have time to hit their potential rather than for players 24 or older who have likely hit their ceiling, that has nothing to do with how well or poorly the organization develops just how well thy scout
Forum: Armchair-GM6 hours ago
Thread: Fuel for the fire
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>We traded a 1st and 2nd for Newhook and his top scoring was 33 points.

I'd rather have a 40-50 point player who is guaranteed to make the NHL (and plays well both ways) than a late 1st round lottery pick.</div></div>

First off let me apologize for the autocorrect, it was supposed to say Dube not <strong>Dude</strong>, so I hope you didn't take as me being confrontational.

Yes we gave up a 1st and 2nd for Newhook and personally I thought that was a 1st too much. We shouldn't be paying 1st round picks for players who are flirting with being busts, we should be using them to select players who have high end potential in the draft or using them on players still under 23 who like Kakko can still grow into those roles, players at 24 and 25 are basically at full development, meaning they are highly unlikely to become much more than they already are. Newhook wasn't 24 or 25 when we traded for him he was 22 so still has 2 or 3 years worth of development time which leaves him with time to hit his ceiling as opposed to the Flames players, that's why Hughes was comfortable with trading a 1st for them. Like I said though if you want to use the 1st on a young player target someone like Kakko who still has time on their side to grow.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 11:29 a.m.
Thread: Safer and top end players now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>It's hard for me to believe that someone who speaks English could misconstrue my comment so utterly. In particular, the accusation that I used McDavid as a comparison for Zegras is so outer-worldly that I worry about your re-entry. And what Connor Bedard for Trevor Zegras has to do with Zegras for a 2025 first from either Montreal or Calgary is known, I am sure, only to you.</div></div>

I worry about your mental state when you can't even remember what you wrote earlier in the thread! You literally said <strong>"no amount of delayed potential overrides the value of proven talent on the ice now."</strong> so correct me if I am wrong but before the draft last year, there was no guarantee that Bedard would be in the NHL this season hence "delayed potential". Therefore what you said equates to Anaheim (or any other team) would <strong>never</strong> trade a proven NHL player for Bedard.

Also, I notice you never denied saying that Anderson wasn't worth a 1st and that you were a hypocrite for saying that there is no such thing as an overpayment for proven NHL players when trading for futures, guess that speaks volumes to your biases!
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 11:12 a.m.
Thread: Since Wheeler Wont Waive His NTC
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shakabakes</b></div><div>No one will give up their Top Prospect for Monahan. If not for the Cap Crunch on all the contenders, you probably wouldn't get the 1st in any other year.

The Habs will already get more than his actual worth, because of this. But common sense and restraint will prevail, at some point.</div></div>

That's fair and I did say I wasn't saying the Rags should do it but the Habs aren't likely taking back <strong>another</strong> LHD prospect either, so like I said they would be more interested in a top forward prospect and a lower pick if they had their choice, I guess the other option would just be for a 1st + 3rd and no prospects involved. Common sense should be applied to their side of the deal as well, we already have Guhle, Harris, Xhekaj, Hutson and Struble as good young D and with Matheson signed for 2 more years after this one at least 2 of them will be traded or sent to Laval next year
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:29 a.m.
Thread: Safer and top end players now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Sure. Anaheim's rebuild is going well, probably better than expected, but instead of proceeding with a construction that should start to bear fruit in 2025, let's abandon it and take some futures that won't turn into actual NHLers until 5 seasons from now, if ever.

The idiotic comments about "overpayment" expose the lack of understanding about a basic and inescapable truth . . . no amount of delayed potential overrides the value of proven talent on the ice now. That's why, for example, you could offer Edmonton TEN first-round draft picks for Connor McDavid and the Oilers would be morons to accept.</div></div>

That's right cause Anaheim would never have traded Conner Bedard for Zegras before last year's draft?! There is definitely such thing as an overpayment for proven NHL players and <strong>you</strong> have said as much in the past every time you have seen Habs fans saying Anderson is worth a 1st round pick, so you are a hypocrite, just cause Zegras plays for your favorite team doesn't mean his value is that of McDavid, the fact that you even used McDavid as a comparison proves how out of touch you are, players get traded every year for picks and prospects, hell even Gretzky was traded for a combination including picks and prospects. Nowhere did I say Anaheim should do it, I just said it was an extreme overpay that Montreal would never offer in the first place. As someone above said the OP should be targeting teams on the downswing from contention not those on the upswing like Anaheim, Ottawa or Buffalo