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Forum: Armchair-GM7 hours ago
Thread: most id do for toffoli and miller
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>saysthemachine</b></div><div>I replied to OP on my initial comment, so I have no idea why you commented about Montreal's opinion on my statement to begin with. The Leafs retained 1.2m on Kessel for 7 seasons and got 2 1sts. Keep dreaming that you will get that for a middle six forward.</div></div>

This is CapFriendly my friend it is a public forum where anyone can comment on anyone else's posts as they feel. I was commenting on your post because you said the Rags can't keep the group together after this season like that should affect the value of the deal for Montreal. The Habs wouldn't and shouldn't care whether or not the Rags can keep their team together, that was my point. I also was responding on how ridiculous it is to expect to get a TOP 6 forward who has consistently over the course of his career scored 20+ goals a year at 2 mil for 3.5 years for just a bunch of garbage throw aways. Using the Leafs as an example is like comparing apples to oranges. 1. Kessel's cap hit for the Pen's was still 6.8 mil a year after the retention and the Leafs didn't JUST get a 1st they also got Harrington, Kahane, and a 3rd. 2. The Kessel trade did not take place in a flat cap world. The cap was increasing and cap space was not as big of a premium as it is now. 3. Now let's use your example shall we to see what Toronto could have got IF the situation was similar. Kessel is the better player than Toffoli so let's assume the Leafs were retaining half of his 8 mil salary like the situation above for Toffoli. The Leafs could have easily gotten at least 1 more 1st or a top prospect from the Pen's if Kessel was being traded at 4 Mil. Now take into account Toffoli signed at a discount of about 1.5-2 Mil and Kessel didn't so that would be like getting Kessel at 3 mil instead of 6.8. How many 1sts do you think the Pen's would have had to give up to get Kessel at 3 Mil? 2? 3? That isn't even in the flat cap world, let's take that into account, see how things are increasing? This is just ridiculous to say that Toffoli at 2 mil is not worth more than what Kessel was at 6.8 six years ago before covid.
Forum: Armchair-GM10 hours ago
Thread: most id do for toffoli and miller
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>saysthemachine</b></div><div>Calm down. I don't want your middle six guy. I am saying there is no point for the Rangers to make these trades because it forces them into a position where they have to move players in the offseason to be cap compliant. This should be part of the analysis of moves like this.

<strong>IMO there isn't a player on your roster the Rangers want.</strong></div></div>

You calm down yourself, I was simply saying that the Rangers have to worry about their own cap cause quite frankly Montreal does not care about it. If the Habs are making this trade it is going to cost the Rags a LOOOOTTTT more than what was proposed. TBH I don't care what you think of the Habs lineup or their players by making a statement like the bolded one above you are just trolling and know very little about what the Rags would really want. There are several players on the Habs that all teams would want (including the Rags), players like Suzuki, Caufield, Romanov, Toffoli, Anderson, Gallagher, Price, Dvorak, Petry, Edmundson, Chiarot, Lehkonen, Armia, Hoffman, Drouin and Clague all have varying levels of worth and depending on team needs would be of interest to other teams including your precious Rags.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 7:14 p.m.
Thread: if weber didnt get a thousand injuries
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Zuki9797</b></div><div>gonna disagree with some of those points...

not everyone was overrated but a couple very important players were
hot streak 100% true

toffoli had a 44 goal pace. zero chance he was gonna hit that again lmao
petry had a 63 point pace. again, zero chance he was gonna hit that again at 34 and older

caufield got put in the spotlight too soon. blaming MB for that

those are the three that i can think of off the top of my head (mostly because you talked about it lol). not everyone, but those three were very significant overrates.
then gally fell off a cliff, weber was hurt, savard didnt fit very well, and half the team got hurt</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Zuki9797</b></div><div>gonna disagree with some of those points...

not everyone was overrated but a couple very important players were
hot streak 100% true

toffoli had a 44 goal pace. zero chance he was gonna hit that again lmao
petry had a 63 point pace. again, zero chance he was gonna hit that again at 34 and older

caufield got put in the spotlight too soon. blaming MB for that

those are the three that i can think of off the top of my head (mostly because you talked about it lol). not everyone, but those three were very significant overrates.
then gally fell off a cliff, weber was hurt, savard didnt fit very well, and half the team got hurt</div></div>

Will agree on Toffoli and Caufield, Petry though is another story IMO. He was always a 40-45 point D man and while being on pace for 60+ was an anomaly there was no reason to believe (and still isn't) that he would suddenly fall this far. Caufield's usage like many before him is still up and down, he will get there though and should just be allowed to play top 6 regardless of production especially this year since it is lost anyway. This is the perfect year to just left him play with no pressure to develop at the pro level.

The biggest issue though IMO is still coaching, there isn't a working system for our current lineup and the coach seems to think it is the players that need to adapt to the system instead of adapting the system to fit the players.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 6:01 p.m.
Thread: Phase 1 Habs rebuild - TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>Hes not a problem player though. He made one mistake and moved on from it. Hes been decent in EDM ever since the trade and his personality hasnt destroyed the EDM young guys. Its a fallacy. Either way, hes means to and end. If we can move him again, im happy with that. He was never the goal of the trade.

Im still confused with your #2 #3 though. Were retaining on pending ufas for 2 months and were the ones getting the 4ths. This is a no brainer from the Habs perspective. The cap is pointless to the Habs this year and frankly even next year as they are trying to rebuild and will be under the cap next year as well too.</div></div>

I agreed with you on the 3rd point and said I made a mistake, comment 2 was regarding getting a 4th for Perrault instead of a 6th. Why sell low when a slightly higher pick gives you a slightly higher chance at finding a gem. I know ot is just 2 late round picks but giving up value is still giving up value.