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Armchair-GM
1 minute ago
Thread:
3 way
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SK101</b></div><div>I only see the jackets getting one first in your proposal. The other is going to the Habs. If the jackets are getting the Edmonton first too then it’s more reasonable value wise although I still don’t see them retaining on Elvis for 4 years</div></div>
You should have your eyes checked! Mesar is a recent 1st and still has 1st round value as was/does Bourgault, that's 2 1sts and the Flames 1st makes 3, yes the Habs also get a 1st for eating 4 years of that horrific Campbell deal but also get to use Bourgault to help acquire Laine.
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Armchair-GM
6 minutes ago
Thread:
24-25
Why are the Habs trading one LHD for another? The whole reason Harris would be traded is due to our excess number of LHD, this doesn't solve that!
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Armchair-GM
23 minutes ago
Thread:
3 way
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>p1015983</b></div><div>Did the Habs just get an extra 10mil in cap space? What do you do when Dach and Newhook are off of LTIR?</div></div>
Dach is out for the season and all we need to do is send Armia and Struble back to Laval to be compliant
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Armchair-GM
26 minutes ago
Thread:
3 way
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SK101</b></div><div>No way the jackets half retain on Elvis for 4 years. They also aren’t trading laine for that little.</div></div>
Little?! That is 2 1sts worth and a ufa as a cap offset! Not many teams are giving you more than that right now with how he is playing and being scratched. The other 1st is for retaining on Merzilkins, yes they would have to retain but if they didn't that first would be a 2nd
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Armchair-GM
4 hours ago
Thread:
3 way
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MTLaveragefan</b></div><div>Drouin 2.0 again... talented players with no heart will do poorly in Montreal.</div></div>
You are kidding right Laine is waaayyy better than Drouin ever thought of being
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Armchair-GM
4 hours ago
Thread:
3 way
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joblow</b></div><div>Montreal isn’t doing that. To much dead money involved and Laine doesn’t fit the culture Montreal want to built.</div></div>
I don't know, there were rumors Montreal was in on Laine before and getting Bourgault to turn into Liane is actually pretty good.
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Armchair-GM
5 hours ago
Thread:
Fuel for the fire
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>Fair points!
I will counter by reminding you that even in a good development organization, players picked 17-48 are just as likely to never play a full season than they are to become elite players. In general they become role players.
Now are the Habs a Good development organization? I thought we had turned a corner, but when you look at the state of the Rocket right now, I would say we are at best a "work in progress".
If we don't look outside our organization for talent, we have a long and painful road ahead of us and no guarantee of ever succeeding.</div></div>
Not sure what you mean about the state of the Rocket since I don't follow them at all lol. Like I said though, looking outside of the organization is fine but if giving up first round picks, I would prefer we do it only for players under 23 who still have time to hit their potential rather than for players 24 or older who have likely hit their ceiling, that has nothing to do with how well or poorly the organization develops just how well thy scout
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Armchair-GM
6 hours ago
Thread:
Fuel for the fire
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>We traded a 1st and 2nd for Newhook and his top scoring was 33 points.
I'd rather have a 40-50 point player who is guaranteed to make the NHL (and plays well both ways) than a late 1st round lottery pick.</div></div>
First off let me apologize for the autocorrect, it was supposed to say Dube not <strong>Dude</strong>, so I hope you didn't take as me being confrontational.
Yes we gave up a 1st and 2nd for Newhook and personally I thought that was a 1st too much. We shouldn't be paying 1st round picks for players who are flirting with being busts, we should be using them to select players who have high end potential in the draft or using them on players still under 23 who like Kakko can still grow into those roles, players at 24 and 25 are basically at full development, meaning they are highly unlikely to become much more than they already are. Newhook wasn't 24 or 25 when we traded for him he was 22 so still has 2 or 3 years worth of development time which leaves him with time to hit his ceiling as opposed to the Flames players, that's why Hughes was comfortable with trading a 1st for them. Like I said though if you want to use the 1st on a young player target someone like Kakko who still has time on their side to grow.
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Armchair-GM
8 hours ago
Thread:
Fuel for the fire
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>I think they are both middle 6 players. The Flames are having cultural issues, but if you look at Dube's progression, you could compare him easily to Newhook.
Ruzicka has size and skill. He's also Slovakian which helps with the Slaf/Mesar contingent as things progress.
The Habs are gonna win by committee, not by superstar game-breaking talent.</div></div>
Dude in 305 games has 127 points that's 0.42 ppg over his 5 full time seasons, that is not a 2nd line player. His career high is 45 points, he is basically the Dvorak of the Flames, so why are we trading a 1st for that, did we not learn from that trade
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Armchair-GM
8 hours ago
Thread:
Fuel for the fire
Personally, I wouldn't give up a 1st for that. Honestly, I don't have any interest in those 2 Flames just cause we already have too many 3rd and 4th liners
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Armchair-GM
11 hours ago
Thread:
Oil Jackets
Imagine thinking Foegele + Kulak would return Boqvist + Buttler + Laine (retained) + 3rd!!! What a ridiculous offer!!!
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Fauteuil - DG
21 hours ago
Thread:
habs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rags21</b></div><div>Rangers would only offer picks for Monahan. No reason to complicate it</div></div>
Yeah I that makes sense too, from the Habs side, only reason to complicate it is if cap has to come back lol
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Fauteuil - DG
21 hours ago
Thread:
habs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rags21</b></div><div>A rental center they can probably get with picks. The rangers staff and organization are high on Perreault, so I doubt they move him at all</div></div>
Habs staff are high on Mesar as well, I don't really think this makes sense for either side but value is swayed more to the Rags side only cause Monahan has more value than Goodrow on the open market though since the prospects are basically a wash that neither team has interest in moving
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Armchair-GM
21 hours ago
Thread:
Habs fans what say you
Monahan has more value than those Kakko and Wheeleris needed and won't waive anyway
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Armchair-GM
22 hours ago
Thread:
Time to trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rags21</b></div><div>I mean it’s pointless for the rangers to trade Kakko if it’s not for a clear upgrade</div></div>
Kakko has 3 points in 20 games this season playing mostly in NY top 9
Ylonen has 4 points in 17 games playing mostly on the Habs 4th line
I wouldn't say it's a clear upgrade but NY is gonna have a hard time getting anything back if they are trying to get a "clear upgrade" how many teams are gonna look at Kakko and say yes we will trade you our 1st round pick or a better young player for him when he is on pace for a whopping 20 points?!
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Armchair-GM
22 hours ago
Thread:
Adding more 1st round misfits
Habs aren't trading Xhekaj, just look at their past 7 games without him to see why. They get pushed around too much without him in the lineup, he keeps other teams honest. Also Monahan has more value right now than Kakko so the other pieces are going the wrong way, Rags would be adding a 2nd or 3rd and Habs add nothing
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Armchair-GM
22 hours ago
Thread:
Holland making BIG MOVES - Oilers are back
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CBA</b></div><div>I should have said only the 2024 1st round pick is top 10 protected, if the pick is top 10, MTL receive EDM 2025 and 2026 EDM unprotected 1st round pick</div></div>
Thanks, just wasn't sure what the logistics were
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 12:59 p.m.
Thread:
Safer and top end players now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>You'd be hilarious if we thought that you weren't serious.
You're right -- I'm totally biased against the useless Josh Anderson, who in my opinion isn't worth a second-round draft pick.</div></div>
So you admit that you are a hypocrite and everything you say should be taken with a grain of salt, good to know you realize that you biased but it's not just against Anderson, it's against anything that doesn't have the Ducks absolutely fleecing the other teams
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 11:29 a.m.
Thread:
Safer and top end players now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>It's hard for me to believe that someone who speaks English could misconstrue my comment so utterly. In particular, the accusation that I used McDavid as a comparison for Zegras is so outer-worldly that I worry about your re-entry. And what Connor Bedard for Trevor Zegras has to do with Zegras for a 2025 first from either Montreal or Calgary is known, I am sure, only to you.</div></div>
I worry about your mental state when you can't even remember what you wrote earlier in the thread! You literally said <strong>"no amount of delayed potential overrides the value of proven talent on the ice now."</strong> so correct me if I am wrong but before the draft last year, there was no guarantee that Bedard would be in the NHL this season hence "delayed potential". Therefore what you said equates to Anaheim (or any other team) would <strong>never</strong> trade a proven NHL player for Bedard.
Also, I notice you never denied saying that Anderson wasn't worth a 1st and that you were a hypocrite for saying that there is no such thing as an overpayment for proven NHL players when trading for futures, guess that speaks volumes to your biases!
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 11:12 a.m.
Thread:
Since Wheeler Wont Waive His NTC
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shakabakes</b></div><div>No one will give up their Top Prospect for Monahan. If not for the Cap Crunch on all the contenders, you probably wouldn't get the 1st in any other year.
The Habs will already get more than his actual worth, because of this. But common sense and restraint will prevail, at some point.</div></div>
That's fair and I did say I wasn't saying the Rags should do it but the Habs aren't likely taking back <strong>another</strong> LHD prospect either, so like I said they would be more interested in a top forward prospect and a lower pick if they had their choice, I guess the other option would just be for a 1st + 3rd and no prospects involved. Common sense should be applied to their side of the deal as well, we already have Guhle, Harris, Xhekaj, Hutson and Struble as good young D and with Matheson signed for 2 more years after this one at least 2 of them will be traded or sent to Laval next year
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 11:06 a.m.
Thread:
Holland making BIG MOVES - Oilers are back
Just a question on the logistics of the conditions.
Say the Oilers 2024 1st is top 10 what is the outcome? We would already have their 2025 unless it's top 10, so would it revert to the 2026 1st unprotected, would it become their 2025 unprotected and the 2025 becomes a top 10 protected 2026?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 11:00 a.m.
Thread:
Since Wheeler Wont Waive His NTC
Sorry, the offer is good but I think the Habs would be more inclined to get a higher valued prospect back and a lower pick than a 1st and good LHD prospect. Someone like Cuylle, Othmann or Kakko along with a pick in the 2nd-5th range depending on which player is coming back, in no way am I saying NY should offer that, just laying out what Montreal is more likely to be looking for
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 10:29 a.m.
Thread:
Safer and top end players now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Sure. Anaheim's rebuild is going well, probably better than expected, but instead of proceeding with a construction that should start to bear fruit in 2025, let's abandon it and take some futures that won't turn into actual NHLers until 5 seasons from now, if ever.
The idiotic comments about "overpayment" expose the lack of understanding about a basic and inescapable truth . . . no amount of delayed potential overrides the value of proven talent on the ice now. That's why, for example, you could offer Edmonton TEN first-round draft picks for Connor McDavid and the Oilers would be morons to accept.</div></div>
That's right cause Anaheim would never have traded Conner Bedard for Zegras before last year's draft?! There is definitely such thing as an overpayment for proven NHL players and <strong>you</strong> have said as much in the past every time you have seen Habs fans saying Anderson is worth a 1st round pick, so you are a hypocrite, just cause Zegras plays for your favorite team doesn't mean his value is that of McDavid, the fact that you even used McDavid as a comparison proves how out of touch you are, players get traded every year for picks and prospects, hell even Gretzky was traded for a combination including picks and prospects. Nowhere did I say Anaheim should do it, I just said it was an extreme overpay that Montreal would never offer in the first place. As someone above said the OP should be targeting teams on the downswing from contention not those on the upswing like Anaheim, Ottawa or Buffalo
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 7:35 a.m.
Thread:
Safer and top end players now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>M_Swann</b></div><div>If you want other teams' top players and prospects, you'll have to give some of yours up as well. Like Slafkovsky, Hutson and Reinbacher.</div></div>
1. 2 1sts+ for Askarov is a <strong>huge</strong> overpay, no goalie in the history of the NHL has ever cost 2 1sts+
2. 4 1sts and 7 2nds wworth of value for Zegras and Mintyukov is so far beyond a ridiculous overpayment that the Ducks take that rolling on the floor laughing at the ridiculousness. Would you give all that up for Suzuki and Guhle?! Of course not, no one would and no one would for Zegras and Mintyukov either.
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 9:48 p.m.
Thread:
What about this idea
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SomeonesOffended</b></div><div>Now that’s insanity right there lol</div></div>
So is cheering for the Leafs year after year expecting different results, but you keep insisting on doing it, so who's the insane one here?
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