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Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 10, 2023 at 2:53 p.m.
Thread: LARSSON is AVAILABLE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>His value was literally pegged to be around a PLD level of return by the Athletic. Or Elias Lindholm.

PLD is making $7M+ from LA. Lindholm is asking $9M for his next contract.

JEE is making $5.25M AAV for the next 6 years. He currently has 13 goals, 7 assists, for 20 points in 26 games played. That's a .80 PPG pace. He's on pace for well over 70 points this season, and he had 65 last season, so he's not just on pace to be over 50 points again? His numbers are improving every year.

So to summarize, he's a Selke caliber 2nd line center who has improved every year he's been in the league. On a steal of a contract. That's a lot of value, value that's increased by his contract being so cheap for so long. There's not a better contract for a top-six center in the league.

You think that doesn't cost in today's market?

And to be blunt it doesn't matter what his value is. It's what's his value to Minnesota. Which is immeasurable.

1) He's Minnesota's best center. He's still young, on a stupidly great contract, and arguably their most important player after Kaprizov.

It's going to take a stupidly asinine levels of overpay to pry him out of Minnesota.

2) Selke voting is extremely biased to East Coast players. Eriksson-Ek hasn't won yet primarily because Bergeron was still playing. Now that he's retired, Eriksson-Ek has a realistic and legitimate chance to win.

Not that I expect him too, given the severe East Coast bias for that award. If he played on the East Coast, he'd be a no-brainer lock for the award.

But Eriksson-Ek has been arguably the best shutdown center in the league after Bergeron by analytics for the past few years.</div></div>

If JEE value to Minnesota is immeasurable to Minnesota, then they should keep him. League market value has him at the same price as ROR/PLD; 1st + prospect + 2nd + cap dump/roster player.

PLD went for Vilardi (1st) + 2nd + Kupari (prospect) + Iafallo (roster player)

ROR in 2018 was a near identical player to JEE. Perennial Selke nominee, signed for 5 seasons, reasonable cap hit for what ROR brought, the difference is ROR was a 1st line-center as opposed to JEE's 2nd line.

If JEE is moved, you can expect market value for him. If the Wild don't believe that 1st + prospect + roster player is worth it, then that's what they decide.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 10, 2023 at 12:40 p.m.
Thread: LARSSON is AVAILABLE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>1) Minnesota isn't retaining. His contract is already a steal. And no one ever retains for longer than 2 years on a moved contract.

Furthermore, even if the team was to consider selling. JEE is NOT a piece that would ever be moved. He's still young and a central pillar of their core.

2) That isn't even close to sufficient value for JEE, and that's before retention. Which would cost more.

3) The ONLY player Minnesota considers moving JEE for is EP40. It would be unreasonable and unrealistic, but EP40 would have to be coming back Minnesota's way before they would willingly move JEE.</div></div>

That's a laugh. JEE is not Matthew Tkachuk. He's not earning Huberdeau + Weegar + 1st. He's not Jack Eichel, he's not earning Tuch + Krebs + 1st.

JEE has scored more than 50 points once in his career, he's on pace to do it again. He has finished Top-10 in Selke voting, but has never won. His closest comparison that has been traded recently is Ryan O'Rielly, who was signed to a long-term deal.

O'Rielly earned Buffalo 1st + 2nd + Thompson (struggling prospect) + Sobotka (bottom-sixer) + Berglund (long-term cap dump)

You could reasonably ask for a 1st + struggling prospect + roster player, more if a team requires you to take a cap dump back.

Comparable to the O'Rielly trade, Vancouver could offer 1st + Podkolzin + Blueger, or 1st + 2nd + Podkolzin + Garland.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 6, 2023 at 10:10 p.m.
Thread: Changes to Top Six
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>seanrushton</b></div><div>Yah they have multiple reasons
1. They are not winning or making the playoffs with this current core
2. Petterson is a piece that can fetch a hefty return (See my realm of ballpark above)
3. They need new blood in the organization both players and management</div></div>

1.Mangment has made it clear they are not rebuilding. IF Vancouver was to blow it up the Canes really don't have anything interesting in a rebuild move Morrow is a nice piece but isn't enough to be a blue-chip prospect in a Pettersson trade. Only team that might have the pieces for it is CJB with 3ova +
2. Of course Pettersson is going to fetch a hefty return he is 100 point 24 year old rfa,
3. I mean they already have done that, Leadership group change and new management in the past year is getting new blood in the organization.