Apr 28, 2016
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ExpiredmilkYT</b></div><div>JVR will probably be lost in expansion. Think Frost makes the team this year as our 3LW, Farabee and Ruby playing in 2020-2021. This team seems reasonable though.</div></div>
I think that, health permitting, Rubtsov will be the first forward call up. I could see Frost (less so Farabee) making the team from camp but I think Rubtsov is the first guy they call up from the Phantoms in season regardless who's down there. I wonder if the hope over the next few seasons if to move one of JVR or Voracek and lose the other in the expansion draft (with a first round pick or prospect or other incentive).
Makes a lot of cap sense for the Flyers down the road with the likes of Frost, Farabee, Rubtsov, Ratcliffe, Allison, Brink, etc, all seemingly good beats to at least be NHL quality players.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>markmws</b></div><div>While I disagree with the return presented, I also disagree that the Flyers would not benefit from shopping him. Yes, the right side is now solidified, however the left side has Provorov, Ghost, Hagg, with Morin knocking at the door. The fact remains that Ghost, who is 26, costs 4.5 million over the next 4 years, while Hagg is 24 and is a cheaper, albeit still strong option. With Morin knocking at the door and a right side that includes Niskenan, Myers, Sanheim, and Baun, the flyers could conceivable afford to part ways with Ghost IF it leads them to a bigger offensive fish.
I am by no means saying that they are shopping him, but they could conceivable shop him and it could be beneficial. The Subban trade is a good example: Trading a contract to free up space for a bigger offensive fish. Again, and I want to make this clear, I am not saying they are shopping him or that it would happen. Okay? Just that it could conceivable be beneficial. If the Canadiens were to trade for him, their first in 2020 would have to be involved, along with a cheaper, more high-end prospect AND one of their top defensive prospects not named Romanov. Maybe 2020's first, Josh Brook and Ylonen? Zero money returning, which helps them in free agency while stock piling high-end future assets. AGAIN, I am not saying that it will happen, or even that it makes sense, I am just saying that it's possible.</div></div>
I get that there are reasons where he could be moved (Ehlers for example - the Flyers take a small amount of cap back, swap two good players coming off down years and address teams needs).
That said Sanheim and Ghost can both play either side. Hagg is terrible and will hopefully be moved out to make Morin the 7th. It's also worth remembering that Provorov wasn't brilliant last season, and expecting Sanheim to be awesome again is a gamble (though a reasonable one). Ghost gives a huge insurance policy. There's a very strong chance he bounces back IMO just because he seems like the kind of guy who plays well in a good team rather than a guy who can carry the team. Frankly a pairing of Ghost - Weber seems perfect. Additionally Braun is here for one year. Ghost could easily be back in the top 4 fairly soon.
I don't think there's a free agent forward who'd give you what Ghost gives you for the same sort of cost. Ghost is understandably terrible at clearing his crease, other than that he's a very good D.
I don't really see much point in the Flyers collecting picks (first round or otherwise) in a major trade unless they're going to be instantly moved for another piece.
Basically I think the most reasonable Montreal trade is just Drouin for Ghost, but I suspect they don't want to move Drouin for precisely the reasons we shouldn't move Ghost.