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Armchair-GM
Jul. 26, 2023 at 6:02 p.m.
Thread:
lets gooooo
I've always thought that the Nylander-Pesce swap is such a win-win for both teams. Really not sure why some Leafs fans insist that there's needs to be more. Makes perfect sense.
That's way too much retention on Karlsson for SJ.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 26, 2023 at 4:33 p.m.
Thread:
my pref lines
Eklund? He definitely makes the starting lineup, probably on the top line with Hertl and Zadina. Maybe even another young forward makes it too.
I think Thrun and even Pulli got an NHL shot before Mukhamadullin. I could see him cracking into the lineup post-TDL though later on in the season.
I think one of Todd/Carpenter mayyybe makes the 23-man team, but I think they're more needed and likely to be with the Barracuda. Smith may make the 23-man roster too.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 25, 2023 at 8:28 p.m.
Thread:
Treliving Has It Under Control
Uhhh.....
No.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 25, 2023 at 5:16 p.m.
Thread:
Karlsson 3 Million Retained and Labanc Half Retained for Marner and Murray
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Marleau should be a guy any team or any player that wants to win should stay away from.</div></div>
I respectfully will not tolerate this blasphemy.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 25, 2023 at 4:59 p.m.
Thread:
Karlsson 3 Million Retained and Labanc Half Retained for Marner and Murray
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>poeticentropy</b></div><div>This is fun but what does SJ do with Marner who was obviously drugged/blackmailed into saying yes?
do they then try to flip him retained at the TDL when he has full control of where he goes so we'd have to drug/kidnap his family again? Rather Karlsson be traded for futures</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Marner's NMC stops a trade to non playoff team.</div></div>
Marner knows better than to say no to his surrogate father/big brother/uncle, Marleau.
In all seriousness, it could very well be a factor in making SJ a place where he wouldn't reject a trade.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 25, 2023 at 3:14 p.m.
Thread:
Karlsson to the Maple Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>If this were to ever happen they just flip Nylander. Why would they sign Nylander long term but not Meier?</div></div>
I think Meier was drawn to playing for a contender asap and management was still a year away from next year where they have boat loads of cap space and could really turn it around quick potentially, and Meier ofc wanted to be with fellow countryman/friend Hischier. Devils were always a perfect fit for him and management wanted to create that cap space for the time being while more importantly also getting their assets in return, so in this scenario, in the grand scheme of things which they could have planned, they'd have assets for Meier (Musty, Zetterland, Mukhamadullin, 2024 1st/2nd, cap space for the time being) as well as Nylander instead of just Meier.
Also, I'm not sure I'd have been as comfortable giving Meier the long-term extension for that amount of cap/years over Nylander from a management perspective as well. I think Nylander holds up better than Meier who plays a heavier checking game. Part of the sell to Nylander could be that they're also interested in competing soon and making a run at Lindholm or even Matthews as well in free agency, with many of Eklund Smith Musty Bystedt Mukhamadullin Gushchin Thrun Pulli as young guns who'll also be able to help the team win as early as next year as supporting casts (hopefully Eklund will be further along than those guys as a key lynchpin like Nylander).
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 22, 2023 at 5:25 p.m.
Thread:
Realistic but Pessimistic Hurricanes Karlsson Deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_and_Sens_Fan</b></div><div>The retention would cost more assets. I’d want at least a 1st to retain that much for 4 years and use up a retention slot.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>evelutions2</b></div><div>Value wise, Canes take it. They would need EK at a lower cap hit though, so SJ would have to eat the maximum they are willing to, and Chicago or Arizona would have to eat about 3mil to bring it close to 5-6mil. Unfortunately, whether he ends up with Pittsburgh or Carolina, or some mystery dark horse team, SJ is going to have to take it in the shorts with retention.</div></div>
What's the max cap hit threshold you think Canes/Pens would accept EK65 at? 7? Lower?
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 21, 2023 at 5:06 p.m.
Thread:
Matt Murray can not go on LTIR if he has no long term injury
Concussions can be determined as long-term injuries. I think that's the hold-up.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 21, 2023 at 5:05 p.m.
Thread:
The Only EK trade that makes sense
Blomqvist instead of Murashov and a 2025 1st instead of a 2025 3rd and it's a deal.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 21, 2023 at 2:15 p.m.
Thread:
Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>I like the Ottawa trade.
Not to sure about the trade with San Jose.
If you take Kevin Lablanc out and put in a draft pick it would the trade a lot more sense.
Agree or Disagree?</div></div>
Put in a draft pick attached to Myers to send for future considerations, right? Myers does not have draft-pick return value at his cap hit.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 21, 2023 at 5:21 a.m.
Thread:
better than many people think
No yeah no... that's gonna be a no from SJ dawg.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 20, 2023 at 8:45 p.m.
Thread:
3 Way Blockbuster Karlsson Trade Between Sharks Hurricanes Predators
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac555</b></div><div>I think your issue is with the word untouchable. Let’s replace that with ‘you’d have to knock our socks off’.
Adding him into a deal like this does not knock your sock off. You’re almost giving away Jarvis for nothing in this situation. You’re giving up Jarvis, Pesce, 1st and 2nd for EK at $6m and Zetterlund (who probably doesn’t even crack the lineup).</div></div>
It's mind-boggling how Erik Karlsson just had a season for the ages with a 100-point season, played in all 82 games last season, won the norris, here you're locking him in for 4 more years at only 6mil (as an elite defenseman he'll likely decline slower than forwards and will decline post 36-37), and yet you define that as 'nothing'. Incredible.
Karlsson at 9.5mil or so has less value and wouldn't warrant Jarvis. That's true. But at 6mil? It's within reason.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 20, 2023 at 4:02 p.m.
Thread:
3 Way Blockbuster Karlsson Trade Between Sharks Hurricanes Predators
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>Top prospects?
Even without having to retain on EK, NSH isn't moving Askarov for a rental 2nd pair defenceman they don't have room for, two lackluster prospects, and a 2nd.</div></div>
Pesce very likely would resign with Nashville. He doesn't want Canada. He doesn't want the West coast. He'll stick around in Nashville if they pay him fair value. If a team can't make room for Brett Pesce then they must be a dynasty on defense.
Bordeleau isn't a lackluster prospect. He's got serious 2C upside. Weisblatt is a former 1st whose value went down the past few seasons but has regained his form as of late. He was noticeably the 2nd best player on the ice in SJ's developmental camp game a few weeks ago behind Musty. SJ has drafted/signed too many RWs of late, so he's expendable only in that sense.
The PHI 2024 2nd included in the deal here has plenty of value since it'll more than likely be in the 33-37 range. PHI will suck this season.
Askarov's a great top-6-7 goalie prospect in the league. But let's not pretend a team has to move heaven and earth to be able to acquire him. No one's trading a grade-A+ prospect for him. And he'll have to wait a long, long time in NSH behind their goalies, which is why they were open to shopping him as part of a package deal for a higher pack in the 2023 draft. Bordeleau+Weisblatt+a high 2024 2nd is perfectly fair value -- it's just a matter of if NSH decides to trade one of their goalies instead of Askarov, which doesn't seem to be the case.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 18, 2023 at 3:46 a.m.
Thread:
maybe this
I like the idea of Petry coming to SJ and then being flipped to TOR for Murray (who only haas 1 year left on his deal instead of 2 like Petry). But not sure TOR can fit Petry in their cap unless they trade Nylander and/or a dman.
SJ's not retaining 4.5mil though. And if they somehow agree to doing that, it won't be for Granlund + Petry/Murray, a late 2024 1st, and with all due respect to the prospects included, not those prospects.
Also, that COL trade doesn't make sense for either team. If SJ shipped Barbs and Benning, it'd be for picks, not another LDman. And COL, if they were shopping Girard at all, would want more.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 17, 2023 at 3:14 a.m.
Thread:
3 way with EDM and Pens
With Ferraro, Vlasic, Knyzhov, Thrun, Pulli, Simek, Macdonald, the last thing the Sharks need is to add 2 more LDmen to their roster while adding both Granlund and Petry as well as retaining 3.5mil on EK65 for 4 more years.
Deal doesn't make sense for SJ.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 15, 2023 at 4:23 p.m.
Thread:
EK65 trade already
Ok. Some of these Karlsson trade proposals are getting ridiculous.
So the Sharks are 1) retaining HALF, 2) taking on Petry, AND 3) taking on Granlund?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2023 at 9:15 p.m.
Thread:
SJ Keep EK65 Sign Matthews Pesce Wilson in 2024 Buyout Vlasic Trade for Askarov
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AEcho</b></div><div>It was a high asking price for one of those picks, but Askarov + 15thOA and 24thOA is a lot to give up. He is NSH's future in goal and the fact that Trotz was openly selling him for that pick says a lot. That was the asking price for Askarov, but since that isn't there anymore it will take a lot more than what was presented here to move him, especially to San Jose. As Ennis stated earlier, I'm certain that Trotz would still entertain offers, but the asking price will likely still be insane.</div></div>
To be fair, Weisblatt isn't a throwaway piece either. I know his stock has been down but just last week he was the standout player in the development camp scrimmage (behind only Musty). I agree the offer's on the low end, but it's not by much. I think maybe adding the NJD 2nd/1st to Bordeleau and Weisblatt gets it done. Sharks have a surplus of RH-forwards in the AHL so he's expendable in that sense, as is Bordeleau given Smith+Bystedt if SJ targets a top center in free agency next year. Askarov's going to wait a long time to be the future in NSH and I think this trade is fair and makes sense for all sides.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2023 at 5:52 p.m.
Thread:
3 Team Trade - TOR POV
SJ is getting NOTHING in this proposal and they're retaining a crazy amount. Insane...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2023 at 2:56 p.m.
Thread:
SJ Keep EK65 Sign Matthews Pesce Wilson in 2024 Buyout Vlasic Trade for Askarov
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>Zadina in your top 6. Nice.</div></div>
You can swap him and Barabanov, who's a solid 2nd liner who usually plays with Couture, and have him on the 3rd line instead, but Zadina's a decent bet for a bounce-back season playing alongside Eklund and Hertl and I project him to have a good year with SJ and stick around.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2023 at 2:50 p.m.
Thread:
SJ Keep EK65 Sign Matthews Pesce Wilson in 2024 Buyout Vlasic Trade for Askarov
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ennis</b></div><div>Sharks need Bordeleau and Preds need Askarov.</div></div>
I can see this Bordeleau Askarov swap. NSH is reportedly entertaining offers for him (whether they should or not is a separate discussion). If Bordeleau doesn't (or even hasn't) impressed with Grier -- he wasn't his pick -- and/or doesnt' make the jump to the NHL quickly, Grier can sign one of Lindholm/Matthews (Patty+Jumbo+a young up and coming team+maybe some roots in the bay area can lure him) and also have Hertl+Couture below them at center with Smith+Bystedt coming in soon. They have no clear goalie of the future though. It's a fair trade I think that makes a lot of sense for SJ and a trade I think NSH considers and could take.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2023 at 2:37 p.m.
Thread:
Red Wings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AStovetop</b></div><div>Sharks take Chiarot and buy him out after this year. the cap hit for a Chiarot buyout is only one year more than an EK retention and is:
- 24-25: $1,083,333
- 25-26: $2,083,333
- 26-27: $1,583,333
- 27-28: $1,583,333
As opposed to to the 3.5-5.75 mil most (fans) want Sharks to retain on EK until 26-27. It also keeps two retention slots open for deadline deals, instead of being limited to 1 for the next 2 years</div></div>
Very good point. Favorable buyout cap penalty for sure.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2023 at 2:52 a.m.
Thread:
Red Wings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLLGRW</b></div><div>You have to take Ben Chiarot or retain 4-5 million</div></div>
In that case it's an easy Sharks decline.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2023 at 2:49 a.m.
Thread:
Red Wings
I think Sharks consider it and ultimately do it if Chiarot is swapped with a 2024 1st and SJ retains say 1.5-2mil.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 10, 2023 at 9:12 p.m.
Thread:
Weird Trade
It's indeed a weird trade to think that it'll only cost Robertson to move Murray.
Two 3rds does the trick. No need for Robertson.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 10, 2023 at 5:16 p.m.
Thread:
Sharks Roster Assuming EK65 Stays Put and Signing Zadina to a 1 Year 1 Mil Deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Waffelz</b></div><div>He was a basically getting scratched on the Red Wings, it's very, very, very, unlikely he starts the year on the top line. So yeah, I'll stick with 0%. If I end up wrong, then that means he magically turned into a 1st line caliber player for $1.1m, so I won't be mad either way.</div></div>
At least give it a 1% chance :tearsofjoy
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