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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 29 at 4:17 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 10, 2023 at 12:33 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Prime_Jimbo</b></div><div>He's gonna be traded. No way he's in SJ all year</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChevelsDayOff</b></div><div>literally my first thought when san jose acquired was “hmm wonder how much he fetches at the deadline?” i believe grier traded for duclair for the explicit purpose of flipping him lol</div></div>

Unless Duclair voices he wants to leave/ won’t extend for a fair deal (wants to fish in UFA/ go on a run) - there’s a high probability he stays in SJS. There’s a lot of positive internal and external content surrounding the Sharks that there’s been a mutual and positive impact of Duclair in the dressing room and with Eklund - Bordeleau- Zetterlund. I would say it’s far from a guarantee and that none of the Sharks writers believe he’s a lock for staying or being traded - it’s very fluid.

Going 8-7-1 since the laughable start, the Sharks culture is going in a positive direction which is important to rebuilding teams - and have to hand it to Quinn. If Duclair and team have mutual interest which each week more and more it seems that there is.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dan_the_Man</b></div><div>Don't see Greer trading Duclair unless he gets an offer he can't refuse. This isn't that.</div></div>

Is basically 100% spot on and what I’ve been saying for a nearly a couple weeks now.

If things keep trending the way they are from the content + writers + the teams performance; with what we’ve been seeing; Grier isn’t going to cause problems internally for a 3rd and a toss in.
Forum: Winnipeg JetsOct. 6, 2023 at 6:18 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wilson_W_Wilson_Jr</b></div><div>How many times has Winnipeg won a cup?

I mean, I can't speak for Winnipeg Jets fans, but the end goal is to win.

If GM's "want to avoid the hard decisions, you probably shouldn't have these jobs". - Vegas Golden Knights General Manager, and Stanley Cup Champion, Kelly McCrimmon.

Maybe the Jets and their fans could look at this from a fresh perspective of, we can do better than this. Or maybe they are happy and satisfied with the status quo.</div></div>

A third of the league has never won a cup. Unless you're counting the Jets twice because of Arizona, it's not exactly unusual for a team to not have a cup. The Jets cup drought is 29 seasons long (1979-80 through 1995-96 is 17 from the original Jets + 2011-12 through 2022-23 is 12 for Jets 2.0). This leaves them tied for 20th longest drought with the Canadiens and Panthers (also 29 seasons), and shorter than the rest of the Canadian teams (if you care about that sort of thing). Winning is obviously the ultimate goal, but only one team wins every year.

It's not like the Jets haven't been a successful organization since they've come back either. 5 playoff appearances since relocating from Atlanta (COVID play-in round doesn't count as playoffs IMO), 4 of which have been in the last 6 years. 3 round wins and one conference final appearance to boot. Even you have to admit that for a small market NHL team in a city where players don't want to live, that's pretty impressive.

Kevin Cheveldayoff was able to build a regular playoff team out of good drafting (except for Stanley and Vesalainen) and even better trades. I think Cheveldayoff is a GM who is thoughtful and makes the hard decisions when they need to be made. I don't agree with everything he's done, but he consistently provides a talented pool of players.

You really have to keep in mind that he's managing a team based in Winnipeg. He has a hand tied behind his back compared to other GMs in the league, he can't sign a free agent. Go and look, every meaningful Jets player was either drafted by the Jets or traded for. The biggest free agent signing the Jets have made since coming back is <em>Mathieu Perreault</em> back in 2014 and we had to pay $3mil to get him to come play here. All the other free agent signings are depth and fringe players just looking for a spot on any NHL roster. In short, Kevin Cheveldayoff has to give up assets to acquire basically any valuable player he didn't draft. The fact that he can extract every drop of value out of those assets is the only reason the Jets are any good whatsoever.

Some insane returns on Chevy trades that come to mind are:
- Laine and Roslovic -&gt; PLD and a 3rd(Danil Zhilkin);
- PLD -&gt; Vilardi, Iafallo, Kupari and a 2nd(2024);
- Trouba -&gt; Pionk and a 1st(Ville Heinola);
- Andrew Copp and a 6th -&gt; Barron, a 1st(Lambert), a 2nd(Salomonsson), and a 5th(Milic); [This one still baffles me that he got all that for Copp]
- Kane and Bogosian -&gt; Joel Armia, Tyler Myers, Drew Stafford, Brendan Lemieux and a 1st (Roslovic)

Nearly all of these guys were leaving at the end of the year they were traded in (Bogosian got caught in the crossfire), and somehow Cheveldayoff extracted all that value from them.

And of course, I can't claim that Kevin does a good job bringing in players for assets without giving some examples:
- 2013 3rd and 5th -&gt; Michael Frolik
- Erik Foley and 2018 1st -&gt; <strong>Paul Stastny</strong> (the first time)
- 2019 6th -&gt; Nathan Beaulieu (capable 7th guy for many years)
- 2020 7th -&gt; Matt Hendricks (had to include the beauty)
- 2020 3rd -&gt; <strong>Dylan DeMelo</strong>
- Carl Dahlström and a 2022 4th -&gt; Paul Stastny (the second time, see what I mean about signing free agents?)
- 2022 and 2023 2nds -&gt; <strong>Brenden Dillon</strong>
- 2022 3rd -&gt; Nate Schmidt (overpaid but otherwise solid player)
- 2023 4th -&gt; Appleton (the second time, expansion draft)
- 2024 2nd -&gt; <strong>Nino Niederreiter</strong>
- 2025 5th -&gt; Vladislav Namestnikov (just a solid roster player for another couple years)

Of course we would rather be winning cups every year and signing studs every off-season, but no one wins the cup every year and Winnipeg isn't a fun or exciting city to live in during the winter. Look, I know you're just some kid yelling into the void of the internet for someone to argue with and I'm just the idiot that responded. I know you don't like Kevin Cheveldayoff because he looks like Pong Krell from <em>Star Wars: the Clone Wars</em>, which, although he does, isn't a valid reason to dismiss his successes in the situation that he's in. He makes the Jets a profitable organization year after year, he drafts well (except Stanley and Vesa), he get ludicrous returns on trades, and he has consistently provided the talent necessary for the jets to be a playoff team. He's not winning any awards, but he hasn't been fired because he's damn good at doing a really tough job compared to the challenges other GMs face.

To the Jets fans tired of this guy's tomfoolery, I wrote this so y'all could enjoy reading it. I think we definitely appreciate Chevy enough, but it's nice to see examples of some of the magic that man performs in the front office.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 7, 2023 at 2:04 a.m.