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Forum:
NHL Signings
Mar. 2 at 11:47 a.m.
Thread:
Vancouver Canucks signed Elias Pettersson (8 Years / $11,600,000 AAV)
Good signing for Pettersson, great signing for the Canucks, good signing for CapFriendly because now we won't see any more "imaginative" Pettersson-to-here-there-and-everywhere trade proposals.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 29 at 4:01 p.m.
Thread:
Every team top center ranking
Looks like the random number generator did a solid job on your list
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 29 at 4:18 p.m.
Thread:
Jets arent done
Can we replace Stanley with Montreal's 2nd? He really doesn't seem like a piece anyone really wants.
I don't think the Flyers are gonna trade TK at this point, but my initial value for him was a high end prospect, a 1st, and a 2nd so I'd use that as a base, which will likely raise given his point production.
The Walker deal seems fine though.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 29 at 4:22 p.m.
Thread:
Jets arent done
I think this is fairly close, but there'd have to be a couple of assumptions/changes made here:
1) Briere would have to be seriously convinced that Perfetti could be a Center long term in Philly
2) I think it'd have to be something other than Chibrikov if Perfetti were the main piece being sent back. I like him a ton as a prospect, but Philly has already expressed concerns regarding the size of their forward corp, so they're not giving up their best player in a package involving 2 guys who are 5'10
I very, very, very highly doubt TK is dealt at this point, but Perfetti would be the sort of guy I'd imagine would make Philly consider a deal
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 29 at 4:17 p.m.
Thread:
Jets arent done
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>smkruzik</b></div><div>I think you hold having letters to a much higher degree than you should. A letter doesn't make anyone untouchable. It doesn't add more value in terms of a return than not having one.
Not grading the deal; just saying letters aren't going to make or break a trade</div></div>
Having a letter is not the point he was just given the letter on February 16th. What team in their right mind goes and has a big press release to announce that they have added a new captain and alternate captain and then trades them 2 weeks later? That would be completely stupid. Honestly I think they gave TK a letter because they are trading their other alternate captain in Laughton. I could care less about the letter, it's the timing.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 3 at 9:17 a.m.
Thread:
Excited to see how monahan fits
Losing a first that was gonna be lower than pick 26 isn’t really a big deal when we also have the habs 2nd which will be a high pick.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 3 at 9:20 a.m.
Thread:
Excited to see how monahan fits
He's gonna be amazing. I think many Jets fans underestimate him just like Habs fans did before we picked him up.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 3 at 9:32 a.m.
Thread:
Excited to see how monahan fits
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bnormie46</b></div><div>Losing a first that was gonna be lower than pick 26 isn’t really a big deal when we also have the habs 2nd which will be a high pick.</div></div>
I agree. The difference in value between the WPG 1st and the MTL 2nd is roughly the equivalent of an 80th overall pick (mid-to-late 3rd rounder). I used The Athletic's historical draft pick valuations they published a couple of years ago to do the rough math.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 1 at 8:06 p.m.
Thread:
it is thursday
I like and wanted Demelo in my last acgm, but he's playing top pair for Wpg, and if this is how much it would be, I think they would match.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 1 at 5:07 p.m.
Thread:
SJS Trade
The 2 1st round picks for Lucius and 2024 is interesting. But, having to retain is an absolute no-go.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 1 at 4:10 p.m.
Thread:
SJS Trade
Sharks decline.
Don't really have to trade Couts.
Appleton is ok.
Chaz Lucius is a great name.
Stanley is a road pylon.
Very late 1st.
Doesn't move the needle for me. 😬
But it's the 3 1/2 years of retention which kills it.
We're already retaining on Burns and Karlsson.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 30 at 1:27 p.m.
Thread:
Montreal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div>Who would you rather they spend a 1st on?</div></div>
Lindholm or someone that none of us know is available.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 30 at 12:53 p.m.
Thread:
Realistic trade deadline
This one is closer than most with realistic in the title.
TB Sheary nixes that and TB has no interest in Savard.
Not really sure why Winnipeg wants Pearson.
Personally don't see Monihan getting a 1+
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 2 at 7:58 p.m.
Thread:
My 12 and 0 fantasy team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChevelsDayOff</b></div><div>im also 12-0 in one of my leagues (10 people), largely on the back of makar and rantanen with the 9th and 12th picks</div></div>
Congrats bro. Post your roster
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 21, 2023 at 12:05 a.m.
Thread:
Glass
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Neither player does anything for Winnipeg. Easy no for Winnipeg.</div></div>
Notice Winnipeg's PP during your cheap beer blackouts?
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 20, 2023 at 9:21 p.m.
Thread:
Copp
While we have Winnipeg's GM hostage, we'll also take Connor and Morrissey.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 20, 2023 at 6:46 p.m.
Thread:
Flames
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>I don't know if Winnipeg must get both Tanev & Lindholm.
Why would Winnipeg need Elias Lindholm when they have good skilled players on their roster?</div></div>
Not a single true top 6 C other than Scheifele… Lindholm, or another top 6 C, is an absolute need
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 20, 2023 at 6:24 p.m.
Thread:
Flames
I don't know if Winnipeg must get both Tanev & Lindholm.
Why would Winnipeg need Elias Lindholm when they have good skilled players on their roster?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 17, 2023 at 11:33 p.m.
Thread:
This isnt because he just got a hattrick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChevelsDayOff</b></div><div>im not sure if henrique is a real target or what his price would be but i definitely agree we need faceoff help (and both special teams for that matter)</div></div>
Kind of sounds like Henrique is exactly who you need.
2nd is a good starting point, us ANA fans have been saying 2nd and a B prospect and retention is thrown in at the TDL.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 13, 2023 at 9:40 p.m.
Thread:
All active NHL players drafted by the Jets
I like this, do you mind if I do one for the leafs?
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 10, 2023 at 12:33 a.m.
Thread:
Solving the top 6
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Prime_Jimbo</b></div><div>He's gonna be traded. No way he's in SJ all year</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChevelsDayOff</b></div><div>literally my first thought when san jose acquired was “hmm wonder how much he fetches at the deadline?” i believe grier traded for duclair for the explicit purpose of flipping him lol</div></div>
Unless Duclair voices he wants to leave/ won’t extend for a fair deal (wants to fish in UFA/ go on a run) - there’s a high probability he stays in SJS. There’s a lot of positive internal and external content surrounding the Sharks that there’s been a mutual and positive impact of Duclair in the dressing room and with Eklund - Bordeleau- Zetterlund. I would say it’s far from a guarantee and that none of the Sharks writers believe he’s a lock for staying or being traded - it’s very fluid.
Going 8-7-1 since the laughable start, the Sharks culture is going in a positive direction which is important to rebuilding teams - and have to hand it to Quinn. If Duclair and team have mutual interest which each week more and more it seems that there is.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dan_the_Man</b></div><div>Don't see Greer trading Duclair unless he gets an offer he can't refuse. This isn't that.</div></div>
Is basically 100% spot on and what I’ve been saying for a nearly a couple weeks now.
If things keep trending the way they are from the content + writers + the teams performance; with what we’ve been seeing; Grier isn’t going to cause problems internally for a 3rd and a toss in.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 10, 2023 at 12:03 a.m.
Thread:
How far
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChevelsDayOff</b></div><div>second round exit. old or not that top 6 is still great. sanderson seider and power are the real deal.</div></div>
All six dmen are real deal. Just young.
All top-six forwards are greats. Just old.
(Youth is wasted on the young, I suppose)
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 9, 2023 at 5:49 p.m.
Thread:
Rest of season standings predictions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>seanrushton</b></div><div>Aho is a superstar... A PPG player in a system that suppresses offense while being a well above average defensive forward and being able to be lethal in all situations... how is that not a superstar?</div></div>
A superstar should be top 5 in their position at minimum, otherwise you risk watering down the definition - not everyone gets a superstar badge. Doubt Aho is even a top 10 centre
Forum:
Winnipeg Jets
Oct. 6, 2023 at 6:18 p.m.
Thread:
Why is Kevin Cheveldayoff still a GM in this league?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wilson_W_Wilson_Jr</b></div><div>How many times has Winnipeg won a cup?
I mean, I can't speak for Winnipeg Jets fans, but the end goal is to win.
If GM's "want to avoid the hard decisions, you probably shouldn't have these jobs". - Vegas Golden Knights General Manager, and Stanley Cup Champion, Kelly McCrimmon.
Maybe the Jets and their fans could look at this from a fresh perspective of, we can do better than this. Or maybe they are happy and satisfied with the status quo.</div></div>
A third of the league has never won a cup. Unless you're counting the Jets twice because of Arizona, it's not exactly unusual for a team to not have a cup. The Jets cup drought is 29 seasons long (1979-80 through 1995-96 is 17 from the original Jets + 2011-12 through 2022-23 is 12 for Jets 2.0). This leaves them tied for 20th longest drought with the Canadiens and Panthers (also 29 seasons), and shorter than the rest of the Canadian teams (if you care about that sort of thing). Winning is obviously the ultimate goal, but only one team wins every year.
It's not like the Jets haven't been a successful organization since they've come back either. 5 playoff appearances since relocating from Atlanta (COVID play-in round doesn't count as playoffs IMO), 4 of which have been in the last 6 years. 3 round wins and one conference final appearance to boot. Even you have to admit that for a small market NHL team in a city where players don't want to live, that's pretty impressive.
Kevin Cheveldayoff was able to build a regular playoff team out of good drafting (except for Stanley and Vesalainen) and even better trades. I think Cheveldayoff is a GM who is thoughtful and makes the hard decisions when they need to be made. I don't agree with everything he's done, but he consistently provides a talented pool of players.
You really have to keep in mind that he's managing a team based in Winnipeg. He has a hand tied behind his back compared to other GMs in the league, he can't sign a free agent. Go and look, every meaningful Jets player was either drafted by the Jets or traded for. The biggest free agent signing the Jets have made since coming back is <em>Mathieu Perreault</em> back in 2014 and we had to pay $3mil to get him to come play here. All the other free agent signings are depth and fringe players just looking for a spot on any NHL roster. In short, Kevin Cheveldayoff has to give up assets to acquire basically any valuable player he didn't draft. The fact that he can extract every drop of value out of those assets is the only reason the Jets are any good whatsoever.
Some insane returns on Chevy trades that come to mind are:
- Laine and Roslovic -> PLD and a 3rd(Danil Zhilkin);
- PLD -> Vilardi, Iafallo, Kupari and a 2nd(2024);
- Trouba -> Pionk and a 1st(Ville Heinola);
- Andrew Copp and a 6th -> Barron, a 1st(Lambert), a 2nd(Salomonsson), and a 5th(Milic); [This one still baffles me that he got all that for Copp]
- Kane and Bogosian -> Joel Armia, Tyler Myers, Drew Stafford, Brendan Lemieux and a 1st (Roslovic)
Nearly all of these guys were leaving at the end of the year they were traded in (Bogosian got caught in the crossfire), and somehow Cheveldayoff extracted all that value from them.
And of course, I can't claim that Kevin does a good job bringing in players for assets without giving some examples:
- 2013 3rd and 5th -> Michael Frolik
- Erik Foley and 2018 1st -> <strong>Paul Stastny</strong> (the first time)
- 2019 6th -> Nathan Beaulieu (capable 7th guy for many years)
- 2020 7th -> Matt Hendricks (had to include the beauty)
- 2020 3rd -> <strong>Dylan DeMelo</strong>
- Carl Dahlström and a 2022 4th -> Paul Stastny (the second time, see what I mean about signing free agents?)
- 2022 and 2023 2nds -> <strong>Brenden Dillon</strong>
- 2022 3rd -> Nate Schmidt (overpaid but otherwise solid player)
- 2023 4th -> Appleton (the second time, expansion draft)
- 2024 2nd -> <strong>Nino Niederreiter</strong>
- 2025 5th -> Vladislav Namestnikov (just a solid roster player for another couple years)
Of course we would rather be winning cups every year and signing studs every off-season, but no one wins the cup every year and Winnipeg isn't a fun or exciting city to live in during the winter. Look, I know you're just some kid yelling into the void of the internet for someone to argue with and I'm just the idiot that responded. I know you don't like Kevin Cheveldayoff because he looks like Pong Krell from <em>Star Wars: the Clone Wars</em>, which, although he does, isn't a valid reason to dismiss his successes in the situation that he's in. He makes the Jets a profitable organization year after year, he drafts well (except Stanley and Vesa), he get ludicrous returns on trades, and he has consistently provided the talent necessary for the jets to be a playoff team. He's not winning any awards, but he hasn't been fired because he's damn good at doing a really tough job compared to the challenges other GMs face.
To the Jets fans tired of this guy's tomfoolery, I wrote this so y'all could enjoy reading it. I think we definitely appreciate Chevy enough, but it's nice to see examples of some of the magic that man performs in the front office.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 7, 2023 at 2:04 a.m.
Thread:
selling hard not serious
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChevelsDayOff</b></div><div>id love to have pulock and ive seen lots of trades with ehlers going the other way but i think winnipeg keeps him. not sure what a fair package of picks/prospects would look like for pulock and would depend on the isle’s direction too.
havent watched much of their games, is there something lambert is doing specifically thats drawn the ire of fans?</div></div>
Team blows leads left and right with him. Undisciplined, can’t stay out of the box. Changes lines when the team is playing well, refuses to change them when the team struggles, doesn’t call a single timeout when the team is in the middle of blowing leads (see SJS game), when other teams call timeouts and actually talk to their players, Lambert paces and says nothing. Puts super slow players (Anders Lee) on the ice when other team has extra attackers and big surprise we can’t keep up and get trapped for 2 straight minutes in the zone, runs top d-men into the ground so they’re dead tired by the late 3rd (Mike Reilly was dominant in the sharks game and still couldn’t crack 13 minutes, meanwhile Sam Bolduc who should be in the AHL at best is up at 18 minutes). Lambert got asked after like the 4th blown lead this year and said it’s not a trend. Now it’s like the 10th+ time it’s happened
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