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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 1 at 11:19 a.m.
Thread: Does Minnesota even listen to this offer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Kotkaniemi and JEE are much more comparable than you think. KK's offense isn't much worse, and he's analytically better defensively than JEE. They're closer in value than a lot of people think, I wouldn't move one for the other, especially because the wild, as you put it "inexplicably" extended JEE for a long time too!</div></div>

Granted, Kotkaniemi is younger and has a few years to get to JEE's level. But, according to hockey-reference.com for 23-24:

Plus/Minus: JEE +10, Kotkaniemi -11
Blocks: JEE 38, Kotkaniemi 24
Expected +/-: JEE 3.0, Kotkaniemi: 1.4
Team On-Ice Save %: JEE .904, Kotkaniemi .889
Team On-Ice Shooting %: JEE 11.4, Kotkiemi 6.7
Relative Fenwick For %: JEE 3.4, Kotkaniemi 0.2
Relative Corsi For %: JEE 2.9, Kotkaniemi -1.3
Defensive Point Shares: JEE 1.5, Kotkaniemi 0.5

All while JEE plays on a much worse team this season. So... yea, disagree on the analytics claim.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 1 at 9:36 a.m.
Thread: Does Minnesota even listen to this offer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac555</b></div><div>Likely not considering that Minny has a lot of issues with their Cap, but JEE isn’t one of them.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>evelutions2</b></div><div>Canes don’t consider any of these. If the Wild have any plans to trade JEE, the Canes probably go for Necas and a 1st as the centerpiece of the deal instead.</div></div>

Yea the Wild don't do this trade. Kotkaniemi is a worse version of JEE who the Canes inexplicably extended for eight years as soon as they got him, and Suzuki is a useless throw-in. With their cap problems through next season, a hypothetical JEE trade would involve a Necas + blue-chip prospect with an ELC instead of picks.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 29, 2023 at 4:23 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 16, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.
Thread: grit and depth
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swinny</b></div><div>The issue with that trade construct is Hartman's contract maybe the best in the NHL. Being a 50-60 point guy with jam and can play centre has value. Getting that at $1.9 million? That makes him a very very valuable commodity that in this construct takes away from a Nylander return. Now, his market value as a UFAis tougher to gauge, but I would be thinking the baseline of a new deal is around Trochek..... and depnding on the term, that could still look OK.

But, if Willy wants his $10 million per, I am not sure that happens in Minny unless your aforementioned prospect are ready next year.... which they could be (I like Minny's system a lot). Not saying it couldn't be done, but it would be trickier than meets the eye.</div></div>

Good points, that particular package would be very unlikely. Thus my comment about seeing whether Nylander just gets to UFA and try to sign him there instead. The Wild will need Hartman, Foligno, and the other cheap contracts this season. That will make getting Nylander much more unlikely, as I assume if he gets traded he would sign an extension with the team he lands on. But he ain't the only big name out there... i.e., an Elias Lindholm would be a better fit based on the Wild's needs, especially if the C prospects aren't up to expectation.

I would include Pettersson there too, but his trade/re-sign price will be astronomical.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 16, 2023 at 11:36 a.m.
Thread: grit and depth
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swinny</b></div><div>The Minny deal is the right idea imo, but Hartman's contract is effin' gold. Foligno is kind of meh for me in the sense of he is more the rental. Beyond that, with Minny having $14 million in dead cap, acquiring Nylander is completely not going to happen. Like the Leafs, they need to spread that money around.

Honestly I want no part of Parayko. That contract simply isn't going to age well. Moreover, in terms of offensive ability and tenacity if a deal is struck with the Blues, I would sooner look at Faulk..... shorter term and actually nastier with silimilar production.</div></div>

I like Nylander to the Wild, too. It will be another tight year in 24-25 regardless, but they could make it work. Maybe swap out the 1st for one of their current prospects though, depending on what Toronto values more. That, or more likely just wait until he gets to free agency. I think with several more contracts expiring after this coming season, they would be able to fit in his extension as long as it is around the $9-10M range.

Granted this would certainly mean moving on from Kaprizov's buddy Zuccarello, as well as Hartman who is going to be a tricky valuation. And as an aside, of Zucc/Hartman/Foligno, I actually think Guerin would be most likely to re-sign Foligno. Depends on if Rossi/Khusnutdinov can show up in the next two seasons as Hartman's replacement. Will be much easier to replace Zuccarello than Hartman, especially considering Mats' age.