May 2, 2019
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_Storm</b></div><div>Johnsson isn't an often injured player, but if you noticed Toronto this year, injury-wise it was the year from hell. He collided with Kapanen in the offensive-zone, causing that knee surgery. Honestly, I forget the concussion play, but he'd only had one prior concussion, it was right after he came over from Europe to the AHL, and it was a blatant elbow to the head that got that player suspended for 10 playoff games. Freak injuries aside, those were his only injuries in 6 years of pro hockey, it just so happened two came back-to-back, with the second being the freak knee injury. True, you can keep PP1 together, but both Johnsson/Engvall would make PP2 undoubtedly, and if you don't think Engvall has a place on your PK, you haven't seen him PK. Man is 6'5", uses his speed, stick and body tremendously to close lanes, and get the puck out of the zone. Even with McD/Drai, he'd be PK2.</div></div>
Our PK is 2nd best in the league, so theres that and lol have you seen our PP, they play the whole time except maybe the last 10 seconds when they are trying to get the lines back together. We dont have a 2nd PP. If you want Bear so bad, you got to pay the piper. And that certainly is not it.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_Storm</b></div><div>Johnsson, would be on the PP, but he wouldn't be unseeding Drai, McD, Nuge. Neal's regression makes it a wildcard, but then Yamamoto would likely step in. Johnsson would prob be the best Winger offensively on PP2 if Neal takes another step back, and Engvall likely makes PP2 as well. Both can play PK. Bear played well, but he isn't a bonafide top pair guy yet. If getting top minutes made you a top pair guy I'd be thrilled having Cody Ceci. Bear was getting about 4 minutes less than Klefbom, 3 less than Nurse, at about 21 TOI, which is right on that 2nd pair minutes area. Jones actually had better results from an analytics standpoint, but he's a LD so that doesn't work. Ultimately, if Edmonton values him very highly, then it's nothing, but in terms of young top 4 RD for young top 6 W and young top 9 C/W, both who are very fast skaters which Edmonton loves, then it's good value for both sides.</div></div>
Bear plays against other teams first and 2nd pairing. Jones plays 3rd and 4th pairing guys, so as far as those analytics go, they are out the window.
Klefbomb and Larsson have been injured so Bear has played a lot with not much PP time, which Klefbomb gets a ton of
Also Chaisson has been playing the PP for the past 20 games, even when Neal was back from injury, Chaisson was the man for net presence, Not sure if Johnsson plays right in front of the goalie on the PP to take a beating, but that was Chaisson and Neals job. Neal will probably be a buy out if there is one and Chaisson will be back to that job permanently. So the Number 1 PP in the league can continue.
Oilers will move Larsson or Benning before Bear, who is a young controlable D. Like I said, he is NOT for sale PERIOD.... Not even for the often injured Johnsson who will get more injured in the big western teams.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_Storm</b></div><div>This is a 2nd line Winger who plays PK, PP as bumper or right circle, and is a lock for 20 goals if healthy. Engvall is 6'5" C/W who skates the wind, has one of the heaviest shots on the Leafs, and quickly got onto PK1 with Toronto. Getting a top 6 W and top 9 C/W for a 2nd pair RD seems pretty fair considering both teams needs. Edmonton will still be able to run Klefbom-Larsson, Nurse-Bouchard, Jones-Russell. Unless Larsson or Bear is moved, there's no opening for Bouchard who is 100% ready for the NHL. This trade is quite fair for both teams in my opinion. Originally I was going to go 1 for 1, but added Engvall and a 3rd to tilt the scales.
In reality, Leafs fans will hate this trade due to the inclusion of both Engvall and Johnsson, and Oilers fans will think trading Bear to Toronto for anything under Nylander, which would be ludicrous and countered with Bouchard+ in that case, so ultimately, this seems like about as even a trade as you can make.</div></div>
Bear has been our best D this year. So what is a 1/2 D worth? and also like <a href="/users/kafle22" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@kafle22</a> said. Johnsson wouldnt even be on our special teams.
However the Oilers do need 1 winger to play with McDavid and a 3rd line right shot center. But we still are not trading Bear. He is part of our future.