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Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 17, 2022 at 7:29 p.m.
Thread: Game 17 possible starting roster against the Sharks
Likely line-up. Let's see where people end up. Wouldn't mind seeing Sunny or Kubalik with Veleno and Berggren in a 2nd line.

Berggren and Veleno should also be in more special teams. They barely got any TOI in Anaheim because of it.

Copp STILL remains as 2nd line Center... (Without looking it up), was he most successful in Rangers as a center or as a winger? How long will Lalonde keep him in in that position before something changes because he is underwhelming, to say the least. I know, he's on a 5y contract at a pretty steep cost so we need to get our money's worth. But honestly feels like buyers remorse.

Also sad to say that I'm disappointed by Larkin and Razor in 5v5. Far from enough puck control. I can almost hear them anxiously hyperventilating, wildly flailing their sticks, deking until they lose the puck in, and entering, the O-zone.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 5, 2022 at 11:41 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 5, 2022 at 9:35 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 28, 2022 at 12:51 p.m.
Thread: MIN Game
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>I don't think it matters. There's too many players not pulling their weight right now. They're being outhustled. No structure in place. It's basically a Chinese fire drill. Too many giveaways. We're way too easy to play against. Raymond is the biggest disappointment for me. They can't finish the few scoring chances they do have. We can't clear the crease. This is a BAD team right now. Minny should win easily.</div></div>

I've noticed a lot of your responses (pretty much all I've seen on my teams or others) aren't really constructive. Most are to insult/disagree or possibly to add weight to someone's insult. Let's be positive!! Yaaay!

That said, I mostly agree with what you're saying. But aside from the low the team is experiencing Right Now, my point is that I'm highlighting that Big E needs more ice time. That's all. Either through a top 6 position, or if necessary being sent down to GRG.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 12, 2022 at 2:26 p.m.
Thread: Next Year
Kase - I doubt SY would bring in an extra 4th line winger with the players available in AHL fighting to make the team (Soderblom, Berggren, Hanas). But maybe, to keep the roster competitive and if Pius Suter and Erne moves on too.
Gavrikov - Assuming Olli Matta doesn't extend his contract, there is also Albert Johansson who is looking good. If anything on the D-line, a right handed RD is needed.

About the trade otherwise - Agree with both previous comments.

Also - Doubtful the first line would be changed. Last season they had great chemistry and assuming Lalonde's influence doesn't change that, I don't see the first line changing anytime soon. Possibly if Bert moves on a slot will open up.

Kasper is a maybe. He's been looking good this season in the SHL thus far. He will likely get a year in the AHL before stepping into the NHL.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 11, 2022 at 8:30 p.m.
Thread: Def4Off
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>With the acquisition of Weegar, Kylington is the odd man out and is the Trade Bait we have to offer for a Forward

We’d need retention on Bertuzzi at an additional cost, sure a 2nd or I’d gamble with Kubalik but he’s not enough and we don’t want picks, we want guys that can contribute now or the next season or two, since you are correct we’re making a run for the cup

Fabbro &amp; Vrana are of little interest to us since we can’t bank on them being healthy and available, leaving us short handed or scrambling to create new line chemistry come playoff time

Kylington makes sense for DET AFAIC. He’s young and has room to improve as a puck moving &amp; mobile d-man who can play both sides. He’s just not needed in CGY as much as another forward</div></div>

I could see a Kylington + 1rd Round pick -23, for Bertuzzi with 1m+ retained.
2 caveats - Bert is coming up on UFA 23 and is likely looking at at pay rise looking at how he's performed. Also, how will Kylington's injury affect him? How long is he out and how good will he be once he returns?

All this said, there are other options for the D-line available all things considered. Edvinsson is going to be joining soon enough along with Albert Johansson and Lindstrom is already playing a pretty solid RD. This trade was originally to look at what the reaction would be to get Andersson for Vrana. Although plenty of Detroit fans borderline would die for Vrana, I am not so convinced myself (but would love to be proven wrong). I wouldn't fall off my chair in chock if I saw that trade happen considering the needs of either teams.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 11, 2022 at 7:48 p.m.
Thread: Def4Off
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>?

Im not an idiot. Kylington is simply a top 4 dman making 2.5M. just because you can't appreciate his value doesn't mean my views on him are bad. I would value Kylington at around 2 2nds.</div></div>

What is Kylington worth to Calgary's roster at this point in time though? It's not just looking at him as a player isolated. If there were to be a hypothetical trade for Calgary for Kylington (or Andersson either for that matter), do you want to trade for a rebuild or for a cup run? Kubalik would be a fair trade for Kylington (Offensive depth for Defensive depth). Even Vrana or Bertuzzi would be an ok trade assuming Calgary added something, like a 2nd round draft (23 or 24). Although that would cause some Cap problems.. With Weegar now on the team, Calgary have room to let Kylington move to a team who could make good use of a young RD. Meanwhile Calgary picks up someone with a proven goal scoring ability to add some depth to your Offense. Like Kylington for Kubalik. Or Vrana for Andersson.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 11, 2022 at 3:06 p.m.
Thread: Def4Off
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Datsyukian</b></div><div>First you come up with "Vrana and Elmo are interchangeable", and now this nonsense....

Your math is off - that's the nicest way I can put it.</div></div>

How is the math wrong? Something a bit more constructive would be appreciated then. Calgary fans are saying the trade would be way better for Detroit and Detroit fans are saying it's way better for Calgary. I honestly tend to agree with them on this one and wanted to check what the feedback would be on that kind of trade proposed.

Also - Please re-read the Elmo/Vrana comments and note the scope of how they would be interchangeable.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>So who would they include with Kylington for Vrana!? OR what would you offer as compensation for DET retaining 50% on Vrana for 2 years if they were willing to do so? I don't think Kylington by himself is enough for Vrana. I don't disagree with you on Zadorov, but I also don't want to offer Dube. If we did give up an LD, I'd want Hagg as additional depth in return</div></div>

How about we throw you a Berggren with Vrana (assuming he is promised a top 6 position by next season) for Andersson?
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 11, 2022 at 11:54 a.m.
Thread: Def4Off
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Easy no from Calgary</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Datsyukian</b></div><div>Yikes</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Easy no from Detroit, We're not trading Vrana anytime soon.</div></div>



No from fans on either side. That's a start. "Vrana too good" vs "Rasmussen too good". Vrana produces scoring, but is not solid enough defensively imo. Plus just look at his face.. I think a trade of Vrana for Andersson is a good trade for both sides. Even if it'll mean slightly less goals for Detroit it'll mean a bigger drop in goals against. And Calgary needs a goal scoring winger to make a run at the cup. There's solid enough defence remaining.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 10, 2022 at 11:02 a.m.
Thread: HmmYes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>I don't know what you consider impressive but Vrana in 37 games as a Red Wing he has 21 goals and 30 points and his G/60 in all situations was 2nd with only Matthews ahead of him.</div></div>

True, but I was considering how training camp/preseason looked like. I think it might be worth putting that skill level with Zadina in a 3rd line with either Suter or Rasmusses (Rasmussen imo). I guess Vrana and Elmo are largely interchangeable, but I think playstyle and speed will be relevant to what players are best suited to play with each other. Vrana/Rasmussen/Zadina just feels right and I think Elmo will work well with Perron/Copp. Just not a huge fan of burying Big E in a 4th line. But either way, however you swing it, I'm excited to see what the guys can do.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 9, 2022 at 10:29 a.m.
Thread: Opening Season Line-up
Purely looking at preseason skill levels and game contribution, Berggren and Soderblom should make it into the middle 6, but because of the below reasons I see them as starting in GR along with a few others.
- Waivers - Although not as good, Erne, Suter, Sundqvist, Veleno and Smith should remain in the mix to help maintain that competitive environment. Not surprised if SY has create this log jam to push for that competitive "playoff" mindset.
- Chemistry - Soderblom/Berggren and Edvinsson/Johansson can build chemistry in GR. Learn how to find each other through muscle memory and all that good stuff.
- TOI - As mentioned above, I would rather see Soderblom/Berggren and Edvinsson/Johansson get more TOI at this point.
- Honing Skills - Although they could get this in the RW, having an "on-ramp" allows some space to work on the areas of improvement (Soderblom on FO and speed, Berggren on Shots, Edvinsson on confidence/consistency).
- Higher pick in -23 draft - Worse case scenario, by putting "worse" players in games during this season will put us in a better position for next years draft. Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky (for once).
- NHL exposure still very much going to happen (injuries etc). &lt;9 games in NHL for these young ones WILL happen.
- 23/24 Changes - There are a fair amount of UFA/RFAs happening at which point SY &amp; Co will have a much clearer picture. At that point Kasper may also be in the mix to enter along with these guys.

Also <a href="/users/THE_OTHER_JUST_ME" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@THE_OTHER_JUST_ME</a>, it's "Soderbl<strong>o</strong>m" which translates to "South bloom" in Swedish. Berggren translates to "Mountain branch"