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Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 11, 2022 at 6:49 p.m.
Thread: Flames Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DeadWingsv2</b></div></div>
HaHa, okay whatever, keep your guys = Former 7th Rounder Kubalik was dumped by CHI for nothing and signed for free and is currently not even slotted in your Top-9, Top Prospect Joe Veleno is yet a Healthy Scratch once again and just can't seem to make the Roster on one of the Worst Teams in the NHL and other than a couple pre-season games, your 6th Rounder Elmer has ZERO North American Hockey Experience, but individually they're all much better than CGY's players. Yeah okay, so who's the homers here!?! You guys are ridiculously funny, thanks for the chuckle</div></div>

I would say Veleno has a higher ceiling than Ruzicka and has looked pretty good this preseason, that said he hasn't done much in the nhl.
Kubalik is an interesting case, former 30 goal scorer who didn't do that well on a bad team. He didn't have anyone decent to play with and I think the losing mentality wasn't good for anyone there. That said his value is pretty low right now.
Soderblom is an enigma, he has high potential and is massive but still needs alot of work. In a trade situation I would put his value pretty high.
I think personally there is more value going to Calgary. Kylington would be nice but not really a need. I personally would be more interested in Andersson to replace Hronek.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 24, 2022 at 11:36 a.m.
Thread: WhyNot
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>T0R</b></div><div>I understand your logic &amp; it makes perfect sense. &amp; since you say Sebrango isn’t the value needed to acquire Nylander what would you suggest would be the value?, We’ve seen the untouchables that are non starters, what would you consider fair &amp; willing to trade</div></div>

I'll preface this by saying I personally wouldn't make this trade if I were SY (but I'm not an NHL GM so what the hell do I know), but in terms of value only.

Nylander 6.9M x 2 - 26yo 30G 80PTS

Bertuzzi 4.75M x 1 - 27yo 30G 62PTS

To make it fair, Detroit probably has to part ways with a prospect close to being untouchable that fits a need for Toronto, like an Eemil Viro (3-5 projected D) or Carter Mazur (Lil' Bert).

That probably starts the conversation. Then the back and forth starts about Nylander's raise, Bertuzzi's extension, retention for this season on Bert, saving cap space, division rival additional costs, prospect valuations, team needs, future outlook. That is where ACGM accounts go sideways because this part gets lost. SY could tell Dubas that Mazur is Bertuzzi 2.0. Dubas could tell SY that Mazur is unproven and even though he did very well at WJC, there aren't guarantees that he hits that ceiling.