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Forum: Armchair-GM4 hours ago

Thread: bold deadline

I'd do this is I'm Philly. Watched a lot of BC games this year b/c Gauthier, so Warren is a nice addition

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 11:28 p.m.

Thread: Provo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bagelbob</b></div><div>depends on price, this is way more than he deserves based on his play over the last few years</div></div>

Defenseman are regularly overpayed and overvalued relative to their performance. Like, <em>all the time</em>. This is likely an overpay, but I can't see them not getting at least a 1st for Provorov

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 10:49 p.m.

Thread: Provo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Can't see any Canadian fan base being happy to get him</div></div>

We're talking about a team that gave Jake Virtanen a PTO this past offseason, I don't think most teams would hesitate for a second to bring him in (although I do think Provorov is an asshole)

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 5:20 p.m.

Thread: Curious what the value would be

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheAlien</b></div><div>He's on pace for 100 points while killing penalties and playing a 200ft game. That pick would have to be top 5 for the Canucks to even consider that</div></div>

If Vancouver turned down Provorov, a 2023 9th overall pick, a 2024 1st round pick (from a current non-playoff team mind you), and a NHL ready prospect with legit top-6 upside while <em>knowing Pettersson wants to be traded in this hypothetical</em>, it would be the dumbest trade rejection in recent NHL history.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 4:40 p.m.

Thread: Curious what the value would be

-VAN gets: Provorov, 2023 1st, Brink, FLA 2024 1st

-Philly gets: Pettersson.

I get Vancouver fans probably crazy overprotective of Pettersson, but every player has some finitie amount of value. A top-10 pick in a loaded draft, a top-50 leaguewide prospect, an additional 1st, and one of the most valuable defenseman being shopped on the market is an enormous package. Still don't see Vancouver moving him at all unless Pettersson asked to be trade, but in a hypothetical situation where he did request a trade, absolutely no chance Vancouver would turn down an offer like the one listed above (probably wouldn't even take quite that much tbh)

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 11:48 a.m.

Thread: Ranking 2nd overall picks

Laine should be above JVR, has shown an upside significantly higher than the best JVR has been in his career, and even in bad years is producing close to JVR's career averages

Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 7:33 p.m.

Thread: Trade Deadline Returns

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DefenseFirst</b></div><div>I just can’t see anyone taking on provorov right now. Draft day? Maybe.</div></div>

As someone who is/was very, <em>very</em> upset with Provorov for his actions, I'd be willing to bet that won't deter any teams from taking him on. As much as his opinion sucks, he didn't technically do anything terribly wrong, and teams value talent over politics 100% of the time

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 20 at 11:19 a.m.

Thread: Which team needs to contribute more to this trade

That would be a borderline unparalleled PR nightmare for the Predators, just no way in this World they contemplate anything even kind of close to this

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 17 at 6:13 p.m.

Thread: A concept

Owed vs AAV isn't usually a factor that matters much when you're talking about big market teams, which I'd consider Edmonton.

If Philly is going to take back 5.5 in Cap longer term and retain that's fine, but the actual + assets will have to be better than a 1st and Lavoie

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 17 at 6:00 p.m.

Thread: Danny Briere Revives the Flyers TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>Change Spence for Walker and LA would do it. Solves the cap problem and the fact that this is a giant overpayment by LA.</div></div>

Not really and overpayment. Cap issues aside, Frost is better than Turcotte at this point, and a 24 1st and Spence isn't a huge ask for Provorov in the current defense market

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 17 at 5:59 p.m.

Thread: Danny Briere Revives the Flyers TDL

Too many futures coming out with none of the guys coming in looking like true top end talent

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 17 at 5:57 p.m.

Thread: Winnipeg Jets

Swap Heinola with Chibrikov and I think Philly accepts.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 17 at 5:35 p.m.

Thread: Philly Rebuild

-Bit too low for Hart

-Around the right deal for Provorov

-WAY too low for Konecny

-Too high for Vancouver, a top-10 pick in this draft shouldn't be moved in a deal like that

-I wouldn't do the Seguin trade, Bourque and a late 2nd ain't enough to justify taking that contract back IMO. Fair value and interesting idea though

Forum: Mock-DraftJan. 17 at 3:01 p.m.

Thread: 2023 January Mock Draft

I'd be ecstatic if Benson fell to 9th for Philly

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 17 at 10:59 a.m.

Thread: think about this

Take out the last 2 trades and I think this would be close to a best case scenario while being fair in trade value, cap compliance for the other teams would be the big question though

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 17 at 10:56 a.m.

Thread: Does this idea work for both sides

This is probably close to fair value, I think Philly would ask for XB instead of Broberg.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16 at 6:26 p.m.

Thread: Low key good idea for a center

Is Wennberg expiring?

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16 at 1:08 p.m.

Thread: Trade provorov

There's 0 incentive for Philly to do this, if that's how bad the return would be for him they're better off literally just holding him until he walks/shipping him off as a TDL rental when his contract is expiring

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 15 at 8:47 p.m.

Thread: Frost should play wing

I think he will end up on wing. I think Couturier and Cates are the middle-6 Centers of the future, and Frost ain't it at 1C

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 13 at 10:24 a.m.

Thread: For some idiot named Dan the Flyers Fan

When you add a player on a trade in CapFriendly, you can hit the '+' below the player to add retained salary instead of typing that you would retain

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 11 at 11:43 p.m.

Thread: Trade Deadline and Offseason- Build Young Core

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>Cannot see Philly eating 3 million a season on Hayes</div></div>

They almost certainly will. Nobody is going to take him at full salary, a buyout is a way worse monetary option, and based on how his year has gone here he 100% won't be on the roster next season. Will be curious to see which team trades for him, but I'd actually say Hayes traded with 2.5-3.5 AAV in retention is most likely case scenario

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 11 at 6:44 p.m.

Thread: Colorado Avalanche

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>turtlemountain</b></div><div>If the options are buyout or that, then the return will probably be lower than fans hope.</div></div>

That's fine. Still preferential to have him 3 years on the book at 50% than 6 years at varying hits

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 11 at 6:12 p.m.

Thread: Colorado Avalanche

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>avs still need compher,
Hayes is an interesting target but I dont think teams are lining up to send a 2023 1st for him. Rather wait till hes eventually bought out by the Flyers, it seems destined for that</div></div>

It probably isn't headed to a buyout. Trading him at 50% is a better situation for Philly and for whatever team would want to add Hayes to their lineup

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 11 at 3:36 p.m.

Thread: By TDL

TK is on pace for over 50 goals and 100 points over an 82 game season, asking price would have to start with 2023 1st +

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 11 at 2:30 p.m.

Thread: Rebuilding

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>evanjoos34</b></div><div>i just see the exact same team with new peeps her and there</div></div>

Pretty much the goal. This team isn't good but they have too much young talent to do a true tank, just stay the course, accrue a few draft picks and run it back hoping for another top-10 pick

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