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Forum: Fauteuil - DGJan. 16 at 10:10 p.m.

Thread: Accelerated Restructure

Losing Bonk would be a huge blow, but I think Philly considers this

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16 at 9:15 p.m.

Thread: What would the cost be

You're probably at least adding a 1st and Bonk for Buffalo to even begin thinking about accepting, and even then I think they'd be reluctant

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16 at 9:12 p.m.

Thread: Flyers Fans What Is The Cost Of These Players

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Word is they’re trying to sign Seeler. Wonder if Atkinson gets moved with retention</div></div>

Yup, at this point Seeler is a 2nd+, otherwise I think he extends in Philly.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16 at 9:09 p.m.

Thread: Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>Even retained the Avs can’t take that much salary without someone like RyJo going back (he’s the only one with enough cap to make it work anybody else would drastically change the trade). I like the trade framework though.</div></div>

I could see Philly taking RyJo back to make this work, but it'd have to be a buyout since obviously he won't work with Tortorella. Having said that, I think Philly would want another asset to offset taking his contract (nothing huge necessarily, but something)

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16 at 5:46 p.m.

Thread: Idea

Interesting... would be a huge risk for Philly but could be worth it

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16 at 5:45 p.m.

Thread: Idea

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>evelutions2</b></div><div>In the worst case scenario, KK is still a high end 3C low end 2C. Laughton is nothing more than a 4C, maybe a low end 3C. Canes pass.</div></div>

They literally have almost <em>identical</em> stat lines over the last 2 years... (seriously, both players had 18G 25A last season and are at 18/19 points respectively this year)

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16 at 12:33 p.m.

Thread: Ideal Offseason and TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WFW</b></div><div>I think the Leafs would decline. Don't see them moving Niemela for anyone that isn't signed beyond this season. Principle makes sense though Walker just isn't the guy.</div></div>

Fair enough, I honestly thought adding Niemela might be overkill but I also feel like Walker is worth a little more than a 1st to 2nd upgrade so I wasn't sure

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16 at 12:32 p.m.

Thread: Ideal Offseason and TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>Philly isn’t a spot for Zegras man

Let’s all use our heads here</div></div>

? Based on what..? Philly is thin at LW and C and has an abundance of assets they'd be willing to move for the right player

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16 at 11:49 a.m.

Thread: TDL Must Dos

I think Philly says no, but it's an interesting idea

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 15 at 11:28 p.m.

Thread: Now what

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oilfire</b></div><div>I thought Philly had a bit more cap space, so they can't really afford the Dube dump.

Just from the perspective of getting out of Ristos contract without retention is where I see value for Philly. But if you can't find space for Mang to pump his value next year, then yeah, it doesn't make much sense.

Makes sense for the fit on Calgary though based on what you said, Weegar can do the offense whilst Risto just has to be big and competent.</div></div>

At this point Walker is the fairly obvious odd man out in Philly. We're in the same boat with York and Drysdale that you guys are with Weegar seemingly ,so we can afford Ristolainen for the time being unless we're somehow getting futures back

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 15 at 11:02 p.m.

Thread: Now what

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oilfire</b></div><div>I thought I'd heard Risto was ok this year. Still a gamble considering his injury history and length of term. But I'd rather have more D than the current mix of middle six wingers and with the addition of that Duck whose name escapes me ATM, I figured Philly would at least consider that.</div></div>

Yeah Tortorella completely transformed him. His offensive upside is low but he's been a rock defensively and uses his size more effectively than in the past. He's slightly overpaid but he's a perfectly effective 4/5 who can play a shutdown role.

This trade doesn't work for Philly though, they already have a crazy abundance of winger talent and have concerns about how small their roster is overall.

And the guy they just got is Jamie Drysdale

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 15 at 10:44 p.m.

Thread: Ottawa Senators Opening Day Roster 2024-2025

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Celtic</b></div><div>Take away bonk from the trade, would you do it?</div></div>

Assuming this is an offseason deal, it'd be a maybe. A lot of it would probably depend on how Norris performs in the back half of this season, would also probably take out the PHI 2nd and Boucher from the equation

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 15 at 10:33 p.m.

Thread: Ottawa Senators Opening Day Roster 2024-2025

Respectfully, that's a no from Philly and it's not even close.

Forsberg is more or less a Cap dump, Boucher is a huge project at this point and even though I like Norris his performance this year and injury last year leave too many question marks on his long term value with that contract.

On the other hand, Bonk is having a fantastic D+1 year and looks like a borderline top pair prospect, Hart is one of the better RFA controlled Goaltenders in the league, and that 2nd rounder has more net value than either of Forsberg or Boucher at this point.

I'll put it this way: if Philly is offering Hart + Bonk in a trade package for Ottawa, the guy they're probably asking about is Tkachuk (even though I don't think Ottawa does that/that'd be enough)

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 15 at 9:10 p.m.

Thread: Now what

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dave26</b></div><div>So all 3 players have been playing bad. Why Calgary would sell low on both guys for another guy playing his worst hockey makes less than no sense. Best case scenario is keep them both around and hope they play better next season and then trade as rentals. Also Risto is signed for 3 years after rhis. So if he doesn’t figure it out he’d be a cap anchor and buy out candidate. So the risk is only for the Flames. Flyers get 2 guys on off years that they could get playing well and flip for assets and then they get rid of a very bad contract. Flames get royally screwed</div></div>

Ristolainen has been playing the best hockey of his career... did you just pull up an NHL stat page and draw a random conclusion?

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 15 at 12:07 p.m.

Thread: Scenario at the 2024 Draft

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caufield</b></div><div>Lev is going top 2, MTL needs Reinbacher way more than Zegras. Even if we could get Lev, I honestly rather have Rein+Eiserman than Lev+Zegras</div></div>

Honestly, if I'm Montreal I'd <em>way</em> rather have Zegras + Levshunov than Reinbacher + Eiserman. Levshunov is a better prospect than Reinbacher at the same age IMO and Zegras is a better sytlistic and timeline fit than Eiserman (even though I think Eiserman has a real chance of being the better player long term)

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 15 at 12:02 p.m.

Thread: Accelerating the rebuild TDL

You'd probably have to blow Carolina out of the water for Nikishin. They have the leverage in bringing him over and with Pesce/Burns/Orlov/Skeji all having varying long term futures with the team he's a guy who's going to be key for them.

You could probably get Morrow in this deal though, Carolina is in a tough bind with him (although their fans on this site are BRUTAL and will probably tell you that's not true)

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 15 at 11:56 a.m.

Thread: 2 year cup window

"Picks to even out" in the Philly trade would be like 2 1sts, and even then I'm not sure Philly does that

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 15 at 11:54 a.m.

Thread: 3 Way Trade for Zegras

The package you put together is just a hair more than the price to dump Campbell alone. You'd need to add another 2 1sts + young roster player if you want Zegras coming back

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 13 at 5:41 p.m.

Thread: Arizona Buyers

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GrittyGucci</b></div><div>That's a whole lotta nothing for TK. 1st or high prospect (I am not referring to Cooley relax) or don't come knockin on Danny B's doorstep.</div></div>

You're probably looking at Geekie + ARI 2024 1st as what I'd be asking for if I'm the Flyers

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 13 at 5:40 p.m.

Thread: What is sean walker worth

Seeler = ~3rd, maybe a 2nd depending on how the rest of the market looks and if a cap strapped team really needs a solid player for a playoff run

Walker = 2nd+. He's like one of maybe 3 or 4 RHD rentals available on the market and has put up genuinely solid results this year on a cheap cap hit

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 13 at 5:37 p.m.

Thread: Arizona Buyers

Respectfully, this is very far off the mark for what it would take for TK, you'd probably need to triple the actual value of this package for Philly to move on from him

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 12 at 10:01 p.m.

Thread: Big Philly Trade

Weirdly enough, Sanheim is probably untouchable at this point. He's really stepped up for us and is probably gonna be the guy we glue to Drysdale

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 12 at 9:59 p.m.

Thread: trading ahl goalies

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>betterthanholland</b></div><div>why would the oilers even pick up the phone? this deal makes no sense, much easier just buying campbell out</div></div>

2 years of buyout penalty vs 6

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 12 at 10:15 a.m.

Thread: Idear

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Wasn't Laughton worth a ton just a couple months ago?</div></div>

Yeah and technically he still would be. He is absolutely adored in Philly.

Having said that, Philly says yes to this. There's a greater need for Philly to gather futures now than there was a few months ago

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 11 at 10:32 p.m.

Thread: All these players are on the trade block Im done

Honestly, I 100% respect CapFriendly therapy for dealing with your team being in crisis mode (me with the Flyers since Monday lol)

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