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Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 20, 2022 at 8:01 p.m.
Thread: Barkov to Rangers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>Panarin played with CHI for 2 seasons. Both years was under a point per game. His best seasons have been since he left with CLB and NYR.. 2 teams that weren’t highly competitive for most of that time. Barkov is for sure a top 15 player, top 5 C, but Bread is a top 5 player. Let’s play it your way.. since 17/18’ season to current(post CHI and Kane)

Barkov 348GP 386pts +55
Panarin 350GP 428pts +107

And while you might say Huberdeau hadn’t broke out because you don’t seem to know your stuff..

Huberdeau 371GP 418pts +35

Over that span of time the ranks are

McDavid
Draisaitl
Mackinnon
Kane
Panarin
Marchand
Huberdeau
Gaudreau
Marner
Stamkos
Matthews
Pastrnak
Crosby
Kucherov
Barkov</div></div>

I don't know my stuff... yeah sure kiddo. Not like Huberdeau has never hit the 100 point mark before and had only hit the 80 point mark once. Maybe you need to do your own research.

So your defense is that Panarin played on awful teams he outscored a guy that played on worse teams? And the difference in offensive ability doesn't atone for the defensive chasm between them. Barkov still plays a more valuable position. He's still WAY better defensively. Again, you turn to plus minus like it's a representation of good defense. It's a representation of goal differential. All that shows is that Florida still needs a good goalie. You really are digging your hole deeper here. Barkov is the best defensive forward in the game right now. Hands down, no contest. He's coming off a year where he was on a very similar scoring pace to Panarin. Yet, you continue to say Panarin is better. I don't get this. Panarin is a star. Barkov is a franchise-changing talent.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 20, 2022 at 4:50 p.m.
Thread: Barkov to Rangers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>Trouba $6M is a steal. Barkov being better than Zibby is accurate. Barkov being better than Panarin isn’t.

Barkov 600GP 557P +79
Panarin 512GP 579P +133

Safe to say in the 88GP short bread will tally another 100P easy. Don’t get me wrong, Barkov is still incredible, those numbers aren’t bad by any means</div></div>

Barkov is better than Panarin. Barkov is younger, makes less, plays a more valuable position, and is MILES better defensively. Plus, Panarin played opposite Kane for most of his career to this point. Barkov only really had a truly elite linemate last year when Huberdeau broke out.

Trouba at 6 is still high. He's worth about 5-5.5. And that doesn't expire for another 3 years. Barkov is a top 10 player in the NHL regardless of position. You're going to have to pay that price.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 10, 2022 at 1:25 p.m.
Thread: HmmYes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CringleMcDingleberry</b></div><div>True, but I was considering how training camp/preseason looked like. I think it might be worth putting that skill level with Zadina in a 3rd line with either Suter or Rasmusses (Rasmussen imo). I guess Vrana and Elmo are largely interchangeable, but I think playstyle and speed will be relevant to what players are best suited to play with each other. Vrana/Rasmussen/Zadina just feels right and I think Elmo will work well with Perron/Copp. Just not a huge fan of burying Big E in a 4th line. But either way, however you swing it, I'm excited to see what the guys can do.</div></div>

Copp has played a lot of wing in the NHL and now Detroit wants him to be their 2C. So him succeeding is more important than giving Söderblom a lot of minutes and Perron and Vrana give Copp the best chance to succeed.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 29, 2022 at 10:47 p.m.
Thread: trade for Jason robertson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BoudreauFan</b></div><div>If you take the trade, you would be one piece away from contending. If you consider Kasper asa future 1C, then you are set to win cup in a few years</div></div>

Wrong.. Our D is still a mess &amp; last i checked Robertson doesn't play defense he's a winger .. Is he 50 goal winger prob not. 40 sure .. .. He wouldn't fix the Wings &amp; We'd give up way too much from our depth to be worse off... One player (unless a CENTER &amp; A MCDAVID/draisatl/ young MALKIN TYPE) ISNT worth it...

Plus
Vrana stays healthy he scores 35-40 he's better than ok (look at the analytics pts per 60 &amp; much more)
Zadina is gonna break out to 15-20 goal year with confidence back
Berrgren no-one knows but has nice playmaking skills
Draft picks could be too valuable too

So yea Wings REJECT IT EASY.. If Robertson was a CENTER or they offered heiskanen then we're talking a foundation piece.. Wingers no matter how skilled are the easiest to replace or find sorry..
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 9, 2022 at 8:06 a.m.
Thread: TDL - Larkin Watson Pysyk
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dekes</b></div><div>you are crazy lol Larkin is a top 20 center in the league as if you get him for that price

would you have traded landeskog for that trade when he was on his UFA season?
No that's what i thought

Larkin is the captain of detroit and is a michigan boy and with the way detroit is trending he most likely is gonna resign. Detroit also lacks a potential 1C replacement outside of Kasper down the line so 100% detroit will be asking for Newhook in return.

maybe if Detroit and Larkin come to some decision that they will basically just "Rent" Larkin to colorado for the rest of regular season and PO's and then resign in detroit after they will consider this trade but since that is highly unlikely Detroit will definitely be turning down this Offer.

Newhook+23 1st is literally the minimum for Larkin rental or not, he would literally be the difference maker in which colorado goes back to back guaranteed or not</div></div>

It doesn't matter if he's a top 20 center, he's still an UFA.

I agree it's likely that he stays in Detroit, but big players have left their teams in UFA before for a variety of reasons.

Of course I wouldn't have traded Landeskog because the Avs were contenders. If the Avs were outside the playoffs and Landeskog didn't want to stay though then I would have considered it, but not otherwise.

As for Newhook + 1st, no other team is offering anything like that for a rental. Not happening.