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Davisoc

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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 21, 2019 at 11:32 a.m.
Thread: Khadri Goes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeastModeUnknown</b></div><div>Well, Nylander hasn't produced as much offense as good as Pesce's defense done. Carolina doesn't need anyone from Toronto, you guys need pesce more than carolina needs anyone from Toronto. They need Pesce more than anyone from your team. This is why it would cost more. Also the bonuses Carolina would have to pay, and the problems with what his contract will be compared to what Pesce's better contract and a steal of a contract.</div></div>

Well..no one is trading for Nylander this year...nor is he available...so any bonsues get taken care of after July 1st by the leafs.

2nd...it's kind of ignorant to take a small sample size on Nylander to make a blanket statement on his offence.

3rd....leafs seem to be doing just fine as a top 5/6 team in the league without any help from Carolina or their defence...how is that spectacular D helping Carolina's efforts? Seems to me the hurricanes have more to gain from finding scoring than the leafs have to gain from adding D...so that will not tilt the scales in any trade offer.

4th...Pesce is one dimensional. He's an incredible, young, shut-down d-man. The leafs could certainly use that...but he's not what I would view as a 'complete package' type player (nor is Nylander for that matter)...but he's not the type of player the leafs should consider trading off a core piece for

Leafs would be better off not making any trade than doing Nylander + for Pesce (and it appears they currently are better off)
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 19, 2019 at 12:33 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 18, 2019 at 2:43 p.m.
Thread: TDL 18 - One trade solves it all
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Davisoc</b></div><div>The idea of this trade is a playoff push and nothing else. I remember who Nylander is better than most. But no Nylander in the history of his playing has been snake bit this bad. At some point you need to focus on next year and the year after that. Will Nylander help the leafs win a cup? I dont know. I remember him being almost not noticeable the last two series against Boston. What would not go unnoticed would be a shutdown guy to play with Gardiner and a tough guy that can give Toronto space and an edge in a series against Boston. It is also REALLY hard to ignore that Sparks and Hutchinson just arent good enough.</div></div>

I completely disagree, Nylander actually looked not too bad in the playoffs last year. He did finish with a goal and 3 assists, he also was much better once he was moved away from Matthews. Him being snake bitten has far more to do with him missing training camp and a third of the season and then trying to keep up to guy sin mid season form. Pesce would play on the top pair with Rielly and he would be a huge upgrade over Hainsey but he's not a saviour and he doesn't win you a cup. He just makes it easier for Rielly to do what he does and you see less "God dammit Hainsey, just retire!" moments.

Ferland is less valuable than Hyman but has better hands. He doesn't win you a cup either. All this is just people buying into old school hockey thinking, media speculation and the mob mentality. Everyone is saying the leafs need tough guys to deal with Boston. That is wrong, they need to rise above the physical play. They have more talent than Boston and they need to be determined enough to take the hit, out skate the next hit and tire out Boston. That is step 1, play a full 60 minutes regularly with 100% effort. Do that and then you'll know exactly how good the team is. Overpaying to fix issues that we don't really know if its a huge problem or not is poor asset management.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 20, 2018 at 4:34 p.m.
Thread: STL Deal
<a href="/users/MapleLeafs97" target="_blank">@MapleLeafs97</a> <a href="/users/Davisoc" target="_blank">@Davisoc</a>

I think you both have a chance of being right with your opposing comments above. It’s simply differing opinions based on how you each value Pietrangelo and the Leafs’ D prospects.

Personally, I’m skeptical on Liljegren. Mono is not the sole reason he dropped that far in the draft. Other teams must have seen something in his game that gave them cause for concern. Is it possible that Liljegren or Sandin might one day play at the level of Pietrangelo? Sure. I just don’t think it’s probable which is why I would pull the trigger on a deal like this.

That being said, I think it’s a much safer play for Dubas to make low risk additions (pending UFAs) at the deadline and give his D prospects time to develop and hopefully contribute at some point while on entry level contracts.

This website wouldn’t be any fun tho if we all just rolled with the ‘safe’ approach
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 20, 2018 at 2:29 p.m.
Thread: STL Deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Davisoc</b></div><div>The value is right here, but I personally dont think this is worth it. Banking on two expiring contracts for a one year push doesn't plan for the future. Plus, never trade a young defenseman that shows the promise that Lili does. He has been looking amazing. Sandin and Lili look like they are going to grown together into a power house. There value goes way above and beyond that of Petro in the long term. Parayko, I would be forced to reconsider, but Petro is a big no from me.</div></div>

This seems to be the feedback from most Leafs fans - and it makes a lot of sense. I don't think Dubas would be very interested in pushing in all of his chips, but this would be about the value I'd want to see if we move Pietrangelo.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 8, 2018 at 12:04 p.m.
Thread: Leafs Side of Larsson Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Davisoc</b></div><div>Dude, come on. You know the retained salary is a little much, and for Leaf fans to not want to take on 1mill of retained salary when we already have 1,2. I think thats pretty fair. We really need to stop blowing the hate out of the water here. I know you and I have had our debates in the past and we have disagreed but very rarely do I call you out. I have too this time. Better the devil you know than the one you dont. I keep Zaitsev if the ask is to retain salary.

Plus people NEED to remember that Brown had more points than McDavid when they played together it Junior. If they can touch any of that magic, Oilers are golden.</div></div>

Yeah I don’t like the retained salary. Didn’t see that part at first. I think it’s fair if there’s no salary retained