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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 17, 2023 at 8:33 a.m.
Thread: Trading Hellebuyck
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AntiAnalytics</b></div><div>Buffalo is NOT ‘“trying to trade Olofsson and Jokiharju” though

And a trade for Hellebuyck is very unlikely,
since we don’t wanna give him the long extension he wants

We aren’t gonna trade those assets for a “rental” goalie
Just doesn’t make sense for us</div></div>

Buffalo may not be TRYING to trade these players, but they should take a deal like this. Even if Helly is a rental.

We have ten D who played in the NHL last year, and Jokiharju is six or seven on that list. He may have upside, but there's a crowd there already.

Olofsson is worth 25G, but we have four rookie forwards who ought to get some NHL games this year (Savoie, Kulich, Rousek and Rosen). The best slot to offer them is currently occupied by VO.

UPL holds promise but is inconsistent. Hellebuyck would give us fifty reliable games. Lets Levi get his feet under him during his first year.

The draft choices are expendable. I think this value is reasonable, but don't think Jets would bite.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 3:16 p.m.
Thread: offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sabres89</b></div><div>Exactly! Paying more than a rental price puts pressure on the gm to get him extended. I want no part of that extension- I'm assuming it's a 7/70 type monster.</div></div>

I'm thinking more like 5x8.5. It's clear that big long-term contracts ( like for Quick, Price, Bob -- despite his current playoff hot streak) become anchors toward the end. The real killer would be having an NMC.

Levi *might* be a great goalie, but I'm not ready to bet the franchise on him. 13OA and UPL is an affordable price for an elite G that (with a couple of smaller deals) moves them into contender status immediately. And we need to get that window open, because we want as many cracks at it as we can get.

If Levi pans out as elite, then we have a really good problem on our hands. If it takes an asset to move Hellebuyck's contract for the last two years, it gives us four potential runs at it starting NOW. We can deal with the cap issues as they arise to extend the window, as has been demonstrated in Chicago, Pittsburgh, Boston, Tampa, Vegas, etc.

It's still early, so we shouldn't be paying any desperation premium. But this looks like an opportunity to me.