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Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsMar. 8 at 10:15 a.m.
Thread: Another 1 for 1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jeff902</b></div><div>I love both Stuble and Xhekaj. Both very physical, but with a much different approach to the game. I think one of them is eventually gone. Both will eventually strive wherever they go - and there is potential to say "can't believe we let him go" - the return needs to be of enough value that we say "well we got #insert player name# so we can't complain"

Don't want another Gomez or Drouin breathing on the team while McDonough/Sergachev show what we missed.</div></div>

Maybe we could move Hutson in a deal like this. Carolina doesn’t have that high end offensive D and they’re craving it. A package around him might work. It would be tough to lose him, but we will 100% have the ability to draft his replacement this draft in Parehk or Buium, and they are probably better versions of him..

I want to say this about Necas though: What would he be on the Habs with Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovsky, Dach, Newhook and top power play time vs his most common linemates in Carolina which are Bunting, Drury, Kotkaniemi and Noesen, and 2nd power play unit??

He’s already produced a 70 point season and is on pace for 65 this year under those terrible circumstances, with only 5 power play assists.. I’d say he’s minimum a ppg player here. Maybe 90 points. He’s super talented. He’s just in an unfortunate situation in Carolina where they have tons of talent at the top of their lineup, him and Jarvis are forced to play middle 6 secondary scoring roles.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsMar. 8 at 9:55 a.m.
Thread: Another 1 for 1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jeff902</b></div><div>I do not disagree that Defense, especially on the Left Side, is a position of strength within the organization. I also know when Hughes eventually does make a trade for a Top 6 fwd, it will be a considerable pay.
In my opinion, on LD Guhle is the future, and he is the future leader of the D-corps as a whole. He is the absolute last D-man I would put on the trade board (including Reinbacher and Hutson).
I understand my bias - and simply expressing my opinion. I think we are generally on the same page - maybe differ in who we value more.</div></div>

I don’t blame you, I love Guhle as well, I just think he’s the only guy who gets you the type of forward we’re looking for. Maybe Xhekaj does as well? But would you want to move him? Struble could get you a nice return if packaged, but these types of deals are typically 1 for 1 or quality for quality vs quality for quantity..
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsFeb. 25 at 1:31 a.m.
Thread: Spitballing
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>Matheson isn’t good defensively. He is really bad
https://twitter.com/JFreshHockey/status/1746200282017517799

If it’s so easy to be good defensively as a winger, why aren’t there more good defensively winger?

Montreal is giving enough in the trade, but St-Louis isn’t receiving enough</div></div>

I’ll start this by saying, even if you think he is bad defensively (the card you posted disproves that, 2 out of 3 seasons he was average defensively which is exactly what I said, making this year the outlier), but besides, when has that ever mattered? Offensive defenseman don’t have to be good defensively, Karlsson won two Norris trophies and got 10 mill lol. Just a terrible argument to begin with as it relates to his value. Hell guys who aren’t offensive defenseman and still aren’t very good defensively are even valuable.. Ristolainen was traded for a 14th overall pick and Seth Jones got paid 9 mill. Chiarot got paid 5 mill and Gudbranson got paid 4.5.. Do you actually believe GM give a **** about JFresh Cards? They don’t even know they exist lol.

But since you want to be a stat card pusher, I’m going to teach you something real quick, because you don’t understand context, and you don’t fully understand hockey, and I get it, there are a lot of you guys out there, so I don’t blame you, you’re young, you’ll learn. Matheson is an offensive defenseman, when you have an offensive defenseman on a bad team, that offensive defenseman is going to play a lot of minutes in his own zone. When said offensive defenseman is in his own zone you’re in a bad position. It would be the same for Hughes (and was) when he was on a bad team. Absolutely brutal defensive results, a liability. But now the team is good, when he’s on the ice, he’s in the offensive zone the majority of the time, so you don’t even have to think about his defensive game, because he’s almost never defending. That’s because he plays with great offensive players who control possession most of the time when they’re on the ice. Same for Karlsson, Fox, and so on.

When it comes to Matheson he is playing with 1 line that is young, decent, but not great offensively, and every other line is a black hole offensively and we are one of the lowest in the league in terms of possession, so he spends more time in the D zone than every offensive D on a good team. Now if you were to put Matheson on Tampa, or Colorado for example, his defensive results would be around average to good like there’s are. btw the fact that his offensive results are so great, on a terrible offensive team who doesn’t control possession at all, is even more incredible..

You also have to learn how to read the card before posting it. That’s a 3 year weighted average and he was average for two of them, which is exactly what I said.

As for defensive wingers, there are a ton. It’s called almost every bottom 6 forward in the league, they just don’t usually have the offense to go with it. It’s a great trait to have, it’s just not going to change his value as much as you believe.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsFeb. 24 at 4:47 p.m.
Thread: Spitballing
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>I can only think of 1 defensive winger better than Buchnevich and it’s Marner while I can think of at least 10 D better offensively and 150 better defensively</div></div>

There definitely aren’t 150 defenseman better than Matheson defensively, you couldn’t even make a 1 to 1 comparison because most don’t play the level of comp he does. He plays 26 minutes a game, he’s also not bad defensively, he’s around average and the analytics back that up. The giveaways are because he plays the most minutes in the league and is an incredibly high usage player. All the other D with as many or more turnovers are also great defenseman. Some are better than him. It’s just the nature of it.

You bring up Buch’s defending but it’s just not as valuable a trait as you’re making it out to be. He’s a winger, they’re not doing the work a centre is defensively 90% of the time. It’s easier to be great defensively for a winger than it is for a centre. It adds value, but not to the degree I think you’re suggesting.

He’s an awesome player, so is Matheson. Buch is more valuable, Montreal also gives up a 1st in the deal to help St. Louis shed Krug and they also get a very good prospect in Berggren who should probably be in a teams top 9 or top 6 right now.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsFeb. 24 at 4:30 p.m.
Thread: Spitballing 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WingsMJN2965</b></div><div>You're getting warmer! Still not quite there, though.

Embarrassing, on a website that is literally intended for keeping track of these things.</div></div>

Did I hit all of your arguments here, or did I miss some? If so give me one that I can’t easily shoot down.

“Yzerman wouldnt acquire Krug, he’s old and has 4 years left”
*signed 31 year old Chiarot to a almost 6 mill 4 year deal*

“Yzerman wouldn't acquire Krug because he’s an undersized D”
*sighed Ghost who is undersized*

“Yzerman wouldn’t acquire Krug because he’s left handed and they won’t play left D on the right”
*signed Ghost who is left handed and plays him on the right*

“Yzerman wouldn’t acquire Krug because they would be blocking Edvinsson’s path”
*Yzerman blocks the path of almost every prospect and let’s then sit in the ahl for multiple years including Berggren who just declined a contract*
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsFeb. 24 at 4:25 p.m.
Thread: Spitballing
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>Buchnevich isn’t elite? I recommend you go check some of his stats. There is not a lot of 85 pts defensive forwards in the league…</div></div>

Obviously I know his stats, I want Montreal to acquire him. He’s a stud, 70-80 point player. He’s not elite. If you call him elite you might as well call Matheson elite. He’s top 10 in league scoring by D, there are exactly only 10 of those in the league. There are a lot more guys who do what Buch does than 10 if that’s the criteria you’re using, but neither are elite, both are high end top liners.

But you’re right, I would say Buch is more valuable, but that’s why Montreal is also giving up a 1st on top of Matheson and St. Louis gets Berggren. It’s not Matheson for Buch straight up.

Plus there is a cost to moving Krug. I think St. Louis would like this deal personally. At the very least it isn’t horrible for St. Louis like you suggested earlier. It would at least make them think.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsFeb. 24 at 4:13 p.m.
Thread: Spitballing 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WingsMJN2965</b></div><div>Actually we don't. You're the one that came up with the nonsensical proposal lol.</div></div>

I’ll start from the beginning.

“Yzerman wouldnt acquire Krug, he’s old and has 4 years left”
*signed 31 year old Chiarot to a almost 6 mill 4 year deal*

“Yzerman wouldn't acquire Krug because he’s an undersized D”
*sighed Ghost who is undersized*

“Yzerman wouldn’t acquire Krug because he’s left handed and they won’t play left D on the right”
*signed Ghost who is left handed and plays him on the right*

“Yzerman wouldn’t acquire Krug because they would be blocking Edvinsson’s path”
*Yzerman blocks the path of almost every prospect and let’s then sit in the ahl for multiple years including Berggren who just declined a contract*

Guys… you have to come to terms with the fact that Yzerman doesn’t align with you on how you think this team should be built lol. How much more evidence do you need?