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Forum:
NHL Signings
Jan. 28 at 8:39 p.m.
Thread:
Philadelphia Flyers signed Ryan Poehling (2 Years / $1,900,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DongLord23</b></div><div>Former untouchable prospect</div></div>
One of the best ever, first game in the NHL.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 31, 2023 at 8:08 a.m.
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Making the playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DongLord23</b></div><div>Tage is also elite and a better goal scorer than petey. Tage also isn't awful in his own zone. Sound like someone that just looks at charts. He plays a decent amount on the PK. Pretty good stickwork. That line is just plays a high risk game because that's what they're coach to do. They'd rather have them score a ton and give some up. Just because someone is better defensively doesn't make someone on another level.
You realize both were 30 and FAs the next year right? Most people are taking Tuch & Krebs in their early 20s at 5.5M for another 4 years instead of Huberdeau + Weegar at 16.75M in their 30s for another 8 years. I swear people on here just don't understand the value of contracts & cap space.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DongLord23</b></div><div>It's focusing on the the biggest part of value. Why do you think a vezina winner went for free? A salary cap exists. These guys are also out of their prime. Value is about future not what they did the season before. Do you think columbus would trade Fantili for Stamkos?</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DongLord23</b></div><div>It's not a huge difference. This also just sounds like someone who just looks at charts and doesn't watch them play. Tage is also a better goal scorer. They are close.</div></div>
In four years you have only posted 1200 comments, but you speak, people should listen as you know of what you say.
Leaf fans actually watch hockey, it is refreshing to hear positive comments about Tage from a Toronto follower.
While I could see his raw talent when he became a Sabre, it took Granato to release it.
Big players often take longer to develop, he is still developing.
Thanks for your comments.
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NHL Signings
Aug. 22, 2023 at 12:16 p.m.
Thread:
Tampa Bay Lightning signed Brandon Hagel (8 Years / $6,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>worldwidesensei</b></div><div>Im not sorry
How long did Crosby, Malkin, Letang and MAF sign for?
Seems like a way to win to me. Take those shades off, penguin, and see that bargain deals are how you win the Cup.</div></div>
Crosby, Malkin, Letang in their prime are nothing like the palyer profile Cirelli, Cernak or Hagel is... Im saying this as not a fan of either team...
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 19, 2023 at 10:55 p.m.
Thread:
Signing Pesce and Trading Skinner
Why is Toronto trading for 31 year old Jeff Skinner with 4 years/$9 mil AAV left on his contract? Couldn't they pay a bit more to re-sign the younger Nylander?
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NHL Signings
Aug. 5, 2023 at 11:06 a.m.
Thread:
Philadelphia Flyers signed Samuel Ersson (2 Years / $1,450,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>Weird contract. Shouldn't be much more than NHL Minimum. He was a fringe AHL starter last year and wasn't impressive in his few NHL games this year.</div></div>
nah, He played pretty well, after the first game against Carolina he went 6-0. He was also playing a ton of hockey between NHL and AHL and his play started to slip. Is it maybe a tad much? possibly but it starts in a year and he's likely gonna get a lot more starts in the NHL this year. So it's too early to say that.
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NHL Signings
Aug. 5, 2023 at 10:54 a.m.
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Philadelphia Flyers signed Samuel Ersson (2 Years / $1,450,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>Weird contract. Shouldn't be much more than NHL Minimum. He was a fringe AHL starter last year and wasn't impressive in his few NHL games this year.</div></div>
Did you watch any of the games he started, just curious? His season stats are brought down by 3 bad games at the tail end of the season.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 15, 2023 at 2:25 p.m.
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Gibson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Aebexz</b></div><div>Terry rejects the contract offer.</div></div>
Wrong
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DongLord23</b></div><div>How much do you think he's getting lol? This is similar to Bratt's deal. Bratt has also played better than Terry.</div></div>
No it’s a very realistic offer
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 7, 2023 at 8:45 p.m.
Thread:
EK65
We almost posted the same exact trades and I swear I didn't even see yours before posting mine
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NHL Signings
Jul. 1, 2023 at 9:50 a.m.
Thread:
Ottawa Senators signed Erik Brännström (1 Year / $2,000,000 AAV)
Little high but not terrible. Decent bottom pairing player, a lot better than people think. Defensive game has really turned around in the last couple years for him.
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NHL Trades
Jun. 24, 2023 at 4:54 p.m.
Thread:
(ARI/LAK) - 2024 2nd (MTL) for Durzi
Lol King's Fans were way off on his value
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2023 at 5:47 p.m.
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Gibson Edmundson Lauzon
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ennis</b></div><div>You went this far back in your replies to prove a point n be petty to an internet stranger. THATS an L man</div></div>
Dude, I don’t know if you were the guy saying Durzi was worth more than Romanov, but if you were that guy, take the L. Sorry, not worth more, but at least a 1st
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NHL Trades
Mar. 29, 2023 at 1:13 p.m.
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(PIT/MTL) - Matheson for Petry, Poehling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DongLord23</b></div><div>The comments that said Petry would return a 1st round pick were nonsensical. I called them out. Now the same people that said he would return a 1st round pick are performing mental gymnastics to justify their bad takes.</div></div>
Don't argue it, every player on Habs who is remotely good can and will get back a first, its evitable, it doesn't matter that according to the Habs media Edmundson was suppose to get back Bourgault and a first and he didn't even get traded Kent "the perfect" Hughes can do no wrong
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Mock-Draft
Jan. 31, 2023 at 8:43 p.m.
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Post WJC Draft Rankings (with explanations)
<a href="/users/DongLord23" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@DongLord23</a> <a href="/users/Zinger" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Zinger</a> <a href="/users/csick" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@csick</a>
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NHL Signings
Oct. 12, 2022 at 1:45 p.m.
Thread:
Buffalo Sabres signed Mattias Samuelsson (7 Years / $4,285,714 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Brian2016</b></div><div>High Risk...Medium Reward.</div></div>
is 700k on your cap over 10 years a high risk to pay for someone whos ceiling is a Slavin type player? no. I don't get it.
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NHL Signings
Oct. 12, 2022 at 1:52 p.m.
Thread:
Buffalo Sabres signed Mattias Samuelsson (7 Years / $4,285,714 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div>Personally? If he doesn't take a step up, he's overpaid. And his defensive numbers away from the top pair were abysmal - go check out his sub-40% CF/SF and 8-27 GF-GA numbers when he was with Casey Fitzgerald last season if you think I'm just making things up. He put up better numbers with Dahlin, but to me that doesn't scream "top pair guy", it just says he's able to keep up with a superior player while not being able to make a lesser player better. That's fine! There are tons of players like that, and it doesn't mean he's not a top-4 player. I just don't think he's a slam dunk top pair guy that's going to make this deal look like a steal.
If you want a little more to back that up, I think one of his better comps is Jonas Siegenthaler - both defensive LHD, similarly sized players, and Siegenthaler is only 3 years older and signed his extension 10 weeks ago.
Sieganthaler put up better even strength possession numbers (51.2 vs 47.6 CF, 51.0 vs. 47.3 Fenwick) with similar PDOs (so can't say one was bailed out by better goaltending), and was better at preventing goals when he was on the ice shorthanded (7.2 GA/60 vs. 8.1 for Samuelsson), while having a little over 2 seasons worth of NHL games to judge his game on. He just signed for 5x$3.4M - so the Sabres gave more term and more AAV in this deal today.
Again, my point is that it's not that Samuelsson is going to be a bum, or not live up to the deal, or whatever. It's just that it doesn't make a ton of sense to hand out this deal right now when there is very little I could picture Samuelsson doing that would push his value *higher* than this. He's most likely a middle-pair guy going forward and this is a higher-end middle pair AAV.</div></div>
Raw numbers are not a good way of evaluating a player's defensive game on a bad team. ROR's numbers were bad in Buffalo, despite playing well defensively. You have to look at his isolated impact. He had great numbers.
<img class="for_img" src="https://i.imgur.com/LxzAAgA.png" alt="LxzAAgA.png">
The team is much better defensively when he's on the ice.
"If you want a little more to back that up, I think one of his better comps is Jonas Siegenthaler - both defensive LHD, similarly sized players, and Siegenthaler is only 3 years older and signed his extension 10 weeks ago. " Yea that's another good example. I think Samuelsson has a bit more offensive upside though.
I think the contract will either be fair value or a steal. A top 4 d man making 4.2M is right around what they should be getting.
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NHL Signings
Oct. 12, 2022 at 1:45 p.m.
Thread:
Buffalo Sabres signed Mattias Samuelsson (7 Years / $4,285,714 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>So your comparisons are a guy on LTIR for half his deal and another who was traded away one year into his deal. So how is it a smart money decision again?!</div></div>
Yes, because a player having serious issues with chronic arthritis is predictable in the future lmao. Klefbom's contract was great when he was playing.
Marino's contract is fair value. Getting 4.4M for a top 4 defensive d man is fair.
The cap is also going to skyrocket in the next few years. A 4.2M contract will look like a 3.5M contract the 3rd year of his deal. Paying 3.5M for a top 4 dman is great value. A huge steal if he becomes elite defensively.
You continue to embarrass yourself.
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NHL Signings
Oct. 12, 2022 at 1:31 p.m.
Thread:
Buffalo Sabres signed Mattias Samuelsson (7 Years / $4,285,714 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Heh. Yeah, and how many of those 54 games was he playing top pair?</div></div>
20? The rest he was in the top 4. I just don't get how a guy's ceiling is a top 4 d man when he's already a top 4 d man. Doesn't make any sense.
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NHL Signings
Oct. 12, 2022 at 1:11 p.m.
Thread:
Buffalo Sabres signed Mattias Samuelsson (7 Years / $4,285,714 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div>Samuelsson being a $7M player in 2026-27 is probably the top 25% of outcomes if we're being generous - not saying that he's a bum, but that I could easily sit here and find 3 guys who flamed out after a good half-season for every defensive Dman you could bring up that wound up being a $7M player by the end of his RFA years.
And to be fair, if you're assuming he bridges at around 3x$2.5M, most of the savings you're talking about in 2026-27 are going to be wiped out by the fact that you're overpaying him by about $2M from 23-24 through 25-26.</div></div>
The cap is going up nearly 20M in that time. Contracts are going to jump like crazy. At that time his deal would be comparable to a 3.5M deal today, which would be pretty close to his bridge amount. Near the end of his deal it would be close to 2.5M for a top 4 defensive d man.
Guys like Cernak already got 5.2M and that's before the cap has even jumped. You will start to see defensive guys getting 6M-7M pretty soon.
He's playing top pair, has strong defensive results, and this contract would put him 71st highest paid d man. Do you think that's an overpay or fair for what he brings currently?
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NHL Signings
Oct. 12, 2022 at 1:02 p.m.
Thread:
Buffalo Sabres signed Mattias Samuelsson (7 Years / $4,285,714 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>Islanders were thinking they needed to overpay to keep him off free agency after, surprise surprise, a bridge contract of 4x1.6M.
Keep your comparables coming, it just shows how ridiculous Samuelson's contract is because he doesn't have statss and/or milleage...</div></div>
How are you missing the point this bad?
I'm not even comparing Pelech to Samuelsson. I'm showing how dumb it is to evaluate a defensive d man with points, which you were doing. You just commented on a player without knowing anything about them and continue to double down.
An actual comparison would be Oscar Klefbom 7 years 4.1M after 77 games & John Marino 6 years 4.4M after 52 games
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NHL Signings
Oct. 12, 2022 at 12:56 p.m.
Thread:
Buffalo Sabres signed Mattias Samuelsson (7 Years / $4,285,714 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div>Here's the big difference: Pelech had played in almost as many *playoff games* as Samuelsson has regular-season games when he signed his big extension. He had basically 4 seasons worth of games backing up the analytics that said he was a top-tier, shutdown defenseman.
Samuelsson has half a season showing that, with some pretty bad numbers on the PK(not great for a DFD). It's not saying he can't live up to it, just that it's a huge risk - and acting like everyone who's tugging at their collar over giving a guy like that $30M is a "casual" is being a bit defensive.
My own opinion is that this is a bit premature - he's a defensive defenseman. What could he have done this season that would've put this contract out of reach for the Sabres? Everything in his junior/professional career shows that he's probably a 20-25 point guy at his peak who can shut down another team's top line. Guys like that usually don't get paid much more than Pelech's deal, which is only about $1.5M more than what the Sabres gave Samuelsson. I don't think the Sabres would have cost themselves a more expensive contract extension by waiting to see if he could make the leap this season.</div></div>
I'm not comparing Pelech to Samuelsson. One was 27 when he got his contract and the other is 22. I'm showing how stupid it is to evaluate a defensive d man by points.
"and acting like everyone who's tugging at their collar over giving a guy like that $30M is a "casual" is being a bit defensive." No, but not knowing anything about the player and giving takes is. If you're looking at point totals for a defensive d man it's very clear the person is clueless when it comes to the player. Just like someone bringing up point totals for Pelech is certainly a casual.
If we gave him a 3 year bridge the cap would be about 95M-100M at the end of that deal. If Samuelsson is still playing on the top pair with good results that would likely be 7M+. This contract could have potentially saved the team 3M per year at that time.
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NHL Signings
Oct. 12, 2022 at 12:34 p.m.
Thread:
Buffalo Sabres signed Mattias Samuelsson (7 Years / $4,285,714 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>And Klingberg had 40pts, including 11 goals, in his 1st season to show for it!!!
Congrats on signing the same contract for a guy without stats.</div></div>
Yea using points to evaluate a defensive d man lmao. Samuelsson isn't a PP QB. At the very least look into the player before commenting.
Man that Pelech stinks making 5.75M with a career high of only 21 points! What were the Islanders thinking!
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NHL Signings
Oct. 12, 2022 at 12:23 p.m.
Thread:
Buffalo Sabres signed Mattias Samuelsson (7 Years / $4,285,714 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>First of all, can the folks doing these start adding a not sure/too close to call/don't know type option in these polls? Grazie.
To the topic, this is weird. Yeah, it could end up looking good, but not so good that this isn't a strange gamble. His ceiling is as maybe a defensive minded 4th D man. So yeah, this seems oddly extravagant for a so so skater (and that might be a little generous) with 54 NHL games under his belt.</div></div>
How is his ceiling a 4th d man when he's been playing top pair? His ceiling is Slavin. He's already a top 4 d man.
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NHL Signings
Oct. 12, 2022 at 11:24 a.m.
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Buffalo Sabres signed Mattias Samuelsson (7 Years / $4,285,714 AAV)
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NHL Signings
Oct. 12, 2022 at 11:10 a.m.
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Buffalo Sabres signed Mattias Samuelsson (7 Years / $4,285,714 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>He's not getting only 4M, it's a $30M commitment on a guy with 54 NHL games under his belt!
It's not gutsy, it's plain bad management.
Any first rounder defenceman without stats can now ask for +4M AAV after half a season based on this comparable!?!?</div></div>
Klingberg signed a 7 year extension for 4.25M AAV back in 2015 after only 65 career games.
This is getting Dahlin's top pair partner on a potential steal contract.
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NHL Signings
Oct. 12, 2022 at 11:02 a.m.
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Buffalo Sabres signed Mattias Samuelsson (7 Years / $4,285,714 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ColonelX</b></div><div>Long time I haven't seen a Chayka's special, we'll see how this one turns out.
If he hits his 2LD ceiling the contract isn't even much of a bargain (more like going rate than anything else) so I don't see the upside considering they'll have other dman to spend money on soon.</div></div>
His 2LD ceiling when he's already been playing top pair LD? It's funny how people in here are so clueless about a player. It's fine to not know about a player, but at least do some research before commenting about it.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChrisNapoleon</b></div><div>Somehow worse than the Andrew Ladd contract...</div></div>
Yea a 22 year old 6'4 defenceman with great defensive metrics is similar to a 31 year old power forward FA.
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