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Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJan. 10 at 5:08 a.m.
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Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsDec. 25, 2023 at 3:15 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DarthRightus</b></div><div>

There will be many teams thinking Tocchet's style of coaching and his requirements are hurting Kuzy. (not saying I agree or don't)

Those teams would love to pick up a weapon on the discount.

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Maybe Rick tocchet coaching style could potentially hurt kuzmenko stats but it's helping all the team to perform better. Vancouver have made a really great turn over from last season and have even being considered as favorite for an long playoff run.

I don't think the problem come from the coach but more from the player. Yes team would want a good weapon when on discount but they won't go in mass when the say weapon have ethic or work attitude problem. The problem with Kuzmenko is that he have a small sample size data and got right aways an big cash contract and now he's not performing to the value. He's not playing or producing as he should have continued from last season which hurt is trade value. Also he don't seen to work well with the coach and don't do thing to work for it to happen.

The market is not moving alot because team who want additional piece for playoff run are almost all cap full and team who's seller know that and use this weapon (salary) as a big stick to try get more asset from the trade. So could argued that they are glutton but that the game.

Big player who produce once but them sign big money and stop producing have been current money in the league, there a tons of big dude who didn't perform after and it's hurt there value at the end.


I think patience should be use for the moment until deadline. If kuzmenko didn't straight is game from the pit he's is in, trading him would be the best choice in the end. I also think that as money is an issue right now, Vancouver would need to have a: third team party or b: take back an bad contract for one year. Waiting for the deadline also reduced the amount of salary left to pay which bring the guys cheaper.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsDec. 13, 2023 at 6:44 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hitagi_Senpai</b></div><div>Before the injury there was major talks, and even while he was injured teams still asked. But the ask was a 2nd+ Sorry but Mony isn't a second+

Ofc you wont put value in a proper opinion, because it doesn't cater to your HABS ASSETS BEST MONAHAN WORTH FIRST
ALLEN IS EASY 3RD
Savard PRIME ASSET 2 seconds EASY

Take your homer blinders off.

I am a homer, but even I have my limits lmfao</div></div>


17 pts in 25 game for 0.68% with 55.1% faceoff win ratio
16 pts in 28 game for 0.57 % with 57.1% faceoff win ratio

This is Monahan stats for both season play with Montreal.
As term of faceoff capacity Monahan is #14 on the list ( https://hockeyeloratings.com/players/faceoffratings ) funny enough people say Dvorak is an bad player yet he's #8 on this same list for best faceoff stats for this season. You could even argue that Montreal have 3 of there center in the top 15 best faceoff in the defensive zone. ( #7 Monahan, #10 Suzuki and #12 Dvorak. )

You have say that is 5vs5 stats is not good and I would agree with you on this but at same time how can you expect alot of points coming on 5vs5 time when he play with Pearson, Gallagher or Anderson which all of them look for offense as they have lost them somewhere. Of course Monahan produce more on Power play as he play with better player on this minutes. You could argue them point of Monahan playing second center with Montreal because they don't have some else yet he still prove that he's able to do the job at this spot. It's more real when you watch what Suzuki was able to do last season when Monahan was the second center and after when mony got injured what happen.

If it was not for Dach injured in the second game of the year, Monahan would have play with Suzuki and Caufield which would have show more points for all involved. But as Dach got injured and Dvorak was still recovering he was force to stay as second center with less then desirable winger.


Add in this the fact that he's pay 2m which is not alot ad could interest alot of competitive team to add him for playoff. At deadline there around 60% of the season that have gone which mean -60% of the 2m Monahan is pay which leave him with an cap around 800k and that is a real value.


So the question for you what is the value of an center able to:

Produce between 0.58% to 0.68%, have an average faceoff of 57% (top 15 league wise) that can play PK , PP and on 5vs5 on the second or third line which is pay 800k. And bring the intangible that he bring as vets.


Also add the fact that on deadline there may be more then one team who want him which mean action house and team try to overpay to get what they wanted.


But this is only on the condition that he stay healthy, otherwise I would say that he's value nothing because of injury history. I would also warry to even offer him another contract except of this on one or two year basis.