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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 3, 2021 at 3:46 p.m.
Thread:
Canada 2022
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Oodz</b></div><div>Rightttttt because Weber hamilton makar chabot ekblad hall mcdavid barzal all bring winning resumes right ? And they’re the most physical players that we’ve seen right? And oh yes the classic, they must be great leaders because us fans can measure that! And wow since when are players measured over leadership and physicality over the numbers they produce. Your whole argument literally makes no sense.... just stop</div></div>
Every player you just named brings way more to the table than Rielly or Marner.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 3, 2021 at 3:01 p.m.
Thread:
Canada 2022
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Oodz</b></div><div>I would include the guy who’s third in the league scoring rn and had 94 points two years ago along with the dman who had 73 points 2 years ago. Both are elite players who are better than a lot of the players u included. Any hockey fan with a brain would agree lmao</div></div>
Yes because the 2022 Olympic team players will be determined based upon how many points a couple guys scored 1-3 years ago.
I don`t think this team is going to have trouble scoring...What can Marner and Rielly bring to the table other than that?
Physicality? Nope.
Leadership? Nope.
Winning resume? Nope.
Defensive prowess? Compared to others? Nope.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 3, 2021 at 2:35 p.m.
Thread:
Canada 2022
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Oodz</b></div><div>Spoken with common sense, unlike your post lol</div></div>
If Marner and Rielly were on any other team in the league you would not include them.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 3, 2021 at 2:35 p.m.
Thread:
Canada 2022
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bringer_Of_Snow</b></div><div>Can 100% guarantee that Lafreniere will not be on the team. A lot more proven guys, especially since its only a year away. He hasn't shown really anything at this point to even think he might be in the running.
Probably see Huberdeau/Scheifele over Hall/Laf/Seguin
Team Canada has historically loved running 3 lefties and 3 righties on the back end, which is tough because they have about 10 quality righties.
I think Chabot, Theodore, then one of Morissey/Reilly
Right side: Weber, Pietrangelo, Doughty, then 2 of Parayko/Hamilton/Makar as the extras.
Price starting and Hart as the backup is pretty much a lock at this point.</div></div>
Yeah, Laff maybe not. We`ll see. I think he is going to show quite a bit more by this time next year.
But sure, replace Schiefiele with Lafrieniere.
Yes they have historically liked to do that but I think that was mostly a Babcock thing. I don`t think Babcock will be the coach this time around.
I think at the minimum they go 4 RD and 2 LD. I would take Makar LD over Rielly LD any day. This decision on D will be the toughest for Artmstrong.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 3, 2021 at 2:32 p.m.
Thread:
Canada 2022
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Oodz</b></div><div>In no works does laff make it over marner lol and Reilly >>> doughty ekblad weber</div></div>
Spoken like a true leafs fan
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 29, 2020 at 3:37 p.m.
Thread:
Rutherford has to have a trade up his sleeve right
He isnt done. There will be a move coming before training camp is over.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 29, 2020 at 3:33 p.m.
Thread:
Trade Coming Soon
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GrinReaper</b></div><div>Sorry try again that return doesn’t even get holland remotely interested the pens have nothing of interest, a RNH trade would need to revolve around a true #1 goaltender in his prime plus a young top six winger middle 6 centre or right shot D that are NHL ready.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>I think the bigger question is why are the penguins doing this. They give up 2 good young players and a 2nd for a freaking rental. No thanks. Pass.</div></div>
I think there could be a deal made but the Pens can`t give you the goalie. MP and McCann are on the table for sure imo.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 29, 2020 at 12:16 a.m.
Thread:
THORNTON AND MATTHEWS MAGIC
I actually like the idea of Thornton and AM but I don`t know if Thornton can skate top line minutes anymore. He may be suited better as PP specialist and 9-10 mins a night.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 29, 2020 at 12:13 a.m.
Thread:
Trade Coming Soon
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Why is Edmonton doing this?</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HadesOfSoCal</b></div><div>That doesn’t get RNH</div></div>
You might be right...if thats the case, what needs to be added?
Remember it is One year of RNH on a UFA contract. McCann could be a good fit on McDavids wing I think too.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 22, 2020 at 4:33 p.m.
Thread:
If they cant make a trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>Considering Rust would put up a 40-50 point pace playing third line prior to this season and he finally broke out with a PPG season in an elevated role makes me think he’s definitely a top 6 forward. Granland can play 3rd line if pens were to sign him.</div></div>
Alright sure. Fact is we don`t have Granlund right now so it doesn`t really matter. I would prefer signing a winger and playing Rust on third line. You disagree. We`ll see what Sullivan thinks because that is all that really matters in reality.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 22, 2020 at 4:31 p.m.
Thread:
If they cant make a trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>I don't argue those 1st two points. They are all in, and the roster is definitely not good enough to win.
But it's the rest of the logic that makes no sense to me. Because those things really don't stop you from improving the roster.
I think A. JR gets these ideas in his head, which shows with signings like Ceci. Then we are hell bent from there. One of those ideas, is Jankowski at 3C.
While the rest of us think that's dumb as hell, we also think signing Ceci is dumb as hell too. But here we are.</div></div>
Yeah I guess maybe I`m just being optimistic? I would like to think and hope GMJR and Pens organization knows that this team won`t cut it and that moves are needed. I`d like to think they have a plan and that the FA signings weren`t the end of that plan. I think there are still transactions to be made and that there will be opportunities available as many teams are going to want to make moves as well.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 22, 2020 at 4:27 p.m.
Thread:
If they cant make a trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>So rust after having a career year and has developed great chemistry with Geno gets bumped to the third line? Yeah fat chance</div></div>
I like Rust but thats hockey management 101. You always improve your team. Granlund is an upgrade. It`s not difficult for players to put up higher point totals when their role and linemates change. There are plenty of players who would have had the same "career year" if put in Rusts position. Look at Vegas. There are a lot of really good hockey players in this league and around the world. There aren`t a lot of top 6, offensive, PP roles in the NHL. I like Rust in a third line role on a healthy team. I think Rust would excel in that role. I think he has good chemistry with ZAR as well. Chances are he is going to play in the top 6 most of the year anyways with injuries on the Pens happening seemingly every game.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 22, 2020 at 2:54 p.m.
Thread:
If they cant make a trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PENSFAN18</b></div><div>Line would be this then
Guentzel-Crosby-Kapanen
Zucker-Malkin-Rust
Tanev-McCann-Granlund
Jankowski-Blueger-Rodrigues
ZAR is out til mid feburary</div></div>
Swap Rust and Granlund and keep Tanev on 4th. Put Sceviour in for Aston-Reese.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 22, 2020 at 2:53 p.m.
Thread:
If they cant make a trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>So is Kapanen but Kapanen is much better at running a 3rd line than Rust. You would be way better off swapping them</div></div>
You aren`t wrong but They want to use Kapanen with Sid and have said so numerous times.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 22, 2020 at 2:52 p.m.
Thread:
If they cant make a trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>Lines wrong but I would like the signing</div></div>
What is wrong with the lines. I don`t think this is how the team is going to look by Jan 13 but if this is the roster they do start with then I think this is my ideal lineup and one that I would assume Sullivan would use as well - at least very similar.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 22, 2020 at 2:50 p.m.
Thread:
If they cant make a trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HadesOfSoCal</b></div><div>Miller either signs in Anaheim or retires.
He won’t be going cup running at this point.</div></div>
Why?
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 22, 2020 at 2:50 p.m.
Thread:
If they cant make a trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>I'm just curious why you think they are going to make a trade?
I honestly think their roster is probably set. Which is a really sad situation. But it is what it is.
GMJR has all but said Jankowski is our 3C. As dumb a move as that is.
He wants someone to take faceoffs. Which is why he won't play on the wing.
The problem is he's as soft as brassard, Sheahand, Bjugstad. That just doesn't bode well for his playing a 3C which is why he got replaced by Lucic in CGY.</div></div>
They will because they are all in and this current roster I don`t think is good enough to win. The only reason they haven`t is because of question marks surrounding the season and travel.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 22, 2020 at 2:49 p.m.
Thread:
If they cant make a trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Rust shouldn't be on the 3rd line</div></div>
Rust is a third liner on a cup contender. I much prefer him on the third line. He can move up whenever someone misses a game (probably almost every game)
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 21, 2020 at 4:29 p.m.
Thread:
Since EDM needs LHD help
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thoughts???</div></div>
Would love that trade and signing. I think Pens would look for a better 3rd pair D than Riikola though. Maybe mid-season trade?
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 18, 2020 at 1:10 p.m.
Thread:
Pens prospect pyramid hint its awful
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>No one is expecting Poulin to be a star but 50-60 points is very reasonable considering his success in the Q and based off prospect rankings. POJ needs to put on some more weight but I think he could be a really solid steady puck moving D. He’s the kind of guy who needs more time similar to Dumo. Dumo was drafted in 2009 and didn’t make an impact till 2015/16</div></div>
I hope Poulin can be that guy. I just think that he is only going to be that guy on Sids line and not as the main piece on his own line. I think he would be a useful player anywhere in the lineup though. Even i he amounts to nothing more than a third liner then I still think he would be nice piece.
POJ is difficult. Dumo was a great success story. I hope POJ can do the same but I don`t think he will ever get to Dumos level. Encouraging to see him getting hyped up from a size standpoint though.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 17, 2020 at 5:37 p.m.
Thread:
Pens prospect pyramid hint its awful
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>really undervaluing Maniscalco and OConnor.
OConnor has torn it up everywhere he has gone.
And Maniscalco put up almost a point per game as a defenseman in the NCAA. That's a hard task for even a forward to do because of the competition level. For a defenseman that's really good.
Hell Makar who is a looking like a great defenseman only put up 1.2 roughly. So to say a guy who basically put up .9 ppg at the NCAA level is a "might turn into something" is a bit absurd.
He has the size and tools to be a solid 2RD at the NHL level.</div></div>
O Connor is really nothing special. A senior scoring a point per game in college is common. They hardly ever amount to anything. O Connor wouldn`t even be on the radar on other teams but because Pens pool is so dry his potential is inflated.
Same with Maniscalco. I think he may have an outside chance to play decently in the NHL. But again, he was 21 years old. Makar did what he did at 18/19.
The Pens don`t have a single prospect who should excite anyone. I`m a fan of Poulin but its unlikely he is a top 6 forward if we are being honest. At least as a driving force. He could be a top 6 F with Crosby, Crosby makes AHL players top 6 forwards. So Poulin could put up points but once Crosby is gone don`t expect him to become a star - at all.
Same with POJ. Nothing spectacular.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 14, 2020 at 5:32 p.m.
Thread:
Go For It
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>Dude he was awful in the play ins and is 43. Usually I’d just shrug off play in performance because of the whole COVID pause, but in his case, being 43 years old, I would be very hesitant about giving him a contract next season. There is a reason he hasn’t resigned with Boston yet. He’d be 44 years old going into next years playoffs. MTL showed Pittsburgh we have to get younger and faster like in 2016 and 2017. Chara doesn’t accomplish that.</div></div>
Yeah I think he had a tough time ramping back up to speed. Again I know he isn`t what he used to be but I`ll take him in a bottom pairing, protectionist, PK role. I think he is more than capable of taking care of that. Boston still played him as their top Dman along with McAvoy. He would struggle in that position but thankfully would not need to do that with Pens in that role.
I agree on speed but there is quite a lot of speed elsewhere in the lineup. I think it`s important to have an element of size and toughness. Chara provides that like NOBODY else in the history of the game and that part of things has not changed with age. He is as terrifying as ever, especially to these young guys coming into the league.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 14, 2020 at 5:30 p.m.
Thread:
Go For It
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>everyone is replaceable till you don't have anyone to replace them with. You replaced Pettersson with Matheson. Which right now, is a hope and dream.
No on knows what we have there. We could end up with an awful defense worse than last years.
And McCann is only 24 years old. Last year he was 23. Most guys are just getting into the league at 21-22 years old. Let alone breaking out. No he's not Jake, he's not netting 40 goals. But if you don't think after the streak he had he's capable of 30 you are mistaken. Consistency is the hardest part for a younger player. Instead of giving up on him, you let him figure it out. The speed and the talent is there. A bit more consistency in his role would help. Giving up two good young players for an aging one and a backup goalie is unreal. No way. There are 56 games next year. We'll be fine.</div></div>
You have to consider Pens situation and the overall team additions and subtractions as a result of the deal.
You lose MP and McCann. Sure, two good pieces right now and the future. Could McCann score 30 (82 game fixed) next year? Maybe. Probably not on the third line where he is currently slotted though. McCann is a good player. That is what he is. He will not be a consistent 30 goal scorer in this league. He wasn`t even a prolific scorer in juniors. Max P would be much more likely to score 30 and is an upgrade no matter how you slice it. Granlund also has a higher ceiling. You also bring him in as a result of this deal as well. Pens are all in for 2 years so the value of taking a chance on McCann to MAYBE amount to a 30 goal scorer (IMO quite unlikely) is void because you are replacing him for 2 years with an actual 30 goal scorer and a guy who truly has elite potential in Granlund.
You lose MP and replace him with Chara. Chara fits the role MP will need to play this year better. Can`t argue that. Matheson might not work out. That`s true. I anticipate he is at least a serviceable dman though. The Pens also have POJ and other prospects who could step up this year if need be. Pens also need to sign Marino next year. That would be difficult to keep Letang, Dumo, MP, Matheson and Marino all above 4M a year. One of them is going to have to either way - the most logical is MP as he has value. No other team would take Matheson right now.
Fleury > Desmith. Jarry has less than 70 NHL games experience. That is a lot of trust in someone who has yet to truly establish himself. If he doesn`t play as a top 15 NHL goalie this year then we are screwed. I feel like having Fleury as a plan B (someone who can play a lot of games and ALSO act as a mentor to Jarry is very important). This would also be a huge boost to team morale and chemistry. I think everyone in the org. would be happy to have him back as a safety net. Hopefully Jarry doesn`t need him but It would be wise to have that insurance there.
So all in all this deal makes the team MUCH better. Especially considering their window is 2 years. So they are much better in the 2 years we are discussing.
In: Chara, Granlund, Max P, Fleury, Zetterlund
Out: McCann, MP, Desmith, Riikola, Sceviour
Max P >>> McCann
Chara > MP (in terms of the role these players would be playing and intangibles brought to the table. I would choose 1 year of Chara over 1 year of MP NO PROBLEM)
Fleury > Desmith
Riikola and Sceviour replaced with Granlund. Or Haula. Or Perry. Or Kovalchuk.
Bottom line: This team is better positioned to compete for a Stanley Cup during their 2 year window. I would feel quite confident that if the Pens had this roster they would have as good of a shot as anyone to win it all this year. I can`t say the same for how it is currently structured in real life.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 14, 2020 at 12:41 p.m.
Thread:
Go For It
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>we aren't giving up a solid 2LD and a young player who is on the verge of breaking out for a backup goaltender and patches.
Way too much for a guy they are trying to move for cap reasons to begin with. And way to much for MAF. The absolute last thing this team needs is a 3.5 mil back up goaltender especially in a season that only has 56 games.</div></div>
Solid 2LD who is replaceable. MP is not anything spectacular. He is expendable.
A bit of a reach to say McCann is on verge of breaking out. He has been in the league for 6 years. He is what he is. Good player. Not great. Doesn`t bring anything unique or spectacular. Has a good shot and he might be able to score 20 goals consistently but finding a 20 goal scorer in the NHL isn`t very difficult these days.
You are putting a lot of trust in Jarry. He has never been a #1. He has played less than 70 NHL games in his career. I think the Pens would be wise to have an experienced backup that can help guide him and act as a safety net if Jarry can`t handle being the guy. I think the organization would be wise to look into getting an experienced and capable backup. In this scenario they get that while also adding another top player. Spending 7m total on goalies isn`t that bad.
The team fits under the cap, IMO greatly improved in all areas as well. You can`t honestly say that the team as it currently stands is even nearly as good as this team with these moves and signings.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 14, 2020 at 12:35 p.m.
Thread:
Go For It
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>I would consider that patches trade tbh but please for the love of God dont sign chara.</div></div>
I gotta disagree. Chara is still an extremely valuable piece. Especially in the role he would play on this team. We don`t need him dancing around scoring 20 goals. We need him to provide leadership, size and toughness in a 3rd pairing, PK role. He can still excel in that role. Every player and coach in the Pens organization would be ecstatic to add Chara. He is one of a kind even if he isn`t what he used to be.
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