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Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2021 at 2:58 p.m.

Thread: Mantha Tuch Brisson Elvenes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>none of them would be on the checking line and I wouldnt want to add any of them to start</div></div>

You think a 3rd round pick and $7.5M cash gets you the 6'5" power forward who led Detroit in goals and points through last year's trade deadline? Take that one up with MacLellan. Neutral parties said no, when I posted it on the Vegas side, but maybe he really likes the idea of not being able to re-sign Reilly Smith next year, because his goalies take up all his cap space, and feeling like he traded Jakub Vrana for frickin' Dadonov?

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2021 at 2:45 p.m.

Thread: Mantha Tuch Brisson Elvenes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Redguard191</b></div><div>You just proved his point with that roster. Also that link is not Vegas' side, it is yours.</div></div>

I'm not in the NHL, but thank you.

Here's the Vegas side link, I think: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2880724

They can demote Rondbjerg, and package Roy, Patrick and a 1st for any RW that can get retained below $3.7M. Kessel, Zucker, Rust, whatever. I didn't want to make that post be about how they upgrade 2RW at the deadline, because that's secondary scoring, and this trade is about clearing out their current, overpriced secondary scoring to add a franchise center.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2021 at 2:44 p.m.

Thread: Mantha Tuch Brisson Elvenes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Yeah nice try thinking you can sneak Peterka in there, Adams faces times you so you can see him and the entire office sincerely laughing at that offer, Also dont know why Buffalo is paying for Allen, when Anderson has been great for them</div></div>

Can leave Anderson out of the MTL trade. They're clearly rebuilding either way, and might as well develop a goalie prospect.

You want to switch JJP to Elvenes or Quinn? Or do you want one of them on Rochester's checking line?

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2021 at 2:11 p.m.

Thread: Mantha Tuch Brisson Elvenes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>VGKNation702</b></div><div>come on.....Hague, Brisson,Tuch,Whitecloud, Elvenes, Dadonov Smith, Pachal, Stephenson

who tf is playing for us? this is ridiculous lol</div></div>

Pacchioretti, Eichel, Stone
Marchesault, Karlsson, Patrick
Krebs Janmark Hagelin
Carrier Amadio Roy
Kolesar Rondbjerg

Martinez Pietrangelo
Theodore Coughlan
McNabb Hutton
Bischoff

Lehner
Brossoit

But seriously, read the description. The Vegas side is posted here:
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/525714?post_id=2768642

Or wait. It's here: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2880724

And at the bottom of that, I just commented a suggestion to trade a 1st to Ari for Boyd and a max retained Kessel, then to trade a 4th to STL for a 4th, and I typed lines in that comment. Same term left on Kessell as Reilly, but I think Kessell is off to a better start, and probably did better last year, on a worse team? By not trading their first in the Eichel deal, Vegas can still make other moves to get to the playoffs, while adding a franchise center. By not trading Krebs, they can develop Krebs, Patrick, and Roy at center while waiting for Eichel.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2021 at 1:48 p.m.

Thread: Mantha Tuch Brisson Elvenes

Breakdown for Sabres: Peterka, 3rd, and just under $8M for Mantha, a big power forward who led the Wings in goals and points up to the trade deadline. Then Eichel for Tuch and prospects.

Breakdown for WSH: two 2nd line wings and some future stuff for a bigger, better 1st line wing. Get their old 3LW back.

Breakdown for Vegas: Eichel, under the cap, without giving up Krebs or a 1st.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2021 at 1:32 p.m.

Thread: If guys are staying on LTIR

I posted something on the Vegas side. People said the Caps need more (https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/525714?post_id=2768642).

I posted it on the Buffalo side: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2880827

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2021 at 1:30 p.m.

Thread: Looking into Next year

If Backstrom is done, the Caps take that today. If Backstrom is coming back, it costs them cap space to sign their Sprong, Cholowski, and their goalies.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2021 at 1:29 p.m.

Thread: Eichel cap solution

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Marshallchapman9</b></div><div>No</div></div>

What would be added to get Montreal on board?

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2021 at 1:27 p.m.

Thread: Eichel cap solution

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>Not sure why the Caps would think about trading Mantha with that return. They gave up a young top 6 guy and a first to get him</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BuFfaLOFaN</b></div><div>Do this from the Caps side and Buffalo!</div></div>

Posted on Buf side, with sweeteners to WSH: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2880827

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2021 at 12:55 p.m.

Thread: If guys are staying on LTIR

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sabresforlife</b></div><div>I'm just guessing but I think the Sabres would prefer a quality prospect and a draft pick (2nd) - Mantha is a decent player but he was reported as unhappy in Detroit so I doubt he'd be happy in Buffalo - I think after recent seasons Sabres would be very hesitant to take a play with a possible negative vibe.</div></div>

A lot of players seem to have been unhappy in Detroit the last few years. Not uncommon on rebuilding teams. Nine games in, Buffalo looks kind of like a playoff team. Adding Mantha, Tuch, Hague and Whitecloud makes them definitely a playoff team. Mantha would have fun there.

Mantha led the Wings in points at the deadline. He's got five points early this year. He's big and he's strong on the puck. Buffalo and Detroit probably have to add a little bit to get WSH on board with this, but I don't think they'd regret it.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2021 at 12:41 p.m.

Thread: Eichel cap solution

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>Not sure why the Caps would think about trading Mantha with that return. They gave up a young top 6 guy and a first to get him</div></div>

Okay. I edited in picks and a prospect to WSH. Thank you.

Or maybe knock it down to Oshie in the first deal? I really don't know what WSH would/wouldn't consider, but I think two top-six wings for one, in the same cap space, is a win-now trade. If Backstrom and Oshie should be back to full strength by the playoffs, then there might be some version that could help Washington, even though I agree Mantha>>Dadonov or Smith

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2021 at 12:37 p.m.

Thread: Eichel cap solution

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BuFfaLOFaN</b></div><div>Do this from the Caps side and Buffalo!</div></div>

Posted on the Caps' side two hours ago, in comments on a trade with Vegas. No objections, yet.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2021 at 11:27 a.m.

Thread: If guys are staying on LTIR

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sabresforlife</b></div><div>I don't know what team needs are - but I think Dadnov or Smith would be worth a 2nd for a team in Cup contention with secondary scoring needs</div></div>

Yep. If the Caps are missing Backstrom and/or Oshie, they would need secondary scoring, and either or both at 2.5M could be worth picking up.

If the Caps expect to get fully healthy, I wonder if Buffalo would add a 2nd to those two to land Anthony Mantha, while retaining enough to balance cap.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2021 at 11:14 a.m.

Thread: Who is best available net-front shot-tipper for PP

In case it was unclear, the Capitals accept. Where should Hischier and McLeod fit into their lineup?

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2021 at 10:33 a.m.

Thread: If guys are staying on LTIR

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sabresforlife</b></div><div>I think if the Knights trade for Eichel there may be a trade before the Trade - either Smith or Dadnov going to a team but being retained 50% by the Sabres first</div></div>

Interesting. I don't honestly know if WSH has cap space, but what do you think they would cost?

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2021 at 10:30 a.m.

Thread: Auston Matthews

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GenXHockey</b></div><div>Lol, I completely thought it was kakko my bad. Thought it was odd.

First Barron has to make the nhl…</div></div>

Kakko's issue is that he's not scoring this year, and took most of last year to get going. Not really what one expects from a 2nd overall pick, but for every Echel and Svechnikov, there's a Nolan Patrick and a Ryan Murray.

Fox is from New York, and earlier commenters said he asked the Hurricanes to trade him to New York, where he signed an eight year extension right around the time I posted this, so it ain't happening. I tried another one, and neither side seems ready to accept. Most NYR fans replied by insisting that Matthews only has "two" years left on his contract. smh

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2021 at 9:59 a.m.

Thread: If guys are staying on LTIR

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ClockReads2113</b></div><div>I imagine VGK could still trade those guys for at least something. Like Dad could probably get a 2nd and McNabb a 3rd or something. I could be off but know they don't just have to throw those guys away for a AHL defender.</div></div>

Dadonov's m-NTC and 5Mx2 contract limit the teams that Vegas can offer him to. If there are no takers, and that's the stumbling block to getting Eichel, I see them parting with McNabb and a 3rd to get it done.

I didn't see Irwin as an important piece, here. Just giving him a chance to stay in the NHL and compete for McNabb's old spot in Vegas.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 3, 2021 at 9:43 a.m.

Thread: Ritchie

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Saskleaf</b></div><div>Here's one things to consider though:</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>odyssey</b></div><div>leafs wont move him, hes a player they want for the playoffs
i dont like regular season ritchie but he will be a better playoff player for us</div></div>

Good point. Richie has 9 points in 38 playoff games. Hagelin has 50 pts in 141 playoff games, and won back to back Cups.

Are you saying you want to add a prospect, too? Or is a 3rd enough?

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 2, 2021 at 6:40 p.m.

Thread: Ritchie

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Saskleaf</b></div><div>Ok, that more or less a lateral swap so I don't see why either team would have interest.</div></div>

Because the Leafs know Nick Ritchie doesn't work in their top six, but they don't know yet whether Hagelin does. Similar offense and defense, but by different means. Maybe Hagelin's foot speed and puck control will work better opposite Marner or Nylander than Ritchie did.

The Caps like the fourth line they have, but Ritchie would work there, too.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 2, 2021 at 6:24 p.m.

Thread: Ritchie

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Saskleaf</b></div><div>Then the leafs will have no choice but to keep him. They are too tight to the cap to retain any salary.</div></div>

I don't think the Caps are giving back Hagelin unless the Leafs add a 3rd.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 2, 2021 at 1:46 p.m.

Thread: The Bergy plan

The Capitals, obviously, decline.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 2, 2021 at 12:47 p.m.

Thread: Ritchie

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Babatunde</b></div><div>He couldn't get a point with Matthews and Marner on his line</div></div>

RIght. But maybe with somebody good? :) :) :)

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 2, 2021 at 11:32 a.m.

Thread: Constructive Feedback Please

This guarantees Toronto has cap space for whatever Matthews asks, and it shows a real commitment to winning at all costs.

On the other hand, each team still needs a #2 center. :)

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 2, 2021 at 8:13 a.m.

Thread: AM to NYR take two

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Penguins_Legend_Sheary</b></div><div>I think it would need to include Lafreniere, Kakko & Fox.</div></div>

That's what I thought at first, but both sides' fans commented that Fox was staying in New York. https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/525270?post_id=2766526

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 2, 2021 at 8:05 a.m.

Thread: AM to NYR take two

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>lcarey37</b></div><div>Drury would block Dubas number if he asked about a trade like this lol</div></div>

To be clear, a Rangers fan posted a lowball offer last night (I'm not saying it was or wasn't Drury. I wouldn't know), with some inflammatory comments in the description claiming he thought Matthews wouldn't want to stay and be a hero in a city that loves him. I'm posting a fair price as a Caps fan. I hope both these teams lose, and I don't care whether they reach an agreement, but this is what Matthews costs.

If you think it's a lot, build and post the Rangers' side of it, and tell me you don't like the future of a team with Matthews, Miller, Reunanen, Schneider, Fox, Lindgren, Panarin, Strome, Barron, Gauthier, Kreider, Shesterkin, Georgiev, etc.

Brodie is not a cap dump. He's better than Nils right now and for the next few years, probably. But this barely leaves the Leafs room to sign RFAs the next year, and after that they need to start making trades for cap space, the same as the Rangers.

If you want to tell me I'm a Leafs fan, I"m not. If you want to tell me you don't want to pay the price it would take to get Matthews, I'm glad to hear it. I didn't want to read a hundred posts of Rangers fans trying to convince Leafs fans that Gauthier, Barron, Schneider and a 1st were going to save their franchise. Have a nice day.

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