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Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 23, 2022 at 2:30 p.m.
Thread: Meier
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Every year, every deadline, every off-season, the same thing happens. Everyone excepts these insanely high prices for wingers...and rarely do the actual trades come in that high. For Meier, the trade value depends on his contract situation. This offer is for 2023-24, so its done after this season is over. Just think about the timeline....

<strong>Early March </strong>-- Trade deadline (SJS may get more for teams that need the extra help for playoffs. But this would not be that scenario)

<strong>Early June </strong>-- Stanley Cup Playoffs complete

<strong>Mid June </strong>-- First arbitration window (if SJS does not elect arbitration in June, their only options are extension or qualifying offer. If he doesn't want to extend, its only QO. If SJS does elect arbitration, its 1-year, probably around $8.75 million, UFA in summer 2024 and no extension until January 2024)

<strong>Late June </strong>-- NHL Draft

<strong>Later June or early July</strong> -- Qualifying deadline (if SJS does not qualify him, he becomes UFA a few days later. If they do offer QO, its 1-year $10 million, UFA in summer 2024 and no extension until January 2024)

<strong>Early July </strong>-- Free agency begins (if Meier is not heading for arbitration and has not been qualified, he will be free to sign anywhere)

San Jose is in a tricky spot. Buying teams will want more than one-year out of him, so the trade return will be discounted. If he asks for big money (or wants to get to UFA sooner), the trade return will be discounted.

I listed some of the quotes that people are saying about this situation <a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/654374?post_id=3689676">here</a>.

<em>"With the gigantic qualifying offer due to him at the end of the season, some teams may view and pursue him as a pending UFA instead of an RFA. If he’s to be considered an RFA, his starting value on the market is considerably less than the Alex DeBrincat deal last summer."

"His contract status could also affect whatever return the Sharks might hope to get for him. Interested parties could prove reluctant to pay a big price for a talented winger like Meier if they're to face an arbitration hearing next summer for a player who could depart in a year's time via free agency."

"What can they get in return? I think they have to take a notch below the Alex DeBrincat deal that the Chicago Blackhawks took this summer. Not only was DeBrincat’s qualifying offer less, but you had one more season of DeBrincat on a somewhat reasonable deal, whereas already from the jump, you’re getting Meier as a rental. The Blackhawks were able to get a first-, second-, and third-round pick, but you see No. 7 overall from Ottawa as pretty high up in the draft. you’re probably dealing with teams that are way later in the first round, probably closer to the second-round pick they got from the Sens at No. 39 overall. Then you factor in what happens next, which is that maybe somebody treats him as a pure rental, but then the prices are probably even lower than that. I think it’s an easy warning shot that the Sharks are probably in a really tough spot trying to deal Timo Meier as we move closer to the March 3 trade deadline.” </em>



As for this. I have been around here a while and most frequent Devils fans know me. As do many fans of other teams. I don't think anyone has ever lodged a similar complaint before.</div></div>

I feel that this trade warrants a complaint. Your previous ones do not, but a point per game player traded for nothing is absolutely absurd
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 5, 2022 at 12:26 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 19, 2022 at 5:38 p.m.
Thread: Big Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Not in favor.

I wouldn't move Sharangovich for Bennett straight up.

Gostisbehere is not what we'd need on third pair. His real weakness is in 5v5, which is where he would be playing all his minutes.</div></div>

Meant to put ghost on the second pairing as he plays a more similar game to Luke Hughes. Marino and Hughes will be there d pairing for the future and marino working with a guy like ghost will prepare him for a similar style to Luke. I think sharangovich has been one of our worst players (probably bottom 5) this season. I love sharangovich but he has looked invisible and if it continues, Bennett is a guy that makes an impact even when he isn’t on the score sheet. I like Bennett a lot more than sharangovich
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 6, 2022 at 11:45 p.m.
Thread: Chychrun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smitty426</b></div><div>Agree and disagree
Yes Chychrun may nor be needed but... Graves is gone you would assume
If so, Siegenthaler is only starter
Bahl and Okhotiuk are bottom guys for now
Smith is a stop gap
Muk is a LS RD
Hughes on the way
I think they could get Hague to replace Geavrs

So left side is
Siegenthaler
Hague
Bahl/Okhotiuk

All kind of heavy abs d minded
Hughes in the wings so the O comes at the end of the season

Right side is Dougie, Severson, Marino with Damon probably moved at TDL
Nemec on the way and Muk further down the prospect line but there

Hague is a but of overkill but we need some overlap
If Hughes/Nemec stumble we are going the wrong way
Hague wouldn't cost us half of what Chychrun would</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smitty426</b></div><div>Agree and disagree
Yes Chychrun may nor be needed but... Graves is gone you would assume
If so, Siegenthaler is only starter
Bahl and Okhotiuk are bottom guys for now
Smith is a stop gap
Muk is a LS RD
Hughes on the way
I think they could get Hague to replace Geavrs

So left side is
Siegenthaler
Hague
Bahl/Okhotiuk

All kind of heavy abs d minded
Hughes in the wings so the O comes at the end of the season

Right side is Dougie, Severson, Marino with Damon probably moved at TDL
Nemec on the way and Muk further down the prospect line but there

Hague is a but of overkill but we need some overlap
If Hughes/Nemec stumble we are going the wrong way
Hague wouldn't cost us half of what Chychrun would</div></div>

Hughes is good enough to play now, he’s gonna be a top four hit later this nhl season. Their LHD is locked up
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 6, 2022 at 1:06 p.m.
Thread: Paying for better depth
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>Well some of them are which is why Edmonton made it to final four and 2 of these teams didn't make playoffs and one that did was eliminated by Edmonton. Think it's fair to suggest Edmonton has better players.
Which of these three trades do you need help figuring out why it's a massive overpay?
4th overall pick who's consistently proven to make his line mates better including McDavid.
Or the devils trade that is including two first round picks for at best a very marginal upgrade maybe.
Or the 3 first round picks for chychrun who can't stay healthy...</div></div>

There are multiple trade proposals.All of the proposals are bad and would get declined by every team. Relax and leave the website if you think every single player on the oilers is god