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Forum: Armchair-GMAug 15, 2017 at 9:00
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 15, 2017 at 1:23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dennisb</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MajesticWalrus</b></div><div>Is there a reason why you keep posting this same exact trade on every single one of your armchair gm threads. I'm interested in what you say but not when you repeat yourself. We don't need to hear this again.

Sheary has succeeded at every level and is better than your average nhl 1st liner, so he played with Crosby, at least he has chemistry with him because not everyone does. Sheary put up good stats while averaging low minutes. Nobody on the other side of this trade is worth acquiring in exchange for Sheary.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ess</b></div><div>

BTW ... July 20th was the last time I proposed a deal involving Sheary for Lowry ... I don't feel like that's spamming.

I posted as WPG and PIT because not everyone follows every team. They just follow their team.</div></div>

Yeah, it becomes even more fun when that's a guy who is even not a fan of the teams that you have a trade between is going into this kind of stuff. Looks like someone is loosing countenance on an issue you personally have nothing to do with.

Anyway but to throw an idea to discussion I think there is really more possible to trade with Jets at the deadline if they are not going to the playoffs of course... And Enstrom could be a centerpiece of a large trade. He was a guy we wanted when we finally got Daley and he's actually a pending UFA now. So Enstrom, Lowry, Dano might be a package we could offer Sheary, Pouliot (he's a western guy), a high pick and/or/a combination of another taker/prospect. I'd rather overpay more at the TDL for a certain issue than before the season for a guy just really like. What do you think?</div></div>

There might need to be cap retention with Enstrom depending what happens before then. He's a making $5m. I'd want to address the C position before then in case it doesn't work so we'd have time to re-address it as soon as possible.

It would depend on the pick and prospect. I think picks have more value on draft day as teams might look to move up to draft a guy, but that's very situational. Enstrom would probably fit very well, I'm just not a fan of rental players. I like what they did with Hagelin and Daley because they had them for another year or more. Even Perron, who didn't work out with PIT had more time under contract which allowed us to move him to recoup assets (Hagelin).
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 13, 2017 at 9:32
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MajesticWalrus</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ess</b></div><div>PIT trade make zero sense though, because we could have chased both those players in free agency if we wanted in. They don't fit in to the cap structure Rutherford likes and Gagner, a play making center, is not what we need. We need a 3rd line center who's very good defensively and can add some offense, not a offensively talented by often absent scoring line center who isn't consistant enough to be a 2C and who's not been a PKer. Del Zotto hasn't played a full season ... he barely plays half seasons and his D is also suspect and his offense is basically moot because we have (2) 50pt Dman.</div></div>

Malkin is good defensively and Crosby is decent defensively and on top of that Crosby's great at faceoffs so a very good defensive Center is not critical. Gagner is great offensively and would be great with Hagelin and Kessel so that we can finally have three 1st lines again. And Maata is only on our team right now for one thing, his offense, which is totally invisible right now whereas del zotto is established and would do what he can't. And as for fitting in the cap, Pittsburgh has more than 3 million in cap space and losing Maata adds a little over 4 million to the cap space. That's 7 million, Gagner is on a contract that's a little over 3 million and del zotto is 3 million. That's 6 million. Pittsburgh would have around 1 million in cap space.</div></div>

Are you suggestion PIT PK with Malkin and Crosby? We lost our 2 PK centers in Bonino and Cullen (who's more than likely not coming back). Rowney can and has PK, but PKing with Malking or Crosby means they're not optimizing their energy and time creating offense, etc. PIT needs a center who can replace Bonino on the PK more than they need more point production.

Maatta was projected to be a 2way defender, not just a point producer. He's on the PK more than he is the PP, and while he's struggles often he's 23 and has room to grow, or be traded for everyday pieces rather than 2 players who might show up and provide some offense. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Theflash9193</b></div><div>Well it makes sense you'd question this TRADE as it's not your regular lowry+Dani for Sheary+pouliot.</div></div>

When was the last time I posted that trade before today?
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 13, 2017 at 9:03
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MajesticWalrus</b></div><div>Is there a reason why you keep posting this same exact trade on every single one of your armchair gm threads. I'm interested in what you say but not when you repeat yourself. We don't need to hear this again.

Sheary has succeeded at every level and is better than your average nhl 1st liner, so he played with Crosby, at least he has chemistry with him because not everyone does. Sheary put up good stats while averaging low minutes. Nobody on the other side of this trade is worth acquiring in exchange for Sheary.</div></div>

I think you might have me mistaken for someone else. The last several armchairs I've post involving Lowry did not include sheary. I'm posting this to see what people think of the trade and if I don't get replies I'm going to post it again because the discussion is why I post Armchairs. . Also I'm a Pens fan and Lowry, to me, seems like the idea guy to get ... You have the option of ignoring post you don't like, but no control over what other people post.

Sheary is valuable and can put up great numbers with out Crosby, maybe not 0.86ppg, but I think he'd put up 0.65-0.70. We have Sprong, ZAR, and with Dano we should be able to replace Sheary with out much issue ... WPG has no reason to trade Lowry so we'd have to over pay a bit.

Lowry is not scraps. He's a prototypical player, big, hits, pk, and puts up some points ... he also offers net front on the PP at a very reasonable salary and is an RFA.

Discussion welcome, but don't think we have control over other people's actions
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 13, 2017 at 1:46
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 13, 2017 at 1:26
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 13, 2017 at 1:19
Thread: 3C - TDL
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 13, 2017 at 2:11
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Willian_Cardoso</b></div><div>Good trade for both teams. However, I'd be some changes is your offensive lineup.

Guentzel has to be Sid's partner and Rust could play with Geno and Kessel.

Kunh as a 3rd? No way. In your scenario we should sign Jagr or Iginla to play as a RW alongside Faksa and Hagelin. We would need a scorer to play in our bottom 6. We have Sprong, hut I don't think he should start the season in NHL, so...

I'd put Reaves as a 4th line LW and Archibald as 4th RW. Kunh and McKenzie would be the replacements.</div></div>

I didn't really do anything with the lines besides move players to their positions ... now I adjusted them the way I see them starting out, but of course they'd change through out the season as people are injured, slack or slum, or earn more.

I would not sign Jagr. I don't think he's fast enough to play with our team. Our D step up to often to have a slow guys trying to chase down players going the other way. There's a large difference between regular season and the playoffs, especially playing 24 or more extra games. He'd be great in Vegas. I signed Jiri Hudler, he's a 2 way vet player who's won and played for the cup. He's had some down seasons (last year a major illness) but still might add some depth scoring on either wing. He's a great locker room guy from what I've read and someone I can see the team fighting to let Sid hand the cup off to.

Kuhnhackle will never be more then he's allowed to be. He's above Achibald and Reaves on my Depth chart. His points production is pretty great for a 4th line who only player 2/3 of the season, he's got good size and speed, he hits. and he pks, which all describes McKenzie as well. Reaves is checker and a fighter and he's 30, which means he'll not improving much at all. He's improved his skating (at least his speed) but hows his hands and hockey IQ? I think Kuhnhackle just needs to play. I bench Reaves when I don't expect much trouble, and never would have traded for him. I play all my wingers with all my centers through out camp and the first half of the year to find chemistry, etc. and don't confine people to their projected line or role ... otherwise Sheary wouldn't have the value he has right now.

My 4th line is pretty big for the Pens and all players can check and PK and provide some offense. If Cullen does come back I'd have him and Rowney split time allowing Cullen to be rested up for the playoffs.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 12, 2017 at 7:13
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 12, 2017 at 6:59
Thread: Why not?
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 11, 2017 at 1:09
Thread: Trading Ovi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>I think if you throw in a couple of top defensemen from St. Louis, and three more first round picks, the Caps' front office starts talking it over, and weighing their options. Ovechkin and Tarasenko would be incredible together, and I'm not trying to say it can't happen. Just that you might want to look at the Gretzky trade for an estimate of value, or maybe the Scott Stevens free agent compensation. The Blues came out of that one okay, taking on a franchise player, and givng Washington five late first round draft picks, and no current players. Shall we try that again, for old times' sake?</div></div>

Ovi ... is not Gretzky. He's not Crosby. He's not even Tarasenko. He doesn't make his teammates better and at 31 is already falling out of the top 10 to 30 players in the league, but is still paid in the top 5 ... he's probably not even a top 5 LW in hockey right now, and won't be by this seasons end. He's not living up to his contract which is one of the MAJOR reasons WSH is in such crappy cap trouble.

Steen, Boumeester, 1st, and 2nd ... That's the most I'd give, but of course that's to much cap for the CAPS and I'd want cap retention, min $1.538m (He'd make the same as Tarasenko, even though he's not as good) because he's not worth his contract IMO. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>Another illuminating example of why trading Ovechkin for "cap space" makes the Caps worse right now, and for the foreseeable future. Hudler, Miller, and Steen, the three people you've added with Ovechkin's cap space, are all older than him, and combined last year for ten fewer goals than Ovechkin scored.

But let's talk about why you've got three players off of Team Sweden on different lines. If Oshie's chemistry with Steen is so great, how come he consistently scores more goals in Washington?</div></div>

Because you can't just score your way to the Stanely Cup Finals and win. You need depth and 2 way play ... and losing his cap adds 3 players of depth. Maybe those are not the best 3 (and Hudler won't cost $3m, so you could spread that around).

Because WSH has better centers than STL ... which is why it makes little sense for them to trade for Ovy when they need a center like Duchene or N.Hopkins far more.