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Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 14, 2023 at 4:16 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CBA</b></div><div>Eum sending Barron &amp; RHP in the AHL could be the only way not to lose anyone

Newhook-Suzuki-Caufield
Slafkovsky-Dach-Anderson
Ylönen-Monahan-Gallagher
Pezzetta-Evans-Armia

Guhle-Savard
Matheson-Kovacevic
Xhekaj-Harris

DeSmith
Lindstrom
Wideman

Dvorak : IR

I think they would waive Lindstrom over Wideman as well if needed

But there will be injuries and we will see what happens </div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>You think management is going to send Barron and RHP down to Laval simply to keep Wideman in the lineup because guys like him? Not too mention that what happens when Dvo comes back?

Habs have simply too many players to be able to keep one of the 23 man spots available for Wideman just because players like him. It just doesn't make sense to go so much out of their way for him considering he's such a non option to be used as an actual player. All because some players like him. </div></div>

I agree with both of you.

On one side I stronghly think RHP and Harris (Barron stays up IMO) could start in Laval to fit Price under the cap to start the season.

On the other side, Wideman is 100% getting sent down to the AHL throught waivers, like last season. IMO his spot should be taken by Beck for under 9 games or until Dvo comes back.

Next one down would be DeSmith. By puting him on waivers at the same time as Primeau, you increase your chances of keeping at least one. A strategy to consider.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 24, 2023 at 1:22 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 23, 2023 at 1:58 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>I think any time a 24 year old superstar is being traded, you've already lost the trade.. Unless he's explicitly saying he wants to be traded, just sign the guy to whatever he wants.

As for trade value, for sure a 1st, maybe multiple will be involved, a good prospect and a just ok roster player to offset some of the cap. The odds of one of those pieces being as good as EP is slim to none and a decent chance the sum of the parts don't equal him either.

The only true value trade IMHO is trading EP for another teams version of EP in the same type of situation. So basically everyone's happy. Problem is I don't see any other players like that in similar situations right now.

Unless someone else pops up or EP straight up will not resign, the best bet will be to just resign him, even if its a slight overpay. Even if you want to rebuild. Trade everyone else if need be.</div></div>

I think one would assume that the only reason they would be trading him is because he says he's not signing an extension in the same way Tkachuk and Dubois did with their teams. If he's traded, it's not going to be because he and Vancouver can't bridge an AAV gap. It's going to be because the Canucks have been dysfunctional the entire time he's been there.

I think regardless you're going to lose any trade with him (typically when you're trading the best player in the trade you're losing the trade) but the degree to which you lose said trade is based entirely on how you structure the return. You could structure the return like Calgary did with Tkachuk- get an All Star at the tail end of his prime and an extremely good veteran defenseman, and lock both up for a ton of money into their mid thirties, with an eye towards continuing to try and contend. This path also spectacularly backfired for Calgary, was the first nail in likely closing their contention window, and has saddled them with some tough, expensive contracts. That all seems very Vancouver-y- they don't rebuild, they're always trying to make the playoffs, and their attempts to do so rarely ever work.

Alternatively you could structure it like the Eichel trade- acknowledge that your team doesn't have it, don't dig any deeper, trade the guy who wants to be traded, target young players and futures that can ultimately supplement the future Elias Pettersson-esque players that you draft during the rebuild. You're not going to be able to replace Pettersson with a trade, and any attempts to do so will probably not work, so you might as well go for a collection of lottery tickets. Had Calgary traded Tkachuk to, say, a futures package to the Blues, the situation in Calgary might not be so bad.
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