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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 21 at 11:53 a.m.
Thread:
The BU Connection in the Future
Listen any team would love to add a Celebrini but make no mistake about it, getting Celebrini this year would mean the Habs are officially done with the rebuild. I really hope they win it this year.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 21 at 11:27 a.m.
Thread:
Strangely optimistic for the future of the Pens
Just floating an idea out there. Do you think Dubas and the Pens would entertain something like this:
MTL
Anderson
Barron
2024 1st WPG
2025 3rd VAN
2024 7th WSH (We know Dubas loves his 7ths so throwing one in here)
for
PIT
Smith Reilly
2024 2nd PHI
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 21 at 11:20 a.m.
Thread:
Isles 2024-25
I think there definitely is a framework here with a ton of different players. I can see the Habs being interested in Pageau but just not at the expense of Dvorak only, essentially, on the basis of Dvorak being a pending UFA and Pageau still having an extra year after this. Lets be honest, both teams want these contracts off the books here. So the main goal for either team is getting the cap/roster flexibility more than the on ice product. So for any Dvorak for Pageau deal to work, I think the Habs would prefer to not take back extra skaters like Bolduc and Wahlstrom, probably add a different player than RHP who is a home grown player that I think means more to the Habs than elsewhere, so someone like Harris instead. Finally the Isles would need to add a pick. Maybe like a 2nd. That way Isles get a cheaper and less termed Pageau replacement and a young dman that can be part of their core. the Habs take on more term and cap at center but get a home town guy, a draft pick and reduce the roster size a little.
As for the other parts of the deal, I like Wahlstrom and Bolduc. Could very well be targets for the Habs in some form of other trade but I would say the biggest issue with the Habs right now is not cap space but rather roster size. They have too many waiver eligible players to the point of where they need to be the team giving away more players than they're taking on in any deals.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 21 at 12:15 a.m.
Thread:
Ridiculous Fantasy Trade for Crosby and Letang
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Not in the grand scheme of the trade it doesn't, the Pens are freeing up almost as much as Anderson's cap hit essentially rendering his cap hit a wash. You yourself said that Anderson traded on his own would need 50% retention to have positive value or we would have to take back cap. Habs are taking back an addition 88% of his cap essentially making his cap a wash, yes the Pens have to pay him for the next 3 years but they are freeing up an addition 4.85 mil to do so.</div></div>
Not gonna go further into this with you man. You can think whatever you want. I disagree so far in the other direction its not even worth discussing at this point. Hence the agree to disagree comment.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 20 at 11:03 p.m.
Thread:
Ridiculous Fantasy Trade for Crosby and Letang
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Add-on - something that is added to the trade that neither adds to or takes away from the overall package. This trade has equal value, whether Anderson is included or not, we aren't asking for anything in return and essentially the Pens are getting Anderson for positive cap, meaning they aren't paying more than they were to begin with. You all keep looking at this as if the Pens were having to pay assets or additional cap to take Anderson but they aren't the trade would be the same if he wasn't included but the Habs couldn't fit under the cap, therefore he is quite literally an add on to make the trade work from both sides</div></div>
Sweet god, if you think adding 5.5M in Anderson's contract for 3 more years neither adds nor subtracts from the total value, we'll just have to agree to disagree then. Nothing left to be say.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 20 at 9:26 p.m.
Thread:
Ridiculous Fantasy Trade for Crosby and Letang
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>The Pens would be gaining 4 mil per season in cap space for the next 4 years, that absolutely makes him just an add on</div></div>
Can you define what an add on is exactly? Because if its simply: "to add something on to another thing" than you yes you are absolutely right. :rolleyes
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 20 at 9:08 p.m.
Thread:
Ridiculous Fantasy Trade for Crosby and Letang
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Yes <strong>if</strong> you are trying to get value out of trading Anderson, then you need to retain, if you are trying to just dump his contract then you have to add assets. However when it's included in a package where the other team is gaining significant assets and cap space (around 4 mil) then his cap hit is negligible and nothing needs to be done. Tatar was viewed the same way when we got him from Vegas, do you think RyJo had value at his full cap hit? He was just added to the trade for the same reason Anderson is added to this one and in fact was waived as soon as the trade was completed.</div></div>
Those players, even in their worst seasons of their career to that point were producing more than Anderson is now, had less term/cap and were/are arguably more established and higher valued players than JA is now.
I've defended Anderson a lot on here these past years, a lot of the negativity was unwarranted because his fancy stats weren't pretty but this year is absolutely worst case scenario. He has zero value and adding him to any deal makes any value being received, lessened. If he had like 1 year maybe 2 left, then you could convince someone but as is, not a single chance. Even 2 years is pushing it.
Yes I understand adding a player to simply offset the caps a little but this is not it. Anderson isn't just an add on.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 20 at 8:25 p.m.
Thread:
Ridiculous Fantasy Trade for Crosby and Letang
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Anderson isn't a cap dump, he has value, not a lot but still positive value. In a trade like this though his cap hit isn't even considered, similar to Tatar when we traded Patches. Mailloux, Beck and Barron are all high quality assets and two unprotected 2025 1sts is great value</div></div>
I can almost guarantee Anderson after the year he just had, has zero value without retention. If you retain like 40-50%, that's a different story as the main issue is his cap hit. Without retention? Nada. That isn't hyperbole, he is right now one of the worst contracts in the league.
Teams were willing to pay for him when he was still a 20 goal pace guy and the Habs could either retain a little or the other team could send back some offsetting cap. Now that his scoring has evaporated and his physicality and fighting is pretty much non existent also, he's absolutely, without a doubt, a cap dump at full cap hit.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 20 at 4:12 p.m.
Thread:
Does Florida match this offer sheet
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RibsFor25</b></div><div>Reinhart gets 10, montour gets 7... you then have 4 million left for 7 roster players to sign ahahah delete your comment</div></div>
Who says they are resigning all their players??? They're not going to sign a bunch of 30+ yo's but let their 23 yo stud go for nothing... I'll gladly bet they'll have Lundell signed and on the team next year before losing him to a OS.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 20 at 1:00 p.m.
Thread:
Does Florida match this offer sheet
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RibsFor25</b></div><div>He's def getting lowballed on his next contract... panthers have no money to spend. But ya OS wont happen anymore. Would be so smart on MTl's end to do it however ;/ Lindell would easily accept 6.3Mil x3 years</div></div>
Honestly I wouldn't be worried about them not being able to give him a fair contract, its not like his agent will be going for 6.3M off the bat. They're looking at probably the 4 range which is fair and Florida could easily do that with minimal changes to their roster. Lots of pending UFA's that are not going to resign. They have cap space.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 20 at 12:49 p.m.
Thread:
Sell sell sell
Value on the Barron trade is probably fair but the Habs aren't a team looking for more prospect depth and picks. They'd probably want to use Barron as part in a bigger trade to get an established higher end asset.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 20 at 12:46 p.m.
Thread:
Does Florida match this offer sheet
I don't think Lundell would be enticed enough to leave the powerhouse team for a perennial lottery team frankly. Unless he's being snubbed on ice time and being lowballed on his next offer, Im pretty sure he'll take less now to make more later and play in more important games. Its not like he'll get #1 center minutes in MTL. Heck he may not even get 2nd line center minutes depending on how well Dach plays.
If Bergevin taught us anything is that its that OS have to make sense and this one doesn't IMO.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 20 at 12:40 p.m.
Thread:
Rossi trade thought
Regardless of value here, it comes down to Dubas either retooling or rebuilding. If they are just retooling than I could at least see the logic. If they are rebuilding, then I can't see it. Rossi is having a great year no doubt but IMHO doesn't hold this value.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 20 at 12:35 p.m.
Thread:
Honest Thoughts
I don't see the point exactly. EDM's issue is not finding a good goalie to replace Campbell. Its cap space. They have their goalie they've hitched too now in Skinner and Pickard is at least doing an admirable job as backup.
EDM's need is cap space and their best option is a Campbell buyout. Not double down on a high risk/reward when they have the position solidified enough to be a contender already.
CLB would make <em>some</em> sense hoping for a hail mary that Campbell comes back to form but even if he didn't, they're at the very least getting some cap relief and can simply buy out Campbell for a cheaper cap penalty also. Small gains here but gains none the less.
I think CLB and EDM are destined to either BO both guys. I know cap penalties seem like poor asset management but sometimes you got to bite the bullet. Sometimes buyouts are justified and the right thing to do. EDM should absolutely buyout Campbell. CLB should only buy out Elvis if they find a better option. If not they're better suited to keep him in the hopes of him finding his game again. They do need someone to play goalie. Might as well be the guy they're paying out the nose to.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 20 at 12:18 p.m.
Thread:
A kurashev trade from my perspecitve
I'd think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone outside of CHI valuing Kurashev like this.
Regardless, I would think teams would need at the very least another year of repeated success to at least stay at the negotiating table for something like this.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 19 at 1:31 p.m.
Thread:
Gallagher
Honestly, it would make more sense simply to buy Gallagher out. The loss of positive assets, the retention slot for 3 more years and the dead cap outweigh the extra 3 years of dead cap from a buy out IMO.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 19 at 1:28 p.m.
Thread:
Which is a bigger risk
Whose a bigger risk? Pff ...who knows...... No way of knowing and its simply guessing at this point. I doubt either team wants to take that risk and would rather just stick with what they know.
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Mar. 19 at 1:25 p.m.
Thread:
Massive trade at the Draft
I think trading up at a premium anywhere between and within 2nd and 10th, is a bad idea. You are not necessarily getting the better player here, simply getting a guy you like <em>better.</em> IMHO That's a bad move from the get go. if the cost was somewhat cheap, then fine but not at a premium.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 19 at 1:19 p.m.
Thread:
Players Id want
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_need_Scoring</b></div><div>Fully agree i think he could still develop into a decent dman, but I think philly could pry him from mtl for a little cheaper, then they wouldve been able to last year..But 100% he is a victim of the deep prospect pool the habs have on d.</div></div>
Yeah and Im assuming there is no protection on the pick which makes it an easy decline. They'd have to know better where that lands for this type of deal to even be considered. Just for fun though, if we had a crystal ball and that pick was 100% the 32nd OV pick, i think that is probably a fair price then. Less than 30th though, probably too high then.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 19 at 1:14 p.m.
Thread:
Wadejos123s Interesting Proposal
I wouldn't do it. I would much rather take BPA and if that is a dman, trade a lesser dman prospect in the system for offensive help if necessary.
People need to realize the Habs may not even have a true #1 D prospect in the system right now. Hutson due to his size is more than likely a very good #3-4 at best. Reinbacher's offensive game is a mystery which probably means he's #2 at best. Guhle, Mailloux, solid but no superstars there. Etc etc....
If the Habs have the chance to grab a future #1 calibre dman in this draft, they should absolutely do it. Simply trade 1 of Guhle or Huston or Reinbacher, etc etc for offensive help instead.
I like Lindstrom as much as the next guy but he's not elite enough to be sacrificing a ton simply to get a chance to see if he becomes a star. He could end up being a solid 50-60 point forward also. Imagine if then the dman like Parekh is a 70-80 point scorer? Kind of defeats the purpose of trading up for Lindstrom....
The value of the deal is probably fair though. I just wouldn't do it in this draft. IMHO Picks 2-10 are all evenly talented and could each be studs in their own right.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 19 at 1:01 p.m.
Thread:
Players Id want
Got to think the Habs would accept this just on the premise of good value and the team already having a surplus of young dmen.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_need_Scoring</b></div><div>if i'm the flyers i'm looking at offering a 2nd with a 5th or 6th for barron instead of losing a 1st. Barron has had opportunities to crack the roster but hasnt been able to make the case to be an everyday payer in MTL so i'm not sure it would take a first to land him now.</div></div>
I sort of agree on the value standpoint but also think you may be judging him a bit harshly too. Its not every day that a team has like 4-5 under 23 yo NHL ready dmen all competing for the last couple spots on a team. He's showed he's more than capable at the NHL but ppl have to be reminded that he is also still young too. He's susceptible to brain farts but most 22 yo dmen are. I think we judge him harsher simply based on the fact we have a plethora of other options. That doesn't mean he wouldn't be an everyday dman on another team with less depth. Habs have an abnormal amount of young depth at this level that they can afford to not be as patient.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 19 at 12:49 p.m.
Thread:
UFA frenzy dilemma
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>It might be time to accept that Dach isn't going to be a center but instead a big winger and bring in a 2C like Lindholm.</div></div>
How does his limited playing time this season show that exactly? In the limited time he had to show he was a center this year and last, he's been great..... I think making a judgement call now does make any sense. If its simply based on his injury history, well that's where a really good 3C is absolutely necessary. Either way, that certainly hasn't decided anything about his effectiveness at center. Habs aren't contending so they'll follow the process with him at center to its conclusion which isn't after like 30 games at center on the team.
With that said, I'd be ok adding Lindholm as a safety net who also can either play the center if Dach falters or the wing if he doesn't. Never hurts to have two centers on the same line IMHO.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 19 at 12:50 a.m.
Thread:
UFA frenzy dilemma
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ht42</b></div><div>I really think Montreal will gonna get rid of Dvorack to bring back Monahan for their 3rd line centerman.
Also, they can also make the big shot with Stamkos. They likely gonna target a free agent who can bring somes leadership for the team on a short time. Also, Stamkos have already a solid natural fit with St-Louis and Lecavalier, and also a close childhood friend who can convince him to sign with the Habs is PK Subban...........
Another bold prediction : I think they will try to keep Primeau, but I think that they will not gonna be sure about his real potential futhermore. I think a team like the Flyers (who will gonna need a 2nd goalie next season) can be very interrested on him. That's bring me the quote that the Habs can decide to sign Fleury for a final season of his career for becoming the back-up of Montembeault (and that's can help Monty A LOT for his confidence).</div></div>
I would not be mad if the Habs went after Monahan at this price BUT I do think they should make a concerted effort to get someone for the top 6 more, even at the cost of overpaying, than adding to the bottom 6. Honestly I'm all for overpaying on shorter term contracts right now. If Marchessault or Stamkos want 11M for 2 years, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 19 at 12:44 a.m.
Thread:
UFA frenzy dilemma
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Teravainen and Marchessault would seem to me to be the best forward fits, but I have no idea what they would sign for. (The former looks low and the latter looks high.) Pesce is the best defensive signing and I think that you have his numbers right.</div></div>
Its anyone guess but my thinking was if Marchessault entertained coming to MTL, it had to be quite a lucrative offer. I doubt many teams could offer higher than this on 4 years. For Turbo, I looked at his injury history and figured he'd want a longer term contract over cashing in as high as possible on a shorter one for some cost certainty. So I brought the AAV down a little but made the deal go into his late 30's to compensate.
Also keep in mind, some of these are inflated on purpose for the "MTL tax". No one in their right mind should be giving Stamkos 10M a year at his age but I think what he still has to offer would be worth overpaying for if I were MTL.
Pesce may be one that Im undervaluing if Im being honest. With the RHD shortage on the market, their will be a bidding war. I think a serious team may have to go 7x7 frankly. MTL especially due to the forementioned "MTL tax".
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 19 at 12:34 a.m.
Thread:
Roster improvements
I'd be ok with this ONLY if it was at the TDL next season and no other deals yielded a better offer with retention for other players on the team such as Savard, Dvorak, Armia etc.. Unfortunately the Habs only have a single retention slot available so they have to make it count and there simply is no rush to move JA out with 50% retention for 3 more years as of this off season. By the TDL we'd have way more info on who'd be the best to move with last retention spot. Making the gamble now is an unnecessary one.
If it were next off season though? I'd accept in a heartbeat. We'd have 3 full retention slots again.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>It was a first but some retention, wich was the reason he refused</div></div>
Actually we don't even know. That's the problem. The "rumor" was intentionally vague. All it said was a team had been rumored to offer in a deal a 1st for Anderson and Hughes declined. There was no mention of what the amount of retention was or even if there were other negative assets added to the deal potentially. I don't think the amount of retention is even an issue for KH. It was simply losing a retention spot for 4 years while knowing there were a ton of other pending UFA players that would have needed to be moved before JA's contract was up that held it up.
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