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Apr 25, 2018
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JayTea</b></div><div>Here's the thing from my perspective: if Greenway finally shows some consistency, they're not taking Kerfoot over him and if he doesn't, Seattle can have him. Soucy was good (but not great) in a top 4 role, but not anything they absolutely need with Addison and Menell (who I think will be back if he's good in the KHL) under team control. Talbot? His contract was bad before the ink dried, so we're lucky if they take him.
I'd rather the Wild get whatever futures for Bonino to give them more draft currency to use or add to a package to trade for a 1C. He's a proven 3C on a Cup winning team, that will have value at the deadline.</div></div>
I'm curious where Kaprizov will fit in the lineup, because as far as Greenway goes, I could see him being pigeon-holed into 3LW role next season if Kap or Fiala are on the left side. Not sure what that will do to his value, but I think I'd like to hang onto him. I agree Soucy isn't a top-4 defenseman. I think a lot of people overvalue how the Brodin-Soucy pair played with such a small sample size. I actually don't mind the Talbot signing, however I would've prefer like $3Mx2 rather than what he was given. Thinking Guerin maybe overpaid him so he can protect Kahk and Seattle won't select Talbot.
I guess I'm starting to think our window could open in 2-3 years. I look down the road and if Kaprizov is as good as advertised, Rossi develops into a top-6 center, Boldy can transition just decently from college and we're able to sign a guy like Danault, for example, we could be working with:
Greenway - Rossi/Danualt - Fiala
Parise - Rossi/Danault - Kaprizov
Boldy - Ek - Zuccarello
Foligno - Sturm/drafted C - Hartman?
Suter - Spurgeon
Brodin - Dumba
Scratched: Beckman?, Menell
Looking at that, it'd be nice to hold onto most of those guys I don't want to lose. I just think a 2nd rounder we could draft thanks to a possible Bonino trade could be as many as 4-5 years away. Maybe I'm too optimistic about when we'll be ready to compete, though.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JayTea</b></div><div>What does that have to do with anything...?
They likely protect:
For goalie, ideally they protect Kahkonen but who knows how well Talbot will do playing behind a good defense.
Greenway, Rask, Hartman, Soucy, and (ideally) Talbot get exposed.</div></div>
That's exactly what I'd expect/prefer too. But in swapping Bonino for Kerfoot, we can play Kerfoot in the top-6, hope his numbers go back to where they were when he was in Colorado, then leave him exposed in the expansion draft (with the small advantage of him being under contract, helping fulfill the E.D. requirements without needing to use Rask then) with the belief Seattle will select him instead of Greenway, Soucy, Talbot (or Kahk). I'd gladly miss out on the potential late 2nd round pick we could maybe get for Bonino at the deadline if that means we don't lose any of the aforementioned players that could be more important to our future. This isn't "I want Kerfoot so we don't need Rask," this is "try to use Kerfoot to save players I'd prefer the Wild to keep."
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wabit</b></div><div> Hartman and Greenway already meet the expansion draft requirements, so there only needs to be one more. You can get that as part of a trade for one of the rentals, by playing Rask/Strum on the 4th line normally, or hoping Zucc/Parise will waive the NMC (unlikely).
I'm wondering if the expansion draft games played number will get lowered because of the COVID. Roughly 10 games per team were lost last year and no clue how many will be lost this year.
Bonino shouldn't be re-signed (unless it's a sweetheart short deal for the club), trade or let him walk away after the season. The same goes for MarJo and Bjugstad. Take their combined $10m and use a chuck of it to get a real top-6 center for the 21-22 season.
Kerfoot is nowhere near a 1C. He's an o-zone 3C, nothing more. His o-zone (compare their 24/25 season even strength) abilities are on-par with Haula, but he has nowhere near the same d-zone game as Haula had.</div></div>
I don't get what your point about Hartman is since he doesn't help meet the requirements of having two under contract players if we're talking about demoting Rask to the AHL in this situation, but I agree Mojo, Bjugstad, Bonino, Hunt, and Pateryn (if healthy) should be shipped if we get offers.
That is a good point about covid and the expansion draft requirements, would be nice if that was lowered, especially with the prospect of a shortened season.
As far as Kerfoot and a true 1C go, I'm aware Kerfoot isn't one. He's maybe a bottom tier 2C at best. This trade is a gamble with the hope of him overperforming next to Fiala and whoever joins them on that line (like R. Strome from playing with Panarin) and catching the eye of Seattle to be taken. If that doesn't work out, I wouldn't call it the end of the world, because the only centers hitting UFA that catch my eye are Nugent-Hopkins and Danault, but I don't see Edmonton letting Nuge walk. I do have another post where I sign Danault, though. He's an option but I don't think he's going to lead us to a Stanley Cup as 1C...