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Forum: NHL SigningsSep. 6, 2023 at 9:48 p.m.

Thread: Ottawa Senators signed Jake Sanderson (8 Years / $8,050,000 AAV)

Idk about this one

This either will work out great or blow up in their face

I feel a bridge may have been better as he probs would end up making this amount anyways afterwards or heck maybe less

Forum: NHL SigningsSep. 6, 2023 at 9:44 p.m.

Thread: Ottawa Senators signed Jake Sanderson (8 Years / $8,050,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hii</b></div><div>It’s per the course but he was also the best defensemen on the Sens last season and will win a Norris if his offence picks up, he’s two-way play is that good.</div></div>

Lets not get ahead of ourselves here

Forum: NHL SigningsSep. 6, 2023 at 9:44 p.m.

Thread: Ottawa Senators signed Jake Sanderson (8 Years / $8,050,000 AAV)

Dorion pullling a Ophrah managing this teams cap... YOU GET 8 MILLION DOLLLAS.... YOU GET 8 MILLION DOLLLAS.... YOU GET 8 MILLION DOLLLAS.... YOU GET 8 MILLION DOLLLAS.... YOU GET 8 MILLION DOLLLAS

Forum: NHL SigningsSep. 6, 2023 at 9:39 p.m.

Thread: Ottawa Senators signed Jake Sanderson (8 Years / $8,050,000 AAV)

I can't be the only one who thinks this is a lot after just 77 NHL games

Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 4, 2023 at 12:18 p.m.

Thread: Washington Capitals signed Tom Wilson (7 Years / $6,500,000 AAV)

I voted no for the 7 years but here's the thing: players like Wilson don't grow on trees. He's a big, skilled power forward who brings character and leadership and can bully and intimidate other teams which is something not many NHL players can do in this era.

It's likely going to age poorly because of his injury history but the Caps are going to have a lot of cap space in the near future. Let's face facts: every team in the league would love to have a Tom Wilson on their team, especially after seeing how Vegas steamrolled their way to a Stanley Cup.

Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 4, 2023 at 11:56 a.m.

Thread: Washington Capitals signed Tom Wilson (7 Years / $6,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RawDeal</b></div><div>I really like Wilson, but Wow, those signing bonuses! Without those I would 'consider' voting yes.</div></div>

Its the length. Look at the way he plays (and I'm sure I'd love him if he were on my team for that way). Do you really think it is likely he keeps it up for that many years into his mid 30s?

Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 4, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.

Thread: Washington Capitals signed Tom Wilson (7 Years / $6,500,000 AAV)

This seems like a terrrrrrrible contract. While I see Caps fans points that some other GM would be dumb enough to overpay for a power forward at 30, can GM's not see that power forwards don't age well.

Dude is an absolute beast and intimidating as heck. But he has cracked 50 points once in his entire career. Many will point out, but thats because he has played shorter seasons, but thats the point. Between injuries and suspensions he is missing games nearly every season. He's already had an ACL repair. This contract doesn't even start for another year. So sure if he can stay health enough to play enough games and keep up with his style of play and put up 20-25 goals and 55 points for those years while physically dominating the opposition it is a solid deal.

But does anyone really think that is likely? I for one would be surprised if he is more than a third liner who can hit by about 3-4 years from now. Plus he has to play big seasons.

This has Lucic/Clarkson/etc written allllll over it.

Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 4, 2023 at 11:09 a.m.

Thread: Washington Capitals signed Tom Wilson (7 Years / $6,500,000 AAV)

This is bad... purely because it's too long. Wilson is going to be a Robidas island local at the end of this and it's predictable.

Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 4, 2023 at 11:03 a.m.

Thread: Washington Capitals signed Tom Wilson (7 Years / $6,500,000 AAV)

Uhhh.... have fun with that lol

Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 4, 2023 at 11:01 a.m.

Thread: Washington Capitals signed Tom Wilson (7 Years / $6,500,000 AAV)

Not really sure why this had to happen now? Quite a sizeable gamble if you ask me. His age, play style, and health are all major red flags to me. The term is what makes this a bad contract. You want to give him this extension? Fine. But it's about 4 years too long. This would scare me if I was a Caps fan.

Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 4, 2023 at 10:47 a.m.

Thread: Washington Capitals signed Tom Wilson (7 Years / $6,500,000 AAV)

WHY!?

He just came off of a major injury last season. Why would you sign him to such a long extension when you don't know if he will bounce back or not?

And it is more than 50% signing bonuses, including nearly all signing bonuses for the last two seasons, so it is buyout proof.

Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 4, 2023 at 10:43 a.m.

Thread: Washington Capitals signed Tom Wilson (7 Years / $6,500,000 AAV)

Win for the players emergency assistance fund

Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 4, 2023 at 10:39 a.m.

Thread: Washington Capitals signed Tom Wilson (7 Years / $6,500,000 AAV)

This is gonna age like milk

Forum: NHL TradesJun. 27, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.

Thread: (PHI/STL) - Hayes for 2024 6th (STL)

After all these absolute salary dumps, and cap being the most valuable thing: watch all the dumb signings in a couple days.

Get ready for
Bertuzzi who has cracked 50 points once, and can't stay healthy to get 6-8 million for term.
Compher who has cracked 35 points once, getting mid to high 5s and term
Barbashev who has cracked 50 points once and 30 points twice, to get mid to high 5s for term
Bunting to get north of 4, potentially north of 5 million who did admittedly get 63 points and 49 points in his only 2 full NHL seasons. But while I don't have with/without you stats, from my eye test/memory, he scored like a 25-30 point scorer when not with Matthews or Marner.... I'd rather have Hall for 2 years at 6, then Bunting for term at 5...

Forum: NHL TradesJun. 27, 2023 at 1:21 p.m.

Thread: (PHI/STL) - Hayes for 2024 6th (STL)

that's an expensive 6th

Forum: NHL TradesJun. 27, 2023 at 1:20 p.m.

Thread: (PHI/STL) - Hayes for 2024 6th (STL)

I get it it's a cap dump, but only a 6th? I figured the Flyers might be able to get a bit more than that for Hayes 50% retained.

Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 26, 2023 at 8:39 p.m.

Thread: New York Rangers signed Ben Harpur (2 Years / $787,500 AAV)

Yeah I mean, had some good albums. Pretty cool to see him pivot to pro hockey considering his age.

It’s a signing.

Forum: NHL SigningsOct. 4, 2022 at 12:41 p.m.

Thread: New York Islanders signed Mathew Barzal (8 Years / $9,150,000 AAV)

ouch...you wonder how he'll be this year but thats a bit much for a guy who has never been amazing

Forum: NHL SigningsOct. 4, 2022 at 12:41 p.m.

Thread: New York Islanders signed Mathew Barzal (8 Years / $9,150,000 AAV)

Nothing against Barzal but yikes, big overpay in my opinion.

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 12, 2022 at 11:49 a.m.

Thread: Pittsburgh Penguins signed Rickard Rakell (6 Years / $5,000,000 AAV)

Seems like too little production for too much money for too long a term.

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 12, 2022 at 1:19 a.m.

Thread: Pittsburgh Penguins signed Rickard Rakell (6 Years / $5,000,000 AAV)

The Pens strategy is confusing to me: The Letang and Rakell contracts scream "We're all in for 3 years then when Sid is done we're okay with being terrible." That's fine, but if that's the case, why are you lowballing Geno and refusing to give him 4 years? Odd

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 12, 2022 at 1:18 a.m.

Thread: Pittsburgh Penguins signed Rickard Rakell (6 Years / $5,000,000 AAV)

I’m sorry, but with this signing, you now have 10 million dollars remaining, you still need some depth forwards, and you still need to sign Kasperi Kapanen with Malkin looking at his options, reminder that Kapanen had his rights in Europe traded this season for Linden Vey or something….

Have fun Pens

Also 5M for a 41 point scorer? This feels like a signing for the “idea” of a consistent goal scorer, 6 years too.

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 12, 2022 at 1:13 a.m.

Thread: Pittsburgh Penguins signed Rickard Rakell (6 Years / $5,000,000 AAV)

Wow. That's a lot of money and term for the numbers Rakell has put up.

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 12, 2022 at 1:13 a.m.

Thread: Pittsburgh Penguins signed Rickard Rakell (6 Years / $5,000,000 AAV)

"How many years do you wanna pretend that you're still competing?"

pens brass:

<img class="for_img" src="https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/031/727/cover10.jpg" alt="cover10.jpg">

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 7, 2022 at 12:45 p.m.

Thread: Pittsburgh Penguins signed Kris Letang (6 Years / $6,100,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>This is going to age very badly.</div></div>

Adding onto this point: if this contract was signed with the intention of him not playing out the full six years (ie going on LITR and becoming a trading asset), that sounds a lot like cap circumvention.

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