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Forum: Armchair-GM15 hours ago
Thread: Yall cant and yall wont unless something changes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pens3lieve</b></div><div>I agree... I knew that contract was mistake the second it was signed...
but who would he waive for tho lol?</div></div>

It's funny because for four years, a good portion of the fanbase argued that that money they spent on him couldn't have been used more productively. Now some of them want the team to reorganize the cap structure and get the team more depth...

Tavares is an outstanding player and has been for the Leafs his entire time there. But he's an $11 million 2C who might be in decline and hasn't pushed them over the edge in the playoffs (2021 aside). To an outsider, it doesn't seem like this is working anymore. His NMC and bad PR probably prevents it, but that's the easiest way to real and potentially positive change in Toronto I think....
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 28 at 12:52 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 20 at 3:17 p.m.
Thread: Whats The Play Here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Benzino204</b></div><div>I don't think Martinez is a fit. They have a solid top 4 when they resign Dobson, and they have cheaper decent guys like Salo for their bottom pairing.</div></div>

I think Salo will be a #7 this season and get some significant playing time when injuries inevitably occur. Then in 23-24, he'll be a regular and probably playing better than his role would suggest, if all goes right. Could be a very valuable development path for us. Based on his performance this season, I'm not sure a full-time role in the NHL next season is where he's at yet. He definitely showed flashes and I think he's gonna be a NHLer, but he's not quite there yet. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think we'll get two NHL d-men this offseason and he'll get pushed out, at least for 22-23.

As for the rest of them, 3, 6 and 8 are all excellent, but if we don't get a legit lefthanded 2nd pairing guy to play with Dobson, I really think we're going to struggle. Greene has had his moments, but he's not what he once was and Chara is an unmitigated disaster. Need more stability in such an important spot. I've said before, I think there are better options than Martinez and I think getting our money in order could be a struggle in 23-24 with him on our books. But he's a good player and we could do (and have done) much worse at 2LD since we gave Devon Toews away
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 20 at 3:05 p.m.
Thread: Whats The Play Here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>Ultimately, and maybe Vegas fans will disagree but:

the Eichel trade continues to give and give and give....

I dont think most thought beyond the immediate trade cost of Krebs, picks and Tuch, but the fact was that VGS did not and will not have the cap space. So the actual trade cost is Krebs, picks, Tuch, sitting Smith or Dandanov AND the inability to resign any of the UFAs and struggle to sign the RFAs. The trade cost them pretty much all their depth and has put them in a corner with an aging NTC forward corps.

It wasnt that long ago that fans were amazed that VGS was able to crow bar in Pietrangelo, but the mgmt continued to move prospects and picks to compete now and "now" seems to be over already.

All the big contract forwards have NMC/NTC which makes things difficult, but I would expect that VGS will have to give up Martinez and another piece for almost nothing. When Kiefer Bellows and Brassard are on your 3rd line, you're in trouble.</div></div>

Agreed with everything until the last paragraph, Kieffer Bellows slander isn't tolerated here
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