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Forum: Fauteuil - DGFeb. 4 at 9:57 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 3 at 3:43 p.m.
Thread: Completing the top 6
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fran615</b></div><div>Habs decline.

Too much.

And don't lump everyone in the same boat.
The Athletic mentioned Zegras to Montreal;
Darren Dreger mentioned Zegras to Montreal;
Pierre Lebrun mentioned Zegras to Montreal.

This site is for proposals meat head

(And another add to the blocked-ignore list, where meat heads belong)</div></div>

Your reaction is fair. Just want to try to give some explanation for OldNYI where he probably could’ve been more measured in his response, which is that there are an insane number of Harris for Z proposals. And a very quick bit of research into ANA (or review of feedback on any of those proposals) will highlight a very real logjam at LD with Fowler, Mintyukov, Zellweger, Lacombe, Vaakanainen, Hinds, Dionicio.

He should’ve had a more patient reply for sure, but we aren’t perfect. All the best to you
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 2 at 5:38 p.m.
Thread: DNVR Trade Deadline - Casey Come on Down
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fran615</b></div><div>Maybe a 3rd, and a 2nd is outrageous?

I mean... you can say you disagree with a 2nd - and it's true, it seems like a stretch - but for being outrageous.
Monahan got a 1st as a cap dump for one season.
Marleau too.

It's not 'unheard of'.

But I get you - I wouldnt do a 2nd too for Colorado. But sometimes, under the pressure of something else brewing, some GMs need to act quick.

Cheers buddy</div></div>

RyJo is still on pace for over 18 goals, Monahan was hurt and hasn’t scored 18 since 19-20 and CGY was trying to create cap space to try and keep Tkachuk, COL is in no rush to create cap space, and if they do it in the off season there will be a number of teams that will roll the dice on a guy like Johansen who at the very least has been healthy. Marleau who knows why TOR did that.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 2 at 3:05 p.m.
Thread: Savard Tanev Laughton Maroon
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>I personally don't believe Savard is worth a 1st. I expect his value to be closer to a 2nd.

So late 1st + Timmins (call him a 5th in value) for a late 2nd (it's Colorado's) and Savard. Big difference between a late 1st and late 2nd.

But I could very well be wrong in terms of Savards value. What do you think he is worth?</div></div>

I'm skeptical that Savard is worth a first. Maybe with retention. The bigger issue for Montreal is if moving up 20-30 spots in the draft is worth moving your only experienced RD, a veteran presence and guy you can throw to the wolves AND use a retention spot for this year and next. The answer is probably not. A 1st (or close enough) is probably what it would take for the effort to be worth moving him.

Timmins is a throw in that Montreal doesn't need.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 2 at 1:38 p.m.
Thread: How many of you said MoNaHaN iS nOt WoRtH a FiRsT
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>i think most of us are still saying he's not worth a first. getting a first doesn't mean he's worth a first. was Dvorak worth a first and a third?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>Monahan isn't worth a 1st based on injuries alone, and yet the Habs still got a first for him. Instead of vehemently defending Monahan, you guys should be praising your front office. This was a great deal</div></div>

No matter if he really is worth or not, fact is that everyone that did Monahan vs 1st proposals where right, and everyone complaining about it were wrong.
It is always the same, players are overpaid at TDL, and much capfriendly users don't understand that.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 2 at 1:04 p.m.
Thread: Will some people own up to their own criticism
I said myself a 2nd and a prospect is the range for most of the players towards the top of the trade boards - including Monahan. Have a good weekend.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fran615</b></div><div>The first 2 are not what I'm talking about. Monahan alone traded for Kappo and a 1st. That's not what these are.

The last one, I agree it's a bit much. There's no Kappo and a 1st as well. But I won't defend that one for sure.
That is an extremely rare occurence. I haven't seen anything like that one... so I agree with you. In every fanbases, there are outliers.
I was people offering a 5th round pick for Monahan.... with retention and a 3rd going back. And they defended it.

But in any case, look at the ACGM thread I posted yesterday: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4861727

The overwhelming majority of Habs fans had Monahan going for either a 1st, or a 2nd+prospect. Can you agree on that?

And I will agree on the fact that some other non-Habs fans also had Monahan going for a 1st; I saw a good portion of it.

I dont want to pick a fight here again haha</div></div>