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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 27 at 5:47 a.m.
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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 27 at 12:44 a.m.
Thread: Post Cup Run
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>batman</b></div><div>Is it really too much? The first is almost like a 2nd. The odds of you drafting someone impactful are extremely low.

Kakko is having another rough season. He’s 23. I know some players take time to break out but might just trade him now before he turns 24 and his value is at an all time low. Lafreniere has been capable of stepping up but Kakko.. He was drafted 5 drafts ago.

Othmann is looking like more of a 3rd liner than anything else. Very mid prospect despite being a first rounder.</div></div>

Still, you're giving a 1st+ for Vatrano, who's not exactly a top 6 F himself. A 1st + Othmann should be more than enough, and like Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan pointed out, is probably not something Drury would be willing to do anyways. Vatrano is also on an expiring deal, so I doubt anyone is giving a 1st for him, which is probably fine by Verbeek.

If Dury made the proposed trade and Kakko turns it around with a change of scenery, Drury would likely never end up as a GM again when he gets fired. I honestly think you guys end up losing Lindgren, so if they can trade Lindgren + Kakko for a top 6 F, and then try replacing Lindgren via FA with a 4M guy that could be an option. Could also be Lindgren for the picks. Maybe they could keep Lindgren too and add someone like Konency with retention for Kakko + some picks. Kakko for a different RFA in a 1-for-1 or 1-for-2 like Rossi or Robertson for example might be an option too. Quite a few guys in his draft class that can use a change of scenery or need a better chance at an opportunity (NY isn't the place). Trading him for a 1st RD pick at the draft might be another option but you probably don't want to make an ACGM suggesting that.

Maybe try a take two without buying out Goodrow and signing Lindgren for 5M, Schneider 2.5Mx1 or a 3M+ 2/3 deal, and see who you could possibly add by trading Kakko. Do need to keep in mind that Lafreniere, Shesterkin, Miller, and possibly Schneider will need raises next year.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 27 at 12:21 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PantsOffnJacket</b></div><div>Im not saying they don't make attempts at getting a top UFA, but that doesn't work out for most teams each year. A player like karlsson would fill the PP1 need they clearly have , along with 20-24mins a night. Yes 10M is a premium aav but he's still capable of filling that with his ability.

Husso has ties to berube, played well under him and while you could get a UFA goalie for cheaper aav , I believe husso could surprise and show he's a starter in the right scenario. Getting that at a cost this low doesn't come along often. (Detroit will likely push for ullmark, markstrom etc I believe and so husso will be available for lower cost)

And I can agree edmundson would be the easier way to go but I see forbort as being much more capable and potentially filling the 2LD spot (over graves here)</div></div>

Having a better option than Rielly on PP1 is an insignificant need compared to their rest. You're not replacing Marner with a top 6F too, so the PP is either the same at best but likely weaker. There is no bottom 6F that is a PK specialist being added to replace Marner. They are better off just keeping Rielly there or even playing Timmins who has had success on the PP, not sure why they didn't play him more last year after he returned from injury. If not Timmins, then they could try signing someone like Gustafsson in free agency.

Husso could be a great pick up, but again, can't ignore the cap implications either.

If Graves cannot be relied as a top 4D, what sense is there in taking on the additional 4.1M in that Marner-Karlsson trade?

In terms of cap, you're paying a lot for Karlsson, Husso, and in your opinion Graves as well. That's a lot of wasted cap, that could be used to add a significant player. The Leafs might not be able to land Pesce but I think if Zadorov is available, they will. Either guy will get overpaid but in comparison to what you have here, they would be less overspending. You kind of fell into the trap of trying to do too much via trade, almost the polar opposite of the ACGMs you are critiquing, except that you aren't trying to get all the big names on the market.

If they fail to get any UFA D of significance in FA, then the next step would be to try taking a flyer on someone and more or less run it back. They would then have to hold out hope that they could find something on the trade market, that's probably when they will know what they'll look for in a Marner trade.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 26 at 10:56 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PantsOffnJacket</b></div><div>A goal here was to have a more "realistic" outlook on the building of the team, in terms of not going out and pretending like you can sign 6 of the best UFA guys.

Rather have to use some trades to bring in guys, and the UFAs you do sign are of the character/task filling capacity type players.</div></div>

I agree with the overall message, except that there's no reason for them not to try adding one or two significant pieces via FA, but I'm not a fan of the trades.

Makes more sense for the Leafs to sign a UFA RHD that will be on the blueline for the rest of his prime like Pesce or a LHD that fits the mould of the type of Dmen that Treliving and Berube want like Zadorov. While Karlsson's skill set could be used, he's not filling a major need, and at 10M, it's an easy pass, paying the 2M on top to re-sign Marner makes a whole lot more sense since he's the more useful player overall (higher production, relied upon defensively, utilized on the PK). If traded, Marner is probably bringing back one, not two Dmen to play in the top 4 and not for more cap.

Husso at full cap doesn't make sense when the Leafs could sign cheaper options at half the price or less (worst case two two-thirds) or acquire someone like Gustavsson. Not sure that Treliving would be interested, but any GM that has an interest in Husso would probably want him at 3-3.5M and Yzerman would probably want something of value.

Signing Edmundson over Forbert, for the sake of not making a lot of unnecessary changes, probably makes more sense. He played well with the Leafs and is familiar with Berube.
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