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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2019 at 4:00 p.m.
Thread: Offer sheet Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hanson493</b></div><div>lol i know there are ways to manipulate the cap, but you are going to roll 20 players all year? what happens when anderson is hurt for 9 games, cant call up a backup goalie. what happens if a guy like kapanen gets injured for 9 games. cant call up a right winger. you can get somewhat tricky with the cap, especially where hyman and dermott start on ltir. but to come out and say they have 11.1m in space without a full roster isnt it my man. they have to move someone out to fill the roster.</div></div>

That is the space with a full roster. I'm not saying they wouldn't need to make room, but they wouldn't need to move a $6M player, which is what gregb567 said was necessary. Also, I was quoting gregb567, not you, so I don't know why you started by saying "i know there are ways to manipulate the cap". You know that, sure, but gregb567 didn't
Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 6, 2019 at 10:45 a.m.
Thread: Vancouver Canucks signed Josh Leivo (1 Year / $1,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drewjenks</b></div><div>
<strong>Random Examples:</strong>

$700,000 = JASON SPEZZA / C
$700,000 = KEN AGOSTINO / LW
$725,000 = BRIAN GIBBONS / C
$750,000 = NICK SHORE / C
$775,000 = BRANDON PIRRI / LW
$800,000 = TYLER ENNIS / LW
$1,000,000 = BRETT RITCHIE / RW
$1,000,000 = NICK COUSINS / C</div></div>

Leivo hasn't played in the AHL since 3 seasons ago, he was just ignored by TO and scratched all the time

Spezza is 10 years older than him and could fall apart at the drop of a hat. Despite that, he likely only took the league min contract because he wants to be in TO. He may have been offered more and took a discount. He's made his money, he doesn't need to worry about that. Money is still important for Leivo

Agostino actually DID play in the AHL last year. In the NHL he had 6 goals (23 points) and Leivo had 14 goals (24 points). Goals are more expensive than assists, and Leivo shows potential to be a 20 goal scorer, Agostino does not

Gibbons is about the same as Agostino

Shore didn't play in the NHL last year, he was in the KHL

Pirri and Ennis I think are good contracts, and either could have been a bit more. Still, players get paid less when they were in the minors for part of the PY (Pirri). I was surprised Ennis didn't command a bit more, but maybe its because all of minutes last year were 4th line mins

Cousins is a slightly better contract than the Agostino and Gibbons contracts but he's not a goal scorer either
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 21, 2019 at 3:16 p.m.
Thread: Bye Mitch hello Laine
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I think the logic is flawed when you say the Leafs HAVE to trade Marner now because of the extension of Leafs in the future. Certainly Muzzin doesn't have to be extended and who know how good/what cap will be for Liljegren and others.
Having too many good players isn't bad. You can always trade someone for assets.

The Gaborik trade works if. Ottawa is paying out of pocket for at least some of LTIR. Leafs would still have to add a sweetener. Oilers might like that trade but you have to like Zaitsev for 5 years. Maybe just forget Puji and have Bracco, Korshov or Marchand on wing.</div></div>

What I mean is less about Marner, and more about salary in general. I don't think it works to have that much cash tied up in the top 6. You're right that they don't need to keep Muzzin, but the reality is that they need to pay their top4 defense. So if it isn't Muzzin, it will have to be some other Top4 D in the league who would want at least $4M+. Reilly is a big one, he might double his salary. Dermott is at least going up to $3M if he plays out this year as a top4 D

You're definitely right about Lijegren and Sandin, but I assume that they will at the very least cost more than their ELCs