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Trade Machine Proposals
May 12, 2021 at 11:52 p.m.
Thread:
Is this okay sabre fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>reelkena</b></div><div>tis be a joke sir</div></div>
Understand that Drury isn't the one pulling the plug on this trade as being reported if the Rangers do make a move for Eichel as the ownership wants Eichel and to change to a win now mode. Rangers Ownership are said to be willing to bend over backwards to land Eichel. If that is the case Buffalo should be able to land a good amount of pieces in return while moving out bad contracts or players that simple don't want to play for them.
I agree that Skinner might be a bit much unless salary is retained .....
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Trade Machine Proposals
May 12, 2021 at 11:43 p.m.
Thread:
How far off is this from working for BUF
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drmantalban</b></div><div>Regarding BUF, that's fair. That's the side of this equation I struggled with most. I'd agree that it needs workshopping for BUF to consider it, but Frost is NHL ready and I included 2 1sts and a 2nd. Voracek is not worth his contract, but he's still very productive and immediately plays topline minutes for BUF. I'm not hung up on what I proposed here, since I'd agree that package to BUF ultimately gets beat by competing offers. I just wanted to explore Couturier going to MIN, while also playing around with the Eichel sweepstakes. PHI has very little incentive to move coots, unless there's major upside (blue chip D man like Seth Jones + picks, or Jack Eichel).
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quote:</div>Sorry but that's just not at all correct. MIN does not need a depth defender, and more importantly, they have an enormous need for a 1C. 1C is a MONUMENTAL requirement for MIN right now and the foreseeable future. Victor Rask is currently the 1st line center, a guy that's a healthy scratch on most teams. Finding a top line center is probably one of the highest priorities in MIN. MIN has absolutely zero interest in this trade, unless there's a 1C coming back. Plenty of proposals have them targeting Eichel, but I wanted this one to be different in going after Coots.</div>
Issue I have with this statement is the fact that you are consider Couturier, Sean as first line center, when he is clearly being paid like a second line center in Philadelphia right now. So why would Minnesota want a second line center when 1C is a MONUMENTAL requirement for MIN right now and the foreseeable future. Which I also disagree with the foreseeable future aspect since Minnesota are a year maybe two from a complete rebuild so they will require a lot more then 2C playing 1C minutes.
You also seem to miss the fact that Minnesota needs Cap space more then anything else at the moment as they cannot acquire an 1C without Cap Space.</div></div>
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Trade Machine Proposals
May 12, 2021 at 11:29 p.m.
Thread:
How far off is this from working for BUF
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>M0LSON</b></div><div>dumba will be unprotected for the draft so no reason to make this trade</div></div>
Agreed, I was simple playing what drmantalban wanted Philadelphia to get in the trade.
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Trade Machine Proposals
May 12, 2021 at 2:21 p.m.
Thread:
Too much or not enough
I would say you are close but Patrick, Nolan is damaged goods so Calgary I don't think would be interested in such a return not to mention salary cap issues in Philadelphia would require them to trade a salary; Maybe try:
Konecny, Travis
Myers, Philippe
Pick or Prospect
Calgary might have to add pick or prospect to help balance out the trade as I feel it now is a bit too much for Gaudreau, Johnny straight-up
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Trade Machine Proposals
May 12, 2021 at 2:03 p.m.
Thread:
How far off is this from working for BUF
I would say you are off by a lot here as I don't think you consider what each team actually requires; Buffalo is case an point:
Buffalo requires the following:
- Young NHL ready players (forward, defender & Tender)
- Prospects
- Draft Picks
The question becomes how much do they get of what they require as I would assume that three Young NHL ready players are min requirement with picks or prospects.
Minnesota doesn't currently have any real requirements as they are in a win now situation; if they require anything it would be cap space so prospects and picks in return for Dumba or an depth defender. So this feels like it should have been a Dumba to Philadelphia for picks and maybe Myers, Philippe. This would then force Philadelphia to trade more pieces to free up cap space themselves; if they are considering Jack also.
So here is how I think the trade would work:
Buffalo receives:
Konecny, Travis
Lindblom, Oskar
Myers, Philippe
Draft Picks and/or Prospects
Philadelphia receives as above:
Dumba, Matt
Eichel, Jack
Minnesota receives:
Draft picks ( 1st & 3rd or 4th?)
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
May 12, 2021 at 1:20 p.m.
Thread:
Eichel - Rangers
I think you are think along the right line for New York & Buffalo trade but I think Buffalo would like more in return and less draft picks.
They would be looking at players that could play now and improve the team now while still looking to build towards the future so:
Buchnevich, Pavel - is most likely added to this deal
Kakko, Kaapo - I agree
Either Shesterkin, Igor or Georgiev, Alexandar: I am leaning Shesterkin, Igor due to being an RFA
Lindgren, Ryan or Fox, Adam - as they would be looking for Defensive upgrade so one or the other maybe even both.
Prospects: (My targets) Wall, Tyler - G; Robertson, Matthew - D; Reunanen, Tarmo - D; Ronning, Ty -F; Barron, Morgan -F; Richards, Justin - F; Khodorenko, Patrick - F; Rueschhoff, Austin -F
Draft Picks: 1st, 2nd and 3rd (Buffalo 3rd fore sure comes back)
I would also assume that Buffalo will add more to remove as much as I think they can so watch for:
Eakin, Cody;
Okposo, Kyle;
Skinner, Jeff;
Miller, Colin
Picks: 3rd and later in compensation for Prospects
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Trade Machine Proposals
May 12, 2021 at 12:29 p.m.
Thread:
JT Miller for Sam Reinhart
An RFA Player for an guy that has 2yrs remaining means more is needed to make this even a conversation starter, as they would be looking for compensation for lost contract years. Maybe add a few picks like a second, a third or other pieces.
I also like to think does this actually help both teams? In this situation the trade doesn't make sense for Vancouver as they would be looking for Cap relief if they were to move the contract more then the player as he slots in as the third line center but Sam most likely is looking for a pay increase so why would Vancouver make this move?
I also don't agree with the guy above that Petterson and Huges are going to get paid as I have heard Vancouver is looking for a bridge deal on Petterson in the range of $6-7M per season with term being a question mark. While Hughes has shown he is a bit of a defensive liability this season (-25 in 54 gp) and requires more time to develop his defensive game by having shelter minutes so Vancouver is also looking at a bridge contract down around $3M and I expect Hughes contracts talks to be ugly with a good chance that they might even look at trading him if the talks don't progress.
Vancouver has an busy off season a head of them since they need Seattle to take Holtby contract $4.3M, they can finally buy out Eriksson for cap releif around $2M but also add another $1M the following season, Resign Hughes, Pettersson, Bailey, Juolevi, Rathborne and Lind while only having around $20-21M with at least two of those players looking at eating half of that Salary Cap space.
Watch for Boeser to be traded this off season as his $5.875M contract is up after next season and he will be RFA but Vancouver simply won't have the Cap space to sign him if the reports are correct that he is looking for anywhere north of $8M per season. He is also being paid $7.5M next season while is cap hit remains the same.
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Trade Machine Proposals
Feb. 22, 2020 at 9:54 p.m.
Thread:
Barrie Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>T_Hip</b></div><div>I agree. We have Hughes and Edler for offensive. Barrie is not needed. Barrie is a UFA...someone will overpay for him in the off season...hope it is not the Canucks.</div></div>
Edler is on his last legs and is likely done next season or season after so bring in Barrie at this price would be a great replacement. But I have issues with Sutter being added to the trade; while often injured and not providing huge numbers he is very good as an third line center in a shut down role. This is required for the play-off hockey and doesn't he win more then 50% in the face offs dot? This is also an underrated aspect to any players game. As it helps in the defensive zone faces offs trying to maintain a lead and clutch in offensive zone when in a close game; both situation where possession is greatly required.
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Trade Machine Proposals
Feb. 22, 2020 at 9:45 p.m.
Thread:
Get these guys a Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>reelkena</b></div><div>The burg could offer up a little more considering this would help them a ton.</div></div>
This trade wouldn't help the burg much as these players are too old and likely to sit in the presser rather then play. A bag of pucks would be better offered then the 3rd and prospect.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
Feb. 22, 2020 at 9:21 p.m.
Thread:
Wayne Simmonds to Vancouver
I would expect Vancouver to off load salary if they went after Simmonds as rental so instead of placing Eriksson back into the minors having him part of the package actually make sense. Since it becomes a dollar for dollar trade with NJD gain term on Eriksson and draft picks & prospect in return.
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Trade Machine Proposals
Feb. 22, 2020 at 9:08 p.m.
Thread:
VAN-TOR Big Trade
Expected a bigger trade to happen between these two teams should they pull the trigger but Vancouver has salary cap issues now so would look to off load some salary and I am not sure they would be looking at the rental market unless a piece coming back the other way was a player with term or prospect for the future.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 6, 2020 at 4:19 a.m.
Thread:
Martin Jones belongs in the Minors
One bad season or two doesn't determine a goalies worth but that being said could be moved to a team looking to add depth to their roster. sadly I am not sure who would be a taker as NJD would make the most sense but have already been burned by Corey; so unlikely to take the gamble. See devils making a big play for Markstrom should the Nucks look to move him at the trade deadline or right before Free Agency period.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 6, 2020 at 4:13 a.m.
Thread:
Trade for 1st overall pick
Unlikely Detroit would trade away the first but if someone else scores the lotto win then they might consider a trade depends on overall needs. It was a fair trade offer for my perspective but not with Detroit. Montreal has other needs to fill as well so not sure diving for the first would be a great move overall.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
Jan. 6, 2020 at 4:03 a.m.
Thread:
Georg to TOR
Completely unfair trade. Won't happen.
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