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Armchair-GM
Aug. 13, 2020 at 8:34 a.m.
Thread:
Deep team Proposed swaps- not mine from others here
Question from NYR fan:
How do you value Haydn Fleury and what would it cost this offseason to deal him?
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 9, 2020 at 2:57 p.m.
Thread:
Unrealistic Drip TORandCAL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Calgary loves that trades. Certainly the Rangers could do better trading Strome or Georgiev in separate trades.
The Leaf trade. Certainly it could be considered a fair trade if Trouba is a 6m player in value, not an 8m or 4m playing value. But gotta think the Leafs if they trade Nylander it would be be for cap relief to sign some "lesser" players to fill the roster not taking on Trouba and his cap.
Plus we have seen much Trouba didn't want to play in Canada, the Leafs wouldn't trade for an unhappy long term player. Don't think Trouba hated Canada but it was because his girlfriend needed to complete her medical studies in the US and Trouba's father could not freely across the border (allegedly )</div></div>
As a Leafs fan, what is it that your team is looking to add? Am I correct in saying that a Top 4 Right Handed defenseman is of value to the Leafs?
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 9, 2020 at 1:52 p.m.
Thread:
Unrealistic Drip TORandCAL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Stop with the Trouba crap to Toronto, He made it abundantly clear that he has no desire to play in Canada again. At the time he was dealt it was only Detroit and the Rangers those were to only locations he would agree to. He's not playing in Canada and Gorton wont deal him to any Canadian City.</div></div>
Ok first of all...calm down. He does not have any trade protection until the 2nd year of this contract begins therefore the Rangers could realistically trade him anywhere they want. They may have to take less for a team in Canada and Canadian teams may shy away from him but he's under contract and has no trade protection so he can be traded.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 9, 2020 at 9:17 a.m.
Thread:
Unrealistic Drip TORandCAL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>Morrissey really made Trouba look good, he has not looked like the player he was with the Jets since becoming a Ranger.
Leafs decline.</div></div>
I personally think Trouba's struggles were overblown. Was he worth 8M? No but I think there is a good chance he was playing hurt. It's also his first year in a new place and needed time to adjust to a Lindy Ruff system that many have called as the problem with the D. I believe he'll bounce back next season
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 9, 2020 at 9:15 a.m.
Thread:
Unrealistic Drip TORandCAL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Calgary loves that trades. Certainly the Rangers could do better trading Strome or Georgiev in separate trades.
The Leaf trade. Certainly it could be considered a fair trade if Trouba is a 6m player in value, not an 8m or 4m playing value. But gotta think the Leafs if they trade Nylander it would be be for cap relief to sign some "lesser" players to fill the roster not taking on Trouba and his cap.
Plus we have seen much Trouba didn't want to play in Canada, the Leafs wouldn't trade for an unhappy long term player. Don't think Trouba hated Canada but it was because his girlfriend needed to complete her medical studies in the US and Trouba's father could not freely across the border (allegedly )</div></div>
This is correct regarding not wanting to play in Canada, I did not remember the situation with his wife/girlfriend until just now so that all but eliminates a trade there. His NTC doesn't kick in until what would have been July 1st in a year where the world wasn't coming to an end so I don't know how those contract details are going to be sorted out but I'm sure it doesn't look good to trade a guy a year after having him to a place he publicly has stated he does not want to go for family reasons. I am just so hesitant to give up ADA over him.
As far as the Calgary trade, I want it for their 1st round pick instead of the 2nd along with Sam Bennett but have getting SLAUGHTERED over that so I dropped it to a 2nd if that would be more reasonable.
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Armchair-GM
May 27, 2020 at 12:00 p.m.
Thread:
Sam Bennett
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>masterjuddi</b></div><div>Change of scenery for Bennet is needed IMO. Flames aren't gonna get that value back for him right now.</div></div>
Completely agree regarding change of scenery for Bennett. I like him because a move like this reminds me of when the Rangers acquired Brassard. Former high draft pick who hadn't fully lived up to expectations but is still a decent player. Put Bennett on the 3rd line with two former 1st round picks, Gauthier (big body, fast, great hands...I think he can develop into Kreider if not better since Gauthier has better hands) and Kravtsov (so much skill, just needs to put it together over here), and I can already see the makings of a Zucc-Brass-Pouliot 2.0 type line.
I dub him as almost like a grinder. A true competitor who will simply be tough to play against, kind of like Lemieux but with a different skill set. Worst case scenario he's your 4th line center between Lemieux and Fast to form one of the best two-way 4th lines in hockey.
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Armchair-GM
May 27, 2020 at 11:51 a.m.
Thread:
Sam Bennett
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jambo</b></div><div>quinn won't buyout staal. it'll be hank or Smith or.....takes deep breath....trouba?</div></div>
I can GUARANTEE you that Trouba will not be bought out. Yes he had a disappointing season last year compared to what was expected but 1. I think he was hurt 2. Lindy Ruff SUCKS so he's the bigger problem 3. Even if you don't want him on the team, you're better off trading him this offseason before his No Trade Clause kicks in, even if you have to eat money you're at least getting something in return.
I can see them buying out Smith as opposed to Staal but think the team will value Smith's ability (albeit limited) to play both forward and D. Someone gets hurt, you don't have to call someone up, you always have an extra F/D who has experience in the NHL.
I pray they don't buyout Hank. Let him ride out the last year of his deal, split the starts in net and have him mentor Shesty. It'd be a slap in the face of one of their most iconic players. Georgiev gets traded because Shesty is the future and there are other options in the pipeline but also serviceable backups that can be signed cheap as a UFA. Georgie has trade value
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Armchair-GM
May 27, 2020 at 10:05 a.m.
Thread:
Big Game Brass
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sebybbq</b></div><div>They already have Niilson in net to fill that role until one of their many good prospect goalie are ready to take over in net. Strome haven’t shown any consistency true out is career and he will ask for big money. He have been mostly a third line center true out is career averaging decent number but nothing close to this year. Ottawa is in a rebuilt and have no interest in acquiring any of these players.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sebybbq</b></div><div>They already have Niilson in net to fill that role until one of their many good prospect goalie are ready to take over in net. Strome haven’t shown any consistency true out is career and he will ask for big money. He have been mostly a third line center true out is career averaging decent number but nothing close to this year. Ottawa is in a rebuilt and have no interest in acquiring any of these players.</div></div>
Nilsson is 30 and has never played more than 30 games in a season and hasn't posted great numbers in those starts. He's bounced around a lot as well. Is he a serviceable backup? Sure, I'll give you that but by no means is he a starter which Georgiev is looking like he has the ability to be.
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Armchair-GM
May 27, 2020 at 9:57 a.m.
Thread:
Big Game Brass
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DoubleADoubleK</b></div><div>Stick a fork in Brass, the warriors body is broken down. Short on bonus money. Where are KAM and Kravtsov playing?</div></div>
I have KAM starting in the minors since he is still a bit raw and then when he is ready he'll be up and take Jon Merrill's spot on the 3rd pair and have Merrill scratched. Kravtsov definitely is a question mark. First he needs to prove last year's chaos was an anomaly and that he can be an NHL player. Instead of trading with Ottawa then, I'd say look to do a trade with Calgary for Sam Bennett and a 1st. Gets you a young 3rd line center with upside (4th overall pick who hasn't lived up to his draft slot) and a draft pick most likely in the 15-25 range. Ottawa gets their starting goalie of the future and a middle 6 forward.
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Armchair-GM
May 26, 2020 at 8:03 a.m.
Thread:
Big Game Brass
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sebybbq</b></div><div>Ottawa have absolutely no incentive of making this trade.</div></div>
No incentive? They get a 24 year old goaltender who you can sign for cheap and instantly make the starter, a 26 year old C/W who is coming off back to back 18 goal seasons and can play 2nd or 3rd line minutes and at both ends of the ice, and a 3rd pair defenseman who's cap hit is higher than his salary. Teams like Ottawa value the money differential in guys like Smith. Not to mention he's a veteran presence in the last year of his deal so if you don't want him, they can flip him for a draft pick come next year's deadline.
That deal is in the same framework as Stepan-Raanta for DeAngelo-1st round pick. Stepan had 55 points the year before he was traded (Strome had 59 points this year at the stoppage)
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2020 at 1:47 p.m.
Thread:
Making Noise In April
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>delneggs</b></div><div>Georgiev is 24...why trade him? Hank is done after this year. Georgi and Igor will be the best goalie tandem in the NHL for many years to come and you want to trade him for a draft pick? That's crazy. We have enough draft picks already. 3 first rounders and 19 picks in the next 2 years alone. The kid is a stud in goal and his next contract is cheap to boot. He and Igor can bring a Cup or maybe multiple Cups to the garden in the near future....why in Gods name trade that away?</div></div>
I think Georgiev realizes that if he were to stay here, he's going to be the backup. Therefore even if we sign him this offseason, it won't be a crazy long term contract with a sizable (3-5M) cap it, it will be a bridge deal of 2 years that will take him directly to UFA status under 3M. At that point you lose him for nothing anyway. Rangers are not going to want to do a 3 goalie tandem for a full season. Lundqvist SHOULD NOT be bought out, that'd be a slap in the face to a legend, and he can still be an above average backup. Additionally, as was brought up by someone else, Rangers have ample goaltending prospects who could become the backup OR they can go the route the did with Hank and find guys like Raanta and Talbot.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2020 at 1:42 p.m.
Thread:
Making Noise In April
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>lamar1226</b></div><div>I think people consider this draft too stacked to give up an early draft pick. Some teams didn't even wanna give up a late one this year. But who knows?</div></div>
If not the Minnesota pick then the pick that they got from Pittsburgh in the Zucker deal but they would likely have to throw in another pick (like a 3 or 4 in next year's draft).
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 20, 2019 at 2:37 p.m.
Thread:
One trade every team - NYR
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>I think he'll still be an NHLer but expectations are no longer 1st line winger -- more likely a middle 6, powerplay specialist type of player. I still think he could improve and be a solid top 6 contributor, but he is definitely trending downward slightly each year. Hopefully that turns around</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>I think he'll still be an NHLer but expectations are no longer 1st line winger -- more likely a middle 6, powerplay specialist type of player. I still think he could improve and be a solid top 6 contributor, but he is definitely trending downward slightly each year. Hopefully that turns around</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>I think he'll still be an NHLer but expectations are no longer 1st line winger -- more likely a middle 6, powerplay specialist type of player. I still think he could improve and be a solid top 6 contributor, but he is definitely trending downward slightly each year. Hopefully that turns around</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>I think he'll still be an NHLer but expectations are no longer 1st line winger -- more likely a middle 6, powerplay specialist type of player. I still think he could improve and be a solid top 6 contributor, but he is definitely trending downward slightly each year. Hopefully that turns around</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>I think he'll still be an NHLer but expectations are no longer 1st line winger -- more likely a middle 6, powerplay specialist type of player. I still think he could improve and be a solid top 6 contributor, but he is definitely trending downward slightly each year. Hopefully that turns around</div></div>
So instead of Rem Pitlick, what do you think of:
Kreider (50% retained)
For
Tolvanen
2020 2nd round pick from NJD (becomes NSH first if Preds reach WCF)
2021 3rd round pick (becomes 1st if Kreider re-signs with NSH)
It’s the same conditions as the Mats Zuccarello trade last deadline, only with a prospect as well
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 20, 2019 at 11:48 a.m.
Thread:
One trade every team - NYR
How do Preds fans (and the organization) view Eli Tolvanen now? He was a phenom the year after his draft but I haven’t heard anything about him since.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 8, 2019 at 6:11 p.m.
Thread:
The Other Guy WPG amp CBJ
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sagecoll</b></div><div>I don't understand the value in either of these deals</div></div>
If you're referring the the Strome and Namestnikov deals I'll explain further here.
Strome: Chicago wants to pair the Ryan with his brother Dylan who were the 2 hottest players after their respective trades in the league to see if they can develop some chemistry. However, as a team that missed the playoffs last year they don't want to give up draft picks in the top few rounds so the Rangers swap picks with them in round 2 so they keep a 2nd, just move back in the round to acquire Strome.
Namestnikov: Rangers are looking to shed some salary as they plan on being big players in the UFA market so they trade back in the 2nd round to incentivize COL to take Namestnikov without having to retain salary.
Trouba: Jets likely do not re-sign Tyler Myers as they have more important free agents to sign (Laine, Copp, Connor) and Trouba has already made it clear over the past few negotiations he does not want to be there. With this trade they get 2 defensemen who's contracts will be on the shorter term so they aren't in a cap crunch again in a few years and combine to make less than it would cost to re-sign either Trouba or Myers. Howden is cost controlled and young, can play on the 3rd line as opposed to Adam Lowry who is currently the 3rd line center and making close to 3M per year. Hell if you want to include Lowry in the trade to clear up more cap space go for it and have him on the 4th line for the Rangers, or rotating on the 3rd with Andersson if he struggles.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 8, 2019 at 5:58 p.m.
Thread:
The Other Guy WPG amp CBJ
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>What part of Kevin Shattenkirk not wanting to play in Canada don't you understand? Shattenkirk trending down. Howden 3rd liner Pionk bottom pairing D man. Yeah that's not getting you Trouba. And Jacob Trouba wants to be among the highest paid Dmen in the league. Fat chance of him signing for $7.5 million per. He'll want Hedman money or higher guarantee you that. He'll get far more in free agency then he will doing a sign and trade that's for sure.</div></div>
1) When tf were there ever reports about Shattenkirk not wanting to play in Canada???
2) Shattenkirk is still a good player and only has 2 years left and plenty left in the tank. Is he the same guy he was in St. Louis? No but it's not like he's fallen off a cliff like Marc Staal and at 3.325 per year that is a steal for a guy like him. Howden has middle 6 upside, can play there immediately and take the role that Kevin Hayes was supposed to play when he was traded there. Pionk is a 2nd pair offensive-defenseman who can run the PP or be a staple on the 2nd powerplay behind Buff. Jets likely won't sign Tyler Myers. They have more important players in Laine, Copp, and Connor to sign so a young guy like Howden (still no entry level contract and can step right in) and Pionk (who likely will get a bridge contract no higher than 3M) will significantly help with their cap situation.
3) Trouba won't be the highest paid Dman in the league. He's 1 year away from UFA and simply does not want to play in Canada (maybe who you were confusing Shattenkirk with). Additionally Hedman makes 7.85 and Trouba is not Hedman. Lastly on this front, I used Evolving Wild's contract projections (link below) as a basis for my contracts here so that Trouba contract isn't too far off base.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 5, 2019 at 12:45 p.m.
Thread:
NYR CAR OTT
If Rangers were to add Shattenkirk to that deal and retain 50% (3,325,000), would you be willing to switch that first round pick to the 2nd round pick acquired from Dallas in the Zuccarello trade (#49) or the pick from Tampa (#58)?
Shattenkirk (50%)
Howden
Pionk
#49 or #58
for
Trouba -sign and trade
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 5, 2019 at 12:40 p.m.
Thread:
Nashville with Offense
What is your take on Eeli Tolvanen? In other words where do you/Nashville fans seem to value him after one year in the AHL? I rarely see much hype about him anymore after he blew up the year prior.
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Armchair-GM
May 7, 2019 at 11:46 a.m.
Thread:
Devils 2019-2020
As a NYR fan, id love to get a NJD fan’s perspective. How much are people talking about Hughes? What are the chances they take Kakko instead?
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Armchair-GM
May 4, 2019 at 11:16 a.m.
Thread:
Future DYNASTY
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WalterT</b></div><div>Ok that makes sense.
I also think they are srt up well. The key is a couple of players out of Kakko, Kravstov, Chytl, and Miller need to turn out to be big stars. Otherwise, they'll end up like the Lundquist years, with good teams always chasing the big free agent or big rental to put them over the top.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WalterT</b></div><div>Ok that makes sense.
I also think they are srt up well. The key is a couple of players out of Kakko, Kravstov, Chytl, and Miller need to turn out to be big stars. Otherwise, they'll end up like the Lundquist years, with good teams always chasing the big free agent or big rental to put them over the top.</div></div>
Yeah I tried to make it as if FA this year had burned off the first year of their deal. And in terms of Fast, assuming that is an overpay that just helps even more if they get him for less. Kreider is the big question mark for me, will they trade him? They definitely won’t let him walk for free. Can they make a Brassard-Zibanejad like deal for him even though he’s an expiring UFA? Big things coming is all I know
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Armchair-GM
May 1, 2019 at 12:07 p.m.
Thread:
Foxy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Klm751</b></div><div>Strome is already on a retained salary contract which means if he’s traded his salary can’t be retained again</div></div>
1. He is not on retained salary contract, Rangers retained salary on Spooner, Edmonton did not retain salary on Strome.
2. Even if he was on a retained salary contract, he would still be eligible for rangers to retain salary in a trade. A contract is eligible for 2 retained salary transactions.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 2, 2019 at 4:43 p.m.
Thread:
Carlo and Panarin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>Boston declines. Carlo is an elite shutdown d-man that has been missed in the last two playoffs due to injuries. Pionk is a nice PMD, but Boston has enough of those on the roster and in the system. As for the rest, I don't see why Boston would want Vesey. We have ton of young wingers and Vesey as been a disappointment for how he was hyped up. The 2nd is nice, but it would be better if it was the Rangers 2nd</div></div>
My thinking was Vesey is having a good year this year. He'll likely hit 40 points (needs 6 more in 18 games). He's 3 years younger and under contract for another year compared to Marcus Johansson so he would replace him at a lower cap hit (savings of 500k). 2nd round pick is a 2nd round pick. If it was NYR's 2nd, I'd want a 4th in return from Boston. Also, as you can see in this thread from other comments, Carlo is very decisive. Like you say he's an "elite shutdown D" (I wouldn't call him elite by any means) while others say he sucks. I think he's a 2nd pair D-man.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 2, 2019 at 1:20 p.m.
Thread:
Carlo and Panarin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>That’s a no from Boston</div></div>
What's your reasoning?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 2, 2019 at 1:16 p.m.
Thread:
Carlo and Panarin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sagecoll</b></div><div>Zero interest in either trade...</div></div>
From who's perspective? Rangers or teams they are trading with?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 18, 2019 at 12:48 p.m.
Thread:
Sharks interested in Hayes
PLEASE tell me this isn't an actual offer you think would be accepted by the Rangers????
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